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Completely new to setting up a PA.

#41
bluesdogblues said:
For recording in studio maybe yes. For 'mega supergroup' type of stadium gig perhaps yes.
Perhaps your drummer mistakenly read too much about those two topics and is a dreamer.
Start simple and you'd be good.
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Exactly what I keep telling him, I don't know how he spends so much money... He's buying a new kit that he can drag around to gigs and goes through skins within a few weeks.
 
#42
Just tell him he's more than welcome to haul the rig to the gig 3 hours early to set up and dial in all that crap, only for you to summarily yank his submix feed out of the mains and let the vocal mic bleed take care of his drums. Then he can stay an hour later than everyone else tearing it all down and packing it up....all for the exact same pay and not a penny more. :D


Seriously, it seems like it might take him actually doing all that once to realize how rediculous it all is.

You can do all you need to do with 8 channels...for the entire band.
 
#44
will33 said:
Just tell him he's more than welcome to haul the rig to the gig 3 hours early to set up and dial in all that crap, only for you to summarily yank his submix feed out of the mains and let the vocal mic bleed take care of his drums. Then he can stay an hour later than everyone else tearing it all down and packing it up....all for the exact same pay and not a penny more. :D


Seriously, it seems like it might take him actually doing all that once to realize how rediculous it all is.

You can do all you need to do with 8 channels...for the entire band.
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Don't even get me started on what he thinks we should do with the money from gigs... He thought of the great idea that we should pay him to use his studio when it's built to buy gear for the band. I completely agree, I think he will quickly realise his mistake but it still means we have to deal with it. Haha I'm going to tell him 8 channels and he will think I'm just talking about his kit, he's in for a rude awakening.
 
#47
buldog5151bass said:
Your drummer is a piece of work - I can think of another phrase, but there may be mods lurking. I have been playing in bands for 35 years, and I have NEVER paid a band member to play at their place. Most I have ever done is bought pizza.
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The problem is I'm way too passive, I don't want to be too forward or it may come off as I'm trying to boss everyone around. I started the group and organise pretty much everything so maybe I should start being more blunt.
 
#49
This guy better be like the greatest drummer in the whole world...and have a hot, single, willing sister to be putting up with all this mess. :)

He just plain doesn't realize how impractical & overkill it is for smaller gigs. All this stuff he's insisting on he probably just read somewhere and has probably never applied it out in the real world.
 
#50
KingKrabb said:
Tell him he doesn't need that many mics. And unless he's playing at Pompeii, he probably never will.

Did I read correctly? Top-snare/bottom-snare mics AND a side snare? Sheesh, man.

If it's just small gigs for now, you just need vocals, MAYBE guitars; there's the potential for you to need a DI. That's it. Drummer needs 4 max. Snare, Kick, two overheads.
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Don't forget about the dedicated mic and channel for the cowbell....gotta have that.
 
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#51
Rehearsal space is sacred, I can see ponying up a little for a good space. That usually means beer.... On Saturday, the police showed up from complaints, so we might need to figure out a new space.
Back to the drummer, he's nuts! He's going to drag you down. Three mic's for a snare?
Get back to the music! There's too much dreaming going on. All of you need to get some gigs under your belts before setting up your colosseum rigs. And hopefully, not very probable though, you'll get some decent sound guys to make you sound good. Too much gear buying going on.. I would make that the selling point, basics first. Songs first, gigs second, then use income from gigs to fund studio, not before. And a new set of heads for every gig is not going to happen. The gig money won't even cover that.
We have a old Japanese drum kit in our practice space. Some of the heads are over twenty years old. The snare heads were replaced two years ago. Rattles, held together with a lot of bailing wire. They were given to us. A friend who was a drum tech came by and tuned the heads and did a lot of adjustment. We've had three drummers come by, and every one couldn't believe how good they sounded. But, they really liked not having to bring their own drums!
 
#53
RyanHutchison9 said:
The problem is I'm way too passive, I don't want to be too forward or it may come off as I'm trying to boss everyone around. I started the group and organise pretty much everything so maybe I should start being more blunt.
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Telling the realistic truth doesn't have to be 'active' nor 'too forward' nor 'come off as trying to boss everyone around' nor 'blunt'.
 
#54
will33 said:
This guy better be like the greatest drummer in the whole world...and have a hot, single, willing sister to be putting up with all this mess. :)

He just plain doesn't realize how impractical & overkill it is for smaller gigs. All this stuff he's insisting on he probably just read somewhere and has probably never applied it out in the real world.
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He really is an amazing drummer, his biggest influence is Travis Barker and even if you're into that he's got the skills to back it up. He's a really nice guy too but he's just a little bit too forceful with his ideas sometimes, the project has only been together for around 3 months at this point and he has only been with us for a month so we'll see how things go.
 

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