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I bought 2 pieces of sapele for building a thunderbird body

and guess what??? its 2 cm from being wide enough for the standard thunderbird shape!!!!!!!


2 centimetres!, the guy said that it was 19cm across whereas it is actually 18

so this means i have to make the body smaller, which isnt really a problem actually
 
kserg said:
Sign of being mature is that you know that you actually know much less then you think you know (Socrates), hence my underlining of "I know a lot" comment.

I know that I am not at that point yet but I think and hope I am getting close. The "disses" that you guys referring to are merely suggestions that "you don't know everything that you think you know" (Socrates). We all have gotten them, I get them to this day, and for most part, they are right.

Man, I said I know something. I didn't say I know EVERYTHING. I know I don't know everything, and I know I've got a lot to learn, but that doesn't make me stupid. This is exactly what I hate. Having to defend my own intellegence, and then having to defend my statments after they are exagerated.
 
morf said:
I'm not insulting you, just telling you you're not getting what im trying to explain to you... May be the words I use or the way you get them, I dont know, but theres nothing insulting in what ive said to you...

I was not talking entirely about myself. I don't care if you think I am ignorant or close minded, in a way we all are. I was talking about the disrespectful comments about other folks on this forum many of whom I have great deal of respect for.
 
Scott Zoltok said:
Hmmm...this is interesting.

The age generalization is a tricky issue. But I think it is there for a reason. There is no question that as a teenager matures, he learns more, and realizes that he didn't know as much as he thought he did. He also realizes that he wasn't right all those times. The old people already know this, and so when they see smart-ass knowitallism from some punk, they remind that person of their age, and point out that in X amount of years when they own things they might think a little different. Of course, young kids are too hot-headed to realize this, and remain confident that they will continue demanding anarchy when they own a house and have a family.

My issue with age generalization is when it is misplaced. I see a lot of young people who present very good, thoughtful points, and the old people write it off as immaturity. "Oh, you just disagree because you're young". Well, maybe that's true on some issues, but not on everything. In fact, you hear many parents talking about how they learn the most from their kids, especially on how to be humble. Doesn't that seem like a contradiction?

Is some punk kid who wants to destroy the system going to change his ways in 20 years? Yeah, almost definitely. And when you see this punk kid running his mouth, there is nothing wrong with pointing out his age and inexperience.

Is some teenager going to change his opinion on the death penalty in 20 years? Probably not, but maybe. Either way, it's a perfectly fine opinion to have on something at just about any age, and because of that old people should just leave age out of it.

Basically, when old people use age as an argument during a debate where it doesn't belong, that's when it gets on my nerves.

This is probably the most intellegent post on this thread. He's right. Some of what teenagers say (I say) will likly be an opinion that will be changed by further maturity in 20 years. A lot of what teenagers say (I say) will be incorrect. But that DOES NOT MAKE ME STUPID!!!!

What I said (and Kserg exagerated) was not even making myself apear better than others, and it wasn't placing myself high and mighty. I was simply stating that within my 14 year old brain, there is intellegence. I am not stupid because I am not past 25 or 30. Yeah, I don't know everything that you know, but I do hope to continue to learn as I grow older.

If you think my opinions are incorrect, well thats OK. If you think that my opinions will change in 5 or 10 or 20 years, OK, your probably right. In fact, I know your right. Thats how human minds work. But give me, and every other teenager on this board the respect that we deserve. We aren't stupid. Some of the teenagers on this board that I have seen are far more mature than most of the adults (and I am not talking about myself here).
 
SnakeAnthony said:
Man, I said I know something. I didn't say I know EVERYTHING. I know I don't know everything, and I know I've got a lot to learn, but that doesn't make me stupid. This is exactly what I hate. Having to defend my own intellegence, and then having to defend my statments after they are exagerated.

I guess I could have been clearer, everyone knows that making sense is my weakness. :)

I never suggested that you were stupid or that you suck. I merely underlined your comments that "you know a lot about... life" and "punch in a face" ones. I didn't even question your knowledge about bass or music, I am sure it’s a very good. However I did suggest that maybe your knowledge about life is less then you think it is. It’s not a put down; it’s something many people realized growing up. Many times I’ve done something in my early years that I thought I knew what I was doing only later to realize that I had no idea. It’s a common mistake, nothing wrong with it, “everyone learns by making mistakes, smart people learn by mistakes made by others”. :)

SnakeAnthony said:
Some of what teenagers say (I say) will likly be an opinion that will be changed by further maturity in 20 years. A lot of what teenagers say (I say) will be incorrect. But that DOES NOT MAKE ME STUPID!!!!

No one suggested anything about being stupid; in-fact I think absolutely opposite.

Cheers dude
 
kserg said:
I guess I could have been clearer, everyone knows that making sense is my weakness. :)

I never suggested that you were stupid or that you suck. I merely underlined your comments that "you know a lot about... life" and "punch in a face" ones. I didn't even question your knowledge about bass or music, I am sure it’s a very good. However I did suggest that maybe your knowledge about life is less then you think it is. It’s not a put down; it’s something many people realized growing up. Many times I’ve done something in my early years that I thought I knew what I was doing only later to realize that I had no idea. It’s a common mistake, nothing wrong with it, “everyone learns by making mistakes, smart people learn by mistakes made by others”. :)



No one suggested anything about being stupid; in-fact I think absolutely opposite.

Cheers dude

Ok. Thats a much clearer idea of what was said:p That makes a lot of sense, and is very correct IMO. I do have a lot to learn, and I'll do lots of stupid things thinking I know whats going on. I've done it quite a few times already. In a sick way I'm kind of looking forward to it...;)

Peace.
 
kserg said:
You’re just jealous because when I play dodgeball no one can take me out as ball that hits me gets stuck in my fat.

Wow, a one man dodgeball domination machine.

Maybe you should play football. I hear that the 49ers need receivers. You not only have a huge target, but it can engulf the football so that the defender won't even see it while you're running with it.

Incredible.