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D Standard Club (DGCF)

Hi all!

Back to music after a tumultuous couple years of life, including a big move halfway across the country!

About a year ago, the daughter of a friend expressed interest in learning bass. So, I retooled my basses and my brain to standard tuning because I didn't want a brand new player to have to deal with the little frictions that come with learning music and the instrument (as well as being in one's first band) in an alternate tuning.

Fast forward to a month ago. Lessons commence. Over the summer, my student and her brother and her dad when to a Ghost concert. She is now 100% loving that band. This is fun for me on multiple fronts: their catalog includes and nice progression of song complexities to learn and for me to hang learning musical concepts on as we go.

Ghost also plays almost exclusively in D-standard! So this left the paths forward at five string, four string in drop-D or four string in D-standard. I nixed the middle option because I don't want to disrupt the tuning symmetry of the instrument for a new learner. So the question put to my student was... four string or five? After some time spent with a five string, and a four string of mine, my student has definitively stated that she wants to settle on a four string in D-standard!

The 34" scale on my MTD Kingston CRB was a bit of a stretch for her, so after a trip to the local GC and some talking with me and her dad (a guitar player) she's now the proud owner of a used Squier Affinity Jaguar H, which is a 32" scale bass. And dang, for the price, I've got to say, it's nice. As someone who started playing last century (hah), budget instruments are AMAZING these days.

Long story short: I'm back to D-standard, and will be teaching in D-standard.

And this leaves me with a sadness and a conundrum:
  • Apparantly in my absence Stringjoy stopped selling bass singles and custom sets? I was so so happy making a D to A#/Bb set for my fiver.

  • Most importantly, (and yes, I am going to mine this thread for people's thoughts) the search is on for strings appropriate for D-standard on a 32" scale bass for my student. Her used Squier came with a set of neon green DRs on it, so we're going to start out sussing out how they act in D-standard.
 
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Hi all!

Back to music after a tumultuous couple years of life, including a big move halfway across the country!

About a year ago, the daughter of a friend expressed interest in learning bass. So, I retooled my basses and my brain to standard tuning because I didn't want a brand new player to have to deal with the little frictions that come with learning music and the instrument (as well as being in one's first band) in an alternate tuning.

Fast forward to a month ago. Lessons commence. Over the summer, my student and her brother and her dad when to a Ghost concert. She is now 100% loving that band. This is fun for me on multiple fronts: their catalog includes and nice progression of song complexities to learn and for me to hang learning musical concepts on as we go.

Ghost also plays almost exclusively in D-standard! So this left the paths forward at five string, four string in drop-D or four string in D-standard. I nixed the middle option because I don't want to disrupt the tuning symmetry of the instrument for a new learner. So the question put to my student was... four string or five? After some time spent with a five string, and a four string of mine, my student has definitively stated that she wants to settle on a four string in D-standard!

The 34" scale on my MTD Kingston CRB was a bit of a stretch for her, so after a trip to the local GC and some talking with me and her dad (a guitar player) she's now the proud owner of a used Squier Affinity Jaguar H, which is a 32" scale bass. And dang, for the price, I've got to say, it's nice. As someone who started playing last century (hah), budget instruments are AMAZING these days.

Long story short: I'm back to D-standard, and will be teaching in D-standard.

And this leaves me with a sadness and a conundrum:
  • Apparantly in my absence Stringjoy stopped selling bass singles and custom sets? I was so so happy making a D to A#/Bb set for my fiver.

  • Most importantly, (and yes, I am going to mine this thread for people's thoughts) the search is on for strings appropriate for D-standard on a 32" scale bass for my student. Her used Squier came with a set of neon green DRs on it, so we're going to start out sussing out how they act in D-standard.
Awesome! I can't find EBCFs in medium scale or I'd recommend those. I'm not sure how 34" scale would work, and have read the short scales are too short. I have EBCFs in D standard on 5 of my basses (the 6th is BEAD). EBCFs work great for this. Best of luck in your string pursuit! Are you all settled in in DFW?
 
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Awesome! I can't find EBCFs in medium scale or I'd recommend those. I'm not sure how 34" scale would work, and have read the short scales are too short. I have EBCFs in D standard on 5 of my basses (the 6th is BEAD). EBCFs work great for this. Best of luck in your string pursuit! Are you all settled in in DFW?

I need to update my profile! I lived in the DFW area for 20 years but now I'm in Illinois!
 
Update - It's been 4 months since I put Rotosound 77s on my P Bass. I realized this week that my strings never mellowed out. They died instead. The highs and lows are gone and all that's left are hollow mids. I'm disappointed about this change in tone over 4 months. I didn't think flats would sound worse over time, but the 77s somehow do. :(

I'm thinking about replacing them with either D'Addario Chromes or NYXLs (depending on if I want flats or rounds). I have those strings on my other two basses and they are some of the best I have ever played.
I had an extra set of 50-105 gauge D'Addario regular XLs. So I decided to put them on my bass to save some money. I prefer the NYXLs for rounds, but the regular XLs are the second best rounds I have ever played.
 
Hi all!

Back to music after a tumultuous couple years of life, including a big move halfway across the country!

About a year ago, the daughter of a friend expressed interest in learning bass. So, I retooled my basses and my brain to standard tuning because I didn't want a brand new player to have to deal with the little frictions that come with learning music and the instrument (as well as being in one's first band) in an alternate tuning.

Fast forward to a month ago. Lessons commence. Over the summer, my student and her brother and her dad when to a Ghost concert. She is now 100% loving that band. This is fun for me on multiple fronts: their catalog includes and nice progression of song complexities to learn and for me to hang learning musical concepts on as we go.

Ghost also plays almost exclusively in D-standard! So this left the paths forward at five string, four string in drop-D or four string in D-standard. I nixed the middle option because I don't want to disrupt the tuning symmetry of the instrument for a new learner. So the question put to my student was... four string or five? After some time spent with a five string, and a four string of mine, my student has definitively stated that she wants to settle on a four string in D-standard!

The 34" scale on my MTD Kingston CRB was a bit of a stretch for her, so after a trip to the local GC and some talking with me and her dad (a guitar player) she's now the proud owner of a used Squier Affinity Jaguar H, which is a 32" scale bass. And dang, for the price, I've got to say, it's nice. As someone who started playing last century (hah), budget instruments are AMAZING these days.

Long story short: I'm back to D-standard, and will be teaching in D-standard.

And this leaves me with a sadness and a conundrum:
  • Apparantly in my absence Stringjoy stopped selling bass singles and custom sets? I was so so happy making a D to A#/Bb set for my fiver.

  • Most importantly, (and yes, I am going to mine this thread for people's thoughts) the search is on for strings appropriate for D-standard on a 32" scale bass for my student. Her used Squier came with a set of neon green DRs on it, so we're going to start out sussing out how they act in D-standard.
First of all, welcome back to TB and the world of bass. Second, nothing warms my heart more than reading about a new bassist wanting to play in D Standard. Your student is always welcome here if she gets her own TB account!

I recommend heavy gauge (55-110) D'Addario NYXLs for D Standard for your student. I have this set on one of my Rickenbacker 4003s, which is a 33.25" scale bass. They are the best rounds I have ever played. You can also try the regular XLs in the same gauge. Those are not bad strings either. If she prefers lighter tension, you can try medium gauge (50-105) NYXLs or XLs.
 
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I recommend heavy gauge (55-110) D'Addario NYXLs for D Standard for your student. I have this set on one of my Rickenbacker 4003s, which is a 33.25" scale bass. They are the best rounds I have ever played.

Thanks for the tip!

As far as I can tell on the Daddario site, they don't offer the NYXLs for medium scale length basses. Have you been using standard long-scale NYXLs and if so, have you had any issues with the untapered part of the E string wrapping around the tuner?
 
Thanks for the tip!

As far as I can tell on the Daddario site, they don't offer the NYXLs for medium scale length basses. Have you been using standard long-scale NYXLs and if so, have you had any issues with the untapered part of the E string wrapping around the tuner?
Yes and I've had no issues with that. The untapered part ends an inch or two before the tuner on my Rickenbacker 4003. You should be OK with a 32" scale bass. But I would measure the string itself and the length from the bridge to the low D string tuner to be sure before putting stringing up.
 
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Has anyone here tried to tune a bass back to standard tuning only to hate it and return to D Standard after a short time?

I did that tonight with one of my basses. I wanted to see what playing a certain song (that was in E) felt like in standard tuning. I tuned up and it felt weird - like I was missing notes and low end. I was looking for the open D1 and G1 strings as well as the low D.

After two years, I have become so used to D Standard that I would rather ride root notes on the second fret of the D string for songs in E than play them in standard tuning. I didn't think to put my capo on the second fret my bass until just now.

I even tried Eb Standard on one of my basses for a little while, but that felt closer to standard tuning than D Standard. So I tuned back down to where I'm comfortable.
 
Has anyone here tried to tune a bass back to standard tuning only to hate it and return to D Standard after a short time?

I did that tonight with one of my basses. I wanted to see what playing a certain song (that was in E) felt like in standard tuning. I tuned up and it felt weird - like I was missing notes and low end. I was looking for the open D1 and G1 strings as well as the low D.

After two years, I have become so used to D Standard that I would rather ride root notes on the second fret of the D string for songs in E than play them in standard tuning. I didn't think to put my capo on the second fret my bass until just now.

I even tried Eb Standard on one of my basses for a little while, but that felt closer to standard tuning than D Standard. So I tuned back down to where I'm comfortable.
I just use D because it’s practical for the music I play. I’ve no reason to tune up, but do occasionally tune to Db or even C for songs needing something lower, though that’s pushing it with standard strings. Usually past Db I grab my BEAD. No real issues switching.
 
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Considering Fender flats. Does anyone have any insight regarding Fender 9050L (45-100) in D Standard? I currently have Rotosound RS66 45-105 on it (D Standard) and I'm pretty happy with the tension, but I've kind of got the itch for flats.
I do use the Fender 9050L but in EADG.

One set of flats I've tried for DGCF are the SIT Power Flats 45-65-85-105, and they did work quite well in that tuning.
 
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A few years ago, I had Rotosound 55s that were 40-100 gauge (according to my bass tech's calipers). They were too loose for D Standard. I would recommend something heavier gauge.
The neck on this bass has a case of terminal G&Litis, this the heaviest it'll take.

The published figures say that Roto 40-100 in D Standard will be about the same as their 35-95 in E, which I get on fine with, so it's reasonable to hope.
 
I understand. I hope that it works out for you and your bass. What kind of G&L is it?
It was a SB-1, but I really didn't like the combination of the lightweight strings I'm obliged to use with the lightweight fingers I can't change either going through the MFD pickup. (I used to love 50-110 Roto nickel rounds plus the split MFD back when that was a possibility)

I've had the MFD removed and a noiseless Fralin J pickup put in the trad J neck spot. Completely different bass now, more like a gentle version of an early-50s P. I'll be letting the set of Swing Bass get old.
 
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A few years ago, I had Rotosound 55s that were 40-100 gauge (according to my bass tech's calipers). They were too loose for D Standard. I would recommend something heavier gauge.
Just put them on. I knew that if one of the strings would be a problem, if would be the 100. And indeed the 100 was spoiling things. In terms of feel, it was not great; tonally it was very flubby.

Fortunately, I have a spare 110 Swing Bass, so I've popped that on. Perceived-tension-wise it's fitting in fine with the 40-60-80. Tonally, it has a commanding presence that the others don't. However, it's almost as new as them, so I have faith in it mellowing out a bit over time. And anyway, better that than flub.

Total tension this 40-60-80-110 in DGCF is only 2 or 3 pounds more than the 35-55-75-95 in EADG, so that shouldn't be a problem.
 
I've also another G&L that is the opposite: with a very low action and high tension strings, it's very easy to play. Tuned EADG it wears either 50-110 Rotosounds or 45-105 Chromes.

If I wanted to downtune this one to D Standard as well, what gauge Rotos would I want? If I used the 60-75-95-125 from a 5-string set tuned DGCF the total tension would be about the same as my 50-110 Rotos tuned EADG.

The actual tension of that 125 string tuned to D would be exactly the same as my 110 tuned to E .... but in reality, what would it feel and sound like, in comparison?