Even though I come from a family with a proud US Navy bent, I was sickened by seeing pics of gawking tourist divers around the remains of the enemy's sailors.
Those should be off limits as war graves.
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D-Day, June 6, 1944
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Even though I come from a family with a proud US Navy bent, I was sickened by seeing pics of gawking tourist divers around the remains of the enemy's sailors.
Those should be off limits as war graves.
In 1984 (40th anniversary) I jumped onto the British Airborne DZ at Ranville. Toured all the battlefields and was treated as a hero although only 20 at the time. Was and still am completely in awe of the vets.
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I don't think anyone who was not there can imagine what it was like when the ramps dropped on the landing craft. The men who established that beachhead were cut from a cloth that no longer exists. Somehow, I can't see the late teen's and 20 somethings I see at "occupy" protests and such being able to do what these men did. Ever.
To the heroes of D-Day and WWII, I salute you and thank you, and I'll use a word I normally disdain, but it is appropriate for you: You are truly awesome in every sense of the word.
To the heroes of D-Day and WWII, I salute you and thank you, and I'll use a word I normally disdain, but it is appropriate for you: You are truly awesome in every sense of the word.
I think this speaks from that generation to all of the future generations...
Edit: I can't seem to edit this from my iPad. Mods. Please delete if it's offensive.
Edit: I can't seem to edit this from my iPad. Mods. Please delete if it's offensive.
Better edit that before mods see that... just got warned the other day in the funny pic thread with that same word in it.
Especially the Red Army...who did the bulk of the fighting... and dying (est. 10-14 000 000)
At kristallnacht in 1938,the true colours of the regime were nailed to the mast for all to see. More's the pity that no real opposition was fomented in Germany until the tide of war had started to turn in 1942/43.
How many of those deaths were at the hands of the Nazis, how many were at the hands of the Red Army itself
Well....It's all the more tragic and poignant that they were treated as cannon fodder by their own regime. The fact is though, that it was the Red Army who ground the Nazis into the dust, which I think you'll agree was the most important thing....
Yes, the red army. They did the actual invading. Unless it was the chartreuse army. I'm always getting them mixed up.
Yes of course the the Red Army did the actual invading, but Stalin made the deal with Hitler. Stalin split Poland with Hitler...the Red army didn't, which is what you had stated in your original message.
And we gave Western Europe back to the people and for the most part went back home whereas Stalin....that said, the Russian population suffered terribly during the war and both armies fought heroically against the Nazi's
Ps: the US was also involved in a brutal war against Japan at the same time...
Lest We Forget...
Ps: the US was also involved in a brutal war against Japan at the same time...
Lest We Forget...
Actually, I said they had no problem with splitting. Stalin couldn't have split a sandwich with Hitler without the red army. They were active participants in the subjugation of Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Finland and eventually Romania, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and probably a few others I can't spell.
Did the two front war lead to the demise of the Nazis? Sure. Was there a two front war before Hitler broke the pact with Stalin? No. They were in cahoots.
The thread is about D-Day. If you want to aggrandize the red army maybe you should start your own thread.
To say they were in cahoots is a simplistic view isn't it ? I mean, Hitler hated Stalin and he manipulated him into signing the pact (by proxy of course). He was one step ahead so he could invade Western Europe without having to worry about the Soviets: To a lesser extent, Stalin bought some time by signing the pact as doing so clearly appealed to his sensibilities as a means of avoiding a war with Germany,which, by that time, he had come to realise was almost certain.
Any way, I'm gonna bow out. I was attempting to add a further layer to the discussion i.e. to remember ALL those who died stopping the Nazi scourge. My intent was not to aggrandize the Red Army, merely to suggest the cost that was paid in blood by both sides, i.e. Allies and Soviets. I sense now though, that it hasn't been appreciated. My apologies if I've offended anyone.
Please excuse me while I shed a tear for poor, manipulated Stalin and the red army. One scourge replaced by another. Bow out, apologize, whatever. I really don't give a flying ^&#$.
Hitler's disastrous foray to Stalingrad did much of the damage years earlier.
Cold war's over, folks. Remember: all the people who died in the war were still people, regardless of what country they happened to be born in.
