davidmwilson said:
i went to blockbuster (as i have a free rental coupon).
they didn't have it.
you can imagine how silly i felt asking for a movie called "24 hour party people."
the girl thought i said, "24 party people."
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could it be that joy division...isn't any good?
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i went to blockbuster (as i have a free rental coupon).
they didn't have it.
you can imagine how silly i felt asking for a movie called "24 hour party people."
the girl thought i said, "24 party people."
davidmwilson said:
I enjoyed that movie, it felt a little unfocused, and it packs a long time into what seems like a short period of time. But I feel that I got a sense of what the energy and scene was like at that time.
The guy who plays Tony Wilson is really good, as well.
Bizzarely - Joy Division's "Love will tear us apart" is the only decent song in a BBC (UK) poll/vote to find the best song of the last 25 years!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/soldonsong/whatson/britshomepage.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/soldonsong/whatson/britshomepage.shtml
I have been a huge Joy Division fan (along with the Cure and the Smiths) for many years.
There is something about the feeling that was put into their music that I have yet to see duplicated by any other band.
There is something about the feeling that was put into their music that I have yet to see duplicated by any other band.
Against Will said:
=Steve Coogan, the creator of Alan Partridge (who performed airbass to Gary Numan's "music for chameleons" at the end of an episode of I'm Alan Partridge), Tony Ferrino, Paul/Pauline Calf, Gareth Cheeseman etc.......
brilliant comedy actor
his brother Martin Coogan fronted the Mock Turtles.
I can't stand the real Tony Wilson though- his repeated mythologising of the whole Factory scene really gets on my nerves.
ps. anyone else heard the new, er, New Order single?
sounds very samey- just like Loveless...and about 10 other NO and Monaco singles...
Hooky's become a self-parody.
sounds very samey- just like Loveless...and about 10 other NO and Monaco singles...
Hooky's become a self-parody.
this thread is about a year old!
anyway, turns out my dad has the album "closer."
listened to it... still don't like joy division. i really, really, really wanted to like'em. i can even stand the original version of "love will tear us apart" now.
but... nope, there's just no way i'm liking'em.
if, like, interpol or the cure or new order or someone covered the entire joy division catalog and released that, i'd be interested in that, though.
anyway, turns out my dad has the album "closer."
listened to it... still don't like joy division. i really, really, really wanted to like'em. i can even stand the original version of "love will tear us apart" now.
but... nope, there's just no way i'm liking'em.
if, like, interpol or the cure or new order or someone covered the entire joy division catalog and released that, i'd be interested in that, though.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm usually very open to bad vocalists if the music is good... but I have 90% of the Joy Divison I've heard.
She's lost control is bad ass...
She's lost control is bad ass...
Brad Barker said:i think you are missing a critical verb in that first sentence, there.
WHOA! How did that happen... lets try this again:
Take II
If it makes you feel any better, I'm usually very open to bad vocalists if the music is good... but I hate 90% of the Joy Divison I've heard.
She's lost control is... well it's alright...
Joy division and new order are amazing because of the guitar imo. At the time no one else played that way.
You've clearly never slept three hours in a workweek because you just couldn't sleep.
But I get you, they're not exactly well produced and the vocals aren't heavy on technique either - but sometimes that's what you need. Not everybody gets it, but not everybody has to.
But I get you, they're not exactly well produced and the vocals aren't heavy on technique either - but sometimes that's what you need. Not everybody gets it, but not everybody has to.
Joy Division are one of my favourite bands of all time, perhaps mostly from sentimental reasons as I've liked them since my pre-teens. However, they were never good musicians or technically talented (just because I love them doesn't mean that I imbue them with talent that they clearly never had. It's human nature to see something as better than they are if they like them, but I prefer to be objective).
I still listen to them now and love the atmosphere, the vague lyrics, the clear bass sound, the simplicity of their style, the mystery....
In my opinion, the main strength of JD were in the emotion that was in his lyrics/singing and in the production by Martin Hannett. In terms of talent, as mentioned, they were just an average post-punk indie band at the time.
If I heard them now as a new band I probably wouldn't given them a second listen, and not just because I rarely listen to rock/pop these days.
You either like them a lot or you don't (they're very polarising).
I still listen to them now and love the atmosphere, the vague lyrics, the clear bass sound, the simplicity of their style, the mystery....
In my opinion, the main strength of JD were in the emotion that was in his lyrics/singing and in the production by Martin Hannett. In terms of talent, as mentioned, they were just an average post-punk indie band at the time.
If I heard them now as a new band I probably wouldn't given them a second listen, and not just because I rarely listen to rock/pop these days.
You either like them a lot or you don't (they're very polarising).
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I liked Joy Division instantly, and I was a metalhead when I first heard them 30 years ago. I still love them, although I've heard it so much that I can't listen to them more than once a year, anymore.
To that I would add, just pick up Movement and Power Corruption and Lies, maybe Substance for the singles(gotta have "Blue Monday", right?), because after that, they just kept putting out the same album, over and over and over and over....
