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Counterfeit ric 4003
- Thread starter Muchdoge
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I LOVE the Lanzi so much, I've come close to picking one up a few times. He makes some very cool basses, well worth checking out. That said, definitely not a counterfeit Ric by any stretch of the imagination, this is a cool unique design all on its own.
So out of 100% non snarky curiosity, how come fake ricks take so much more flack than p bass knockoffs?
A nice modern take on it.
I hope it really drives the people at Rickenbacker right up the wall.
Too bad we don't see these hanging up in music stores when we go shopping for a bass.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
My bad man. That makes sense.Because Ps are legal, Rics are not. This has been debated to death.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
No problemo.
Early on, Fender chose not to protect his designs - why we can only guess. Therefore, the basic shape for Ps, Js, Strats and Teles are fair game (but not headstock shapes, which ARE protected, and therefore, Lull and other copies have different shapes).
Ric, on the other hand, has always guarded its intellectual property. That's why the only Ric copies in this country are overseas cosmetic counterfeits, and are illegal. Some people complain that Ric "should" allow overseas cheaper versions of his product - that it is "unfair" that he doesn't. But that is entirely his choice.
Early on, Fender chose not to protect his designs - why we can only guess. Therefore, the basic shape for Ps, Js, Strats and Teles are fair game (but not headstock shapes, which ARE protected, and therefore, Lull and other copies have different shapes).
Ric, on the other hand, has always guarded its intellectual property. That's why the only Ric copies in this country are overseas cosmetic counterfeits, and are illegal. Some people complain that Ric "should" allow overseas cheaper versions of his product - that it is "unfair" that he doesn't. But that is entirely his choice.
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Does anybody actually know of this happening? Or is it just one of those rumors? There are people here who have bought the Chinese fake Ricks and actually got it delivered no problem.
Had an Ibanez Ric, sold it to buy food.
When I was able to buy a real Ric-dream come true-I just couldn't get on with it.
Fast forward 25 years and I was thinking.....Buy a ratty old Ric and carve out the body so it will be more comfortable, put a proper bridge on, sounds like a plan.
Came across some dudes making Ric copies in Europe. Decent price, look good, I'll take a punt.
Dream bass. Looks cool, sounds like I want to sound, the best thing though: Really comfortable to play.
The kicker is that although it kind of looks like a Ric, neither the bass nor myself are fooling anyone. It is not a Ric. It's just a really cool sounding/looking bass.
And I got another one in a different colour.
My Steinberger and Geddy are on the way out. I have the perfect bass.
When I was able to buy a real Ric-dream come true-I just couldn't get on with it.
Fast forward 25 years and I was thinking.....Buy a ratty old Ric and carve out the body so it will be more comfortable, put a proper bridge on, sounds like a plan.
Came across some dudes making Ric copies in Europe. Decent price, look good, I'll take a punt.
Dream bass. Looks cool, sounds like I want to sound, the best thing though: Really comfortable to play.
The kicker is that although it kind of looks like a Ric, neither the bass nor myself are fooling anyone. It is not a Ric. It's just a really cool sounding/looking bass.
And I got another one in a different colour.
My Steinberger and Geddy are on the way out. I have the perfect bass.
Nope, no trouble getting a hold of them unless you are getting a suspicious amount shipped to you. Also most sellers are willing to remove any branding from the bass / install custom branding.
I wont critique their business approach, and I appreciate guarding the iconic look that is such a huge part of their appeal. On the inside though, I hope Mr. Rickenbacker has himself a smug little flattered moment when they have to pay the copyright lawyers, I sure would!
I wonder how many people here think it's ok to download illegal copies of music or movies?
I'm not condoning it but it's totally understandable that someone would want an counterfeit Ric when the real ones are priced out of most people's reach.
Music on the other hand is about a buck a song. Movies are similarly inexpensive.
Muchdoge - you could always go this route...
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I believe its been thoroughly debated to death on this forum and the conclusion was it was perfectly legal. Just don't plan on putting the word Rickenbacker on it anywhere.
And for the record, I am in the "never buy, sell or own a counterfeit instrument under any circumstances" camp. The only reason I would consider one of the pit bull kits is because they've been vetted and found not to be in violation of any laws.
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I believe its been thoroughly debated to death on this forum and the conclusion was it was perfectly legal. Just don't plan on putting the word Rickenbacker on it anywhere.
And for the record, I am in the "never buy, sell or own a counterfeit instrument under any circumstances" camp. The only reason I would consider one of the pit bull kits is because they've been vetted and found not to be in violation of any laws.
