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Custom Rutherford Double Neck Build

#22
louloomis said:
To the original poster:

Congratulations on the instrument. Beautiful on many levels.

I also commend you VERY highly for undertaking this project for ALL the right reasons.

I, too, believe in vintage purity....but only on a specific case-by-case basis, which includes the wonderful world of exceptional scenarios such as this. So, in my snobbish opinion: you did the right thing 100%. No one can argue at all with what you did on this project.

Why?

Anyone who knows anything about Rutherford knows that he had many custom and customized guitars over the years (including doublenecks) including some very unique and unusual instrument choices. Some of these were groundbreaking, as we know. He himself really viewed instruments as tools to achieve his end: to make music.

I commend you for taking the same view in this case. Noble, nicely done and thanks for sharing this very personal and meaningful instrument with us. Great to see.

And, as a Genesis fan, all I can say is: "I LOVE IT!"
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Thank you for understanding my reasoning....if the Rickenbacker 4080 would have fit my needs I surely would've bought one...it would've been a hell of a lot easier. I am with you on your views on vintage instruments...I share those views and from a collecting stand point things should be left in their original glory. For players that require specifications that weren't made publicly available....great craftsman like Larry make it possible for us to own what we need at a reasonable price.
Thank you for your post!
 
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#23
Looks wonderful, seems to have been a brilliantly successful build. Hope it sounds fantastic. And that fused LP-Ric is wild and kind of brilliant - thanks for sharing the pic of that (and the Shergold too).

Regarding the misleading headstock logo plates - since it's just for you, and so long as you don't sell it, I can't argue the ethics of it. But no matter how much I might want a real name-brand custom bass, if it isn't really one, I think I'd be too embarrassed to put the name of a company on it that didn't actually build it. Even if no one else ever saw the instrument, I don't think I could live it down just in my own head. Half the instrument is a real, if heavily modified, Ric, but the other half isn't. If it were me, I think I'd put something else on the 12-string's headstock. But, of course, it's not me.

That said, I understand the part about how ridiculously hard it is to get the "real thing" as you want it. Prices are outrageous, options limited, and nothing's cooler than the 12/4 combination. Hope this proves to be a long-term faithful friend for you.
 
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#25
mdogs said:
I'm sorry, but putting that Rickenbacher plate on the headstock of the guitar is just wrong. I read your post, I know you said you don't care...a lot of the rest of us do care, it's wrong.
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Ya ... pretty quick the Rickenbacker cult members have to chime in and find something wrong ...

You know I think Pete Townsend had the right idea ... smash the Rickenbackers ...
 
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I designed this a few years ago ...

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Then I found out that Rickenbacker built this

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mdogs said:
I'm sorry, but putting that Rickenbacher plate on the headstock of the guitar is just wrong. I read your post, I know you said you don't care...a lot of the rest of us do care, it's wrong.
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You need to get out of the house more.......or less........or something.
Its not my thing, Im not really into doubles, but it looks like a sweet job and nice work to me, I dont care what badge he put on it, and its made from a ric anyway.
 
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Ric5 said:
Someday I am going to make one like this ...

It will drive the Rickenbacker purists out of the minds ...

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Hey Walfretless5

Brilliant, brilliant job on the doubleneck! It's killer, nice work all the way around, and may you have many many hours of enjoyment with that beauty!

Hey Ric5

Here ya go: http://www.talkbass.com/threads/rickenbacker-4005-copy.283322/page-6

The real fun starts on page 6.

I will probably build one too at some point. They won't make one for me in medium scale, so as always, I will have to have it built for me.

Rough sketches - with ebony wood pickguard:

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Without:

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Also considering the basics some day - maybe with a carved top:

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#38
BassHappy said:
Hey Walfretless5

Brilliant, brilliant job on the doubleneck! It's killer, nice work all the way around, and may you have many many hours of enjoyment with that beauty!

Hey Ric5

Here ya go: http://www.talkbass.com/threads/rickenbacker-4005-copy.283322/page-6

The real fun starts on page 6.

I will probably build one too at some point. They won't make one for me in medium scale, so as always, I will have to have it built for me.

Rough sketches - with ebony wood pickguard:

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Without:

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Also considering the basics some day - maybe with a carved top:

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Thanks for your kind wishes BassHappy and thanks for posting the other build thread, it's always interesting to see examples of the great work going on out there.
 
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#39
Walfretless5 said:
Thanks for your kind wishes BassHappy and thanks for posting the other build thread, it's always interesting to see examples of the great work going on out there.
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Thanks WalFretless5!

Not trying to derail the thread, hopefully this is just a one or two post diversion....

You may be interested to know, one of my BEST friends in the world who I grew up with in Indiana is Dale Newman. Dale started with Yes for a week or two on their first US tour handling Steve Howe's guitars. When Genesis hit the shores for their first US tour Rutherford called him and said - "I have a gazillion guitars on this tour - Steve told me you could keep 'em in tune - if you can - you have a job!!!"

Well, Dale passed the test, as he is a very accomplished player himself and a very long story short - he just retired in December of 2013 from the Genesis organization. He was hired full time and lived at their studio "The Farm" in Chiddingfold all these years - and looked over the property as well as handling all of Mike's tech duties. I visited him there a couple of times and had a great time. He also helped with the logistics of running the studio for them when they were off the road, and he handled Mike's gear exclusively on every Genesis tour.

Since retirement - he has moved to Scotland for a while to be with his daughter.
 
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BassHappy said:
Thanks WalFretless5!

Not trying to derail the thread, hopefully this is just a one or two post diversion....

You may be interested to know, one of my BEST friends in the world who I grew up with in Indiana is Dale Newman. Dale started with Yes for a week or two on their first US tour handling Steve Howe's guitars. When Genesis hit the shores for their first US tour Rutherford called him and said - "I have a gazillion guitars on this tour - Steve told me you could keep 'em in tune - if you can - you have a job!!!"

Well, Dale passed the test, as he is a very accomplished player himself and a very long story short - he just retired in December of 2013 from the Genesis organization. He was hired full time and lived at their studio "The Farm" in Chiddingfold all these years - and looked over the property as well as handling all of Mike's tech duties. I visited him there a couple of times and had a great time. He also helped with the logistics of running the studio for them when they were on the road, and he handled Mike's gear exclusively on every Genesis tour.

Since retirement - he has moved to Scotland for a while to be with his daughter.
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I appreciate the post and do not consider it a derailment..I started the thread obviously to show off the wonderful work of the luthier that brought my dream to reality , but also to exchange ideas and to see other builds posted is what I would encourage....it is of great interest to all of us except for a certain few who may not approve and cause the thread to have the undesirable overtone that I said I would ignore. Thankfully everyone has been really cool and I hope it continues because I'd love to see the thread stay open so I can post the project from start to finish as I have the time.

Cool story about your friend , he must be quite an interesting fellow to know.
 

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