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damn bills.

I'm not going to get into the relationship stuff - that's your business and you weren't asking for people's opinion about that.

However, speaking as someone who's screwed up the money thing a couple of times in the past, I strongly recommend you read everything here. It'll take a few evenings, and you should grab a pencil and paper to take notes wherever you see something that applies to you.

Good luck with the bills, with the degree, and with your wife-to-be.
 
apparantly you haven't been in my house because we only have 1 laptop. no game system. no cable. a cheap stereo, no washer, no dryer, a single window unit ac, and my pitiful 15watt amp.

of coarse we live on a well so our water pump is electric... oh and i forgot to mention living out in the middle of nowhere tends to only allow us one possible electric company. So I'll give you another shot as to why the light bill is so high.

All I can say is your power company has you bent over.
There HAS to be something else going on.

I average about $50/mo and that is with a saltwater Reef Aquarium (and those suck up a TON of juice)
 
If you have any money left, grab yourself an ice cold Coke and sit down. Catch your breath! You sound pissed!

What "refund" are you talking about? You said you and your mom got "refunds" that you have to pay back? Are you talking about your annual tax refunds? You don't have to pay those back; they're not loans. Tax refunds are like Unemployment benefits. They are not loans, they are money that you already paid to the gov't and are now getting back for your use. A payment that you receive from a loan or a scholarship is not a "refund" check. Now if you are trying to say that you paid for school up front and then you were reimbursed by the loans or scholarships, still--that's not the same as using taxpayer money for personal gain. Is that what you're saying? For example, you paid $1,500 to the school out of pocket while you were waiting for the loan to come through; then the loan sent you a check for $1,500 to reimburse your school costs. Is that what you're saying? If so, you still spent that $1,500 on school so it's legit.

Everybody's troubles are a little different. If you used your tax refund to buy instruments then you DIDN'T use "tax payer money"--you used YOUR money. If you got a subsidized student loan or Pell Grant or something and bought instruments, then you used tax payer money. If you won money in a scholarship and the rules of the scholarship ALLOW you to use the money for musical instruments, then it's no problem. If the rules DON'T allow that and you did it anyway...well...you get the idea. Using student loans and scholarship money to repair your car WHILE ENROLLED AND ATTENDING COLLEGE is usually acceptable because that's considered a living expense directly related to you pursuing your education. Sounds like you need to find easier ways to get money for school. Do you have a job? Sorry to keep bringing that up in this thread but my parents didn't help me out with one single cent. I didn't even live with my parents from the time I was 10 years old, but since my dad was a architect, the FASFA office decided that "my family" made too much money for me to get financial aid (for a few years anyway). So I ended up working 2 or 3 jobs to pay for college when I was a student. My advice, get a job and try not to borrow more than you need.

The bottom line is that all that money comes with rules. Read the rules and you'll know what you're allowed to spend it on and what you can't spend it on. I know one girl who got a big, whopping college scholarship because she was a minority and she used the money to take her mom & sisters with her to Vegas to go gambling (she told me all this!). After that, she withdrew from school because she never inteded to attend college anyway. That was illegal. She could face heavy fines, law suits, maybe even jail time. Now she's in debt up to her eyeballs and since she didn't finish college, she can't earn enough to pay it off. Sucks to be her.

He may be talking about a scholastic grant such as TAP, if he's located in NYC. TAP covers my entire tuition, books and they give it's recipients a $1,000 stipend each semester to cover living expenses. I too have used two of these checks to purchase things that I considered an investment, a computer, since I didn't own one prior to College and an amplifier since I didn't own a giggable amp. The amp has, undoubtedly, paid itself off in both gigs and studio work.
 
Exactly! I'm a recent college grad who has been making pretty decent money working at a trucking company on a dock. It's part-time (i.e. no benefits), but I get a pretty good paycheck. I don't mind it, but I know that the majority of my friends would run scared from a job like it. One thing I've learned in college is that college kids think that right when they get out of college they are gonna land their dream career. Immediately thereafter they write off 90% of the jobs in the classifieds until either their parents kick them out or they default on their loans.

I have a full-time job with benefits, and I still work jobs on the side for the extra cash. My family is worth it. This is my sacrifice for my two baby boys.
 
If you have any money left, grab yourself an ice cold Coke and sit down. Catch your breath! You sound pissed!

What "refund" are you talking about? You said you and your mom got "refunds" that you have to pay back? Are you talking about your annual tax refunds? You don't have to pay those back; they're not loans. Tax refunds are like Unemployment benefits. They are not loans, they are money that you already paid to the gov't and are now getting back for your use. A payment that you receive from a loan or a scholarship is not a "refund" check. Now if you are trying to say that you paid for school up front and then you were reimbursed by the loans or scholarships, still--that's not the same as using taxpayer money for personal gain. Is that what you're saying? For example, you paid $1,500 to the school out of pocket while you were waiting for the loan to come through; then the loan sent you a check for $1,500 to reimburse your school costs. Is that what you're saying? If so, you still spent that $1,500 on school so it's legit.

Everybody's troubles are a little different. If you used your tax refund to buy instruments then you DIDN'T use "tax payer money"--you used YOUR money. If you got a subsidized student loan or Pell Grant or something and bought instruments, then you used tax payer money. If you won money in a scholarship and the rules of the scholarship ALLOW you to use the money for musical instruments, then it's no problem. If the rules DON'T allow that and you did it anyway...well...you get the idea. Using student loans and scholarship money to repair your car WHILE ENROLLED AND ATTENDING COLLEGE is usually acceptable because that's considered a living expense directly related to you pursuing your education. Sounds like you need to find easier ways to get money for school. Do you have a job? Sorry to keep bringing that up in this thread but my parents didn't help me out with one single cent. I didn't even live with my parents from the time I was 10 years old, but since my dad was a architect, the FASFA office decided that "my family" made too much money for me to get financial aid (for a few years anyway). So I ended up working 2 or 3 jobs to pay for college when I was a student. My advice, get a job and try not to borrow more than you need.

The bottom line is that all that money comes with rules. Read the rules and you'll know what you're allowed to spend it on and what you can't spend it on. I know one girl who got a big, whopping college scholarship because she was a minority and she used the money to take her mom & sisters with her to Vegas to go gambling (she told me all this!). After that, she withdrew from school because she never inteded to attend college anyway. That was illegal. She could face heavy fines, law suits, maybe even jail time. Now she's in debt up to her eyeballs and since she didn't finish college, she can't earn enough to pay it off. Sucks to be her.

My mom attends college as well that way she can provide more income to get my bro and sis a car and college education.

Nope, I don't have a job. No is hiring. I live in Fayetteville, NC. A job recently told a FB friend that they got 150 applicants in 5 min within posting a job ad online (probably CL). So yeah, I've been trying. I apply to all the hard jobs... Distribution centers, warehouses, landscaping/yardcare service.

What I'm upset about is people always saying that college kids are using up taxpayers money and blowing it away. But everyone should also know how much professor and board members blow it away. It's disheartening to be in college where people have to live in dorms with one shower per floor, mold, mildew, cockroaches, etc.etc. and the school decides instead to build a new art building.

Kinda like when you see a cop wasting taxpayer money and you get upset. Well that's how the people at my college feel. We have absolutely no control over the money we spend to better our education. So when someone accuses some student of spending taxpayer money right off the bat... ESPECIALLY SOMEONE who has a 15 watt amp, no cable, screwed up light bill, etc... I take offense... sorry for being crass though

EDIT: lol... my mom isn't attending college to make money, but rather to get a teaching job in the near future. She almost has her B.A. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 
Well, that made alot of sense. The job market is bad pretty much everywhere. I understand that. That's frustrating.

I agree that the schools themselves waste just as much and probably more tax money than students do.

Here's a true story:
In the mid '90s the state University here had an article published in their paper (student run paper) that said that ALL the money from the Campus Parking authority had "disappeared". Each student paid approx $70/semester for a parking pass. So $75 x 25,000+ students...that's alot of dough. Well, after this article was in the paper ONCE--there was never another peep about it anywhere! Not the U's paper, not the local city paper, not the TV news...nothing. Someone just stole buckets of money that students had paid to the University and that was it! Case closed--not another word.

Yeah, schools waste ginormous gobs of money every year!
 
I think every tax funded job does. The military is one of the worst from what I hear (from top military personnel). And the people on the front lines have no control there either. This is kinda the reason I want a hard job. I want to say honestly and truly I know the value of a dollar. I mean I've worked hard for volunteer stuff cause I like to help kids from bad homes, but almost every dollar I've gotten has been given to me or won in some scholarly contest. I want to work hard and at the end of the week look at whatever paycheck I've gotten and know that I earned that with my hands.

I sure as heck don't want to pay a money wasting school to do school work under their babysitting. I want to work to get paid lol
 
I think every tax funded job does. The military is one of the worst from what I hear (from top military personnel). And the people on the front lines have no control there either. This is kinda the reason I want a hard job. I want to say honestly and truly I know the value of a dollar. I mean I've worked hard for volunteer stuff cause I like to help kids from bad homes, but almost every dollar I've gotten has been given to me or won in some scholarly contest. I want to work hard and at the end of the week look at whatever paycheck I've gotten and know that I earned that with my hands.

I sure as heck don't want to pay a money wasting school to do school work under their babysitting. I want to work to get paid lol


I truly know what you mean. I being on disability. It's boring as hell for one, but it also makes me feel lazy. I'm hoping that in a few years I'll be stable enough to hold down a job, and I want to support not only myself but my fiance' and help fix her credit mess (which again was already stared before I moved in with her).

I used to work trailor maintance. NOTHING teaches you the value of a dollar more than spending two 60+ hour work weeks digging through raw sewage trying to find where the septic leak is.
 
So I'm enrolled in college and every now and again I get a stipend check from my studet loans. Well I got a check from them yesterday for a grand. All my books have been ordered, software bought, tuition payed. So I start getting excited. I finally get to settle some gas I've been having and get that 450 watt rig I've had my eye on and possibly a squier to go with it. Then my fiance' hands me the electric bill.... we're 3 months past due an it' comes up to 900 dollars.... plus late fees. FML

I can only hope that you have awareness of the limits of Title IV financial aid. There is a cap to what you can borrow, before you must have a degree, and the loans are exempt from bankruptcy relief. As a former financial aid officer, I saw a lot of abuse of Title IV funding, and then people would have the gall to go to the media, or their Congressman/woman, to say that they were "misled" by their schools, when, in fact, they chose to ignore warnings and advisories against over-borrowing. If you are attending an online institution, with 4-year degree ambitions, you are probably already in trouble, and at high risk for running out of funding before you finish. Stipends are double-edged swords that need to be handled carefully.
 
No she doesn't talk to me about the bills. I give her my income and she handles the rest. She doens't like talking about the bills, I've had the discussion with her once and realized (much like this thread) it was a bad idea.

Dude - this is the only comment you have made that I am going to respond to.

If you are giving her all your income, you NEED to know where it is going and what it is being spent on. Money conversations are never fun. Trust me! I've been there...a lot! But one thing I always know is, where my money is going.

When you are 3 months late on a gas bill, and you are handing over all your money to her, you have a right to know why the bill isn't paid!

Man up otherwise she will use you up and spit you out!!
 
Dude - this is the only comment you have made that I am going to respond to.

If you are giving her all your income, you NEED to know where it is going and what it is being spent on. Money conversations are never fun. Trust me! I've been there...a lot! But one thing I always know is, where my money is going.

When you are 3 months late on a gas bill, and you are handing over all your money to her, you have a right to know why the bill isn't paid!

Man up otherwise she will use you up and spit you out!!
i agree with this--talking about bills suck, but it's something that has to be done. if she can't get the bill payment sent off in time, then take it over yourself.

That reminds me of when i moved in with some friends my senior year of college--i didn't realize that they haven't been paying bills for months, and somewhere around the 3rd day i was moved in, the power went off lol needless to say, I took over the bill collecting for the house at that point. Just remember-if they are flaky, you are still going to pay for it.
 
All I can say to the faux punk is this: son, screw your head on straight, and take care of business. If you don't, you're going to get screwed up the a** with a big rubber d*** in another few years. You can believe me on that, I've been there, done that, and it took 10 years to sort out the resulting mess.

I mean, if you enjoy being in debt, with debt collectors chasing you down, not being able to get any loans, any credit, not being able to purchase a vehicle unless used and paid in cash, not being able to buy a house, get a mortgate, or get a loan from the bank because you need to travel back home because your mom just passed away, and they won't give you one? Yeah, by all means continue doing what it is you're doing.
 

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