Darkglass Anagram Multi FX Announced

[IvanBassist]

The Peggy amp block sounds like an SVT, but unfortunately it’s missing an input control, which would be ideal to push the amp into breaking up and getting some dirt.

I need to confirm once I’m back home, but adding a Gain block before the Peggy should solve that issue. Then again, having the Input Gain inside the amp block itself would be better

So, I was able to get the Peggy to distort, but only after adding about +27dB of gain

I wouldn’t say it is a viable solution.

 

[BrianVengeance]

Die 3 Deutschen am diskutieren. Herrlich

Das Anagram Tonsuchendebüro!

 

[Chrishi87]

I was told by the SW rep who worked with Marcos that MIDI+ power was possible.

Darkglass site confirms this!!!

Uhhh nice.
I just looked at the MIDI Manual, instead of the Anagram.

 

[Barticus]

Uhhh nice.
I just looked at the MIDI Manual, instead of the Anagram.

I’m glad I’ve “finally” convinced you that this will work

Now I just need my Anagram to arrive so I can test it out.

Hoffentlich kommt es früher als geplant an

(Komplimente meiner Frau )

 

[Nayatteu]

Does anyone who buys and uses anagrams also buy a line isolator?
Or is the Anagram perfect on its own?

Oh, and since the Di outputs are L/R separate, is it OK to run the L to mono?

 

[Ratterbass_]

So, I was able to get the Peggy to distort, but only after adding about +27dB of gain

I wouldn’t say it is a viable solution.

Was it actually the peggy distorting like you would expect an svt to or could it also have been just digital clipping with the level reaching 0dBfs?

 

[IvanBassist]

Was it actually the peggy distorting like you would expect an svt to or could it also have been just digital clipping with the level reaching 0dBfs?

It was not the same as a tube amp distorting, but the output was not clipping. Neither on the Anagram or my interface

 

[Ratterbass_]

It was not the same as a tube amp distorting, but the output was not clipping. Neither on the Anagram or my interface

Did you have the peggy as last block in the chain or did you lower the volume after it/with the volume parameter inside the block?

Reason for asking is that it's possible the block itself was clipping and you turned down the already clipped signal so the meters showed everything as OK. The anagram doesn't have clipping indicators inside the blocks like the cortex or axe fx, does it? Could you repeat your test with just the peggy and whatever gain you need to drive it in front of it? For science

I really need to get my hands on a unit myself, highly curious...

 

[IvanBassist]

Did you have the peggy as last block in the chain or did you lower the volume after it/with the volume parameter inside the block?

Reason for asking is that it's possible the block itself was clipping and you turned down the already clipped signal so the meters showed everything as OK. The anagram doesn't have clipping indicators inside the blocks like the cortex or axe fx, does it? Could you repeat your test with just the peggy and whatever gain you need to drive it in front of it? For science

I really need to get my hands on a unit myself, highly curious...

That’s how i did it. Gain block > Harmonic booster > Peggy

 

[Hypocrite]

Can we all take a moment to appreciate out of the box we won’t have to scroll through 57 different Marshall and Mesa modelled amps and someone made something for our little corner of the world

And it comes as literally zero surprise to anyone that there are plenty of forums with guitarists pissing and moaning about how it's specifically designed for us bassists.
The salty tears of thin-stringed peasants sustain me

 

[gtirard]

And it comes as literally zero surprise to anyone that there are plenty of forums with guitarists pissing and moaning about how it's specifically designed for us bassists.
The salty tears of thin-stringed peasants sustain me

100% agree.

That said, it would make sense for Darkglass to release a "guitar edition" of the Anagram.

 

[Barticus]

100% agree.

That said, it would make sense for Darkglass to release a "guitar edition" of the Anagram.

Does DG have guitar amps? Nope.
Why does this make sense?

I think it’s okay for a company to specialize products for a segment, vs diluting like many others have. I would agree with the previous post, let’s appreciate that their focus is on bass.

 

[GotGroove]

That said, it would make sense for Darkglass to release a "guitar edition" of the Anagram.

As a maker of bass pedals, I don't see how that makes sense. They never made one single pedal or amp for guitar as far as I know. Nor would there be any real need for a guitar version given enough time. With an open source system, NAM profiles and perhaps a future capturing feature, even guitarists will have access to everything they could want. Granted, it's mostly still in development, but still.

I'm not saying they shouldn't or couldn't. But as a maker of bass pedals it would be odd to start dabbling in effects dedicated to guitar for just 1 pedal. And they'd actively have to compete with companies like Line 6 and Neural DSP, which both already have pedals that are pretty much fleshed out and complete. I'd rather stick to what I'm known for and good at with very few competitors.

 

[Killerfridge]

So, I was able to get the Peggy to distort, but only after adding about +27dB of gain

I wouldn’t say it is a viable solution.

An ampeg model that doesn't distort feels like it's missing half the features :/ Obviously could be fixed with distortion, or a NAM model, but still

 

[Ratterbass_]

Does DG have guitar amps? Nope.

but they do in the element and exponent.

 

[BrianVengeance]

An ampeg model that doesn't distort feels like it's missing half the features :/ Obviously could be fixed with distortion, or a NAM model, but still

My guess is that the opportunity here is for Ampeg to convert their VST into something that runs on the platform, which is IMO inherently better than a capture. It’s the difference between a still from a movie and the scene itself.

 

[Killerfridge]

My guess is that the opportunity here is for Ampeg to convert their VST into something that runs on the platform, which is IMO inherently better than a capture. It’s the difference between a still from a movie and the scene itself.

Yeah it just feels weird not to have that in the in-built model though, especially when the likes of the HXStomp, or the Quad Cortex both do it. Being able to patch in third party VSTs is a cool concept, but I just don't get why the onboard model doesn't already do such a thing. It's like them having a "Sansamp BDDI" pedal, except it doesn't have a drive control

 

[gtirard]

Does DG have guitar amps? Nope.
Why does this make sense?

I think it’s okay for a company to specialize products for a segment, vs diluting like many others have. I would agree with the previous post, let’s appreciate that their focus is on bass.

As a maker of bass pedals, I don't see how that makes sense. They never made one single pedal or amp for guitar as far as I know. Nor would there be any real need for a guitar version given enough time. With an open source system, NAM profiles and perhaps a future capturing feature, even guitarists will have access to everything they could want. Granted, it's mostly still in development, but still.

I'm not saying they shouldn't or couldn't. But as a maker of bass pedals it would be odd to start dabbling in effects dedicated to guitar for just 1 pedal. And they'd actively have to compete with companies like Line 6 and Neural DSP, which both already have pedals that are pretty much fleshed out and complete. I'd rather stick to what I'm known for and good at with very few competitors.

Technically, the Anagram is comparable to a guitar multi-effect, with characteristics that guitarists would love to have (compact, powerful, great UI, and NAM). In particular, NAM is very efficient for high gain tones, that guitarist use more than we do.

Guitarists would love to have a guitar version of the Anagram, they would buy it, and they represent a much bigger market (= business opportunity = sales) than the bass market. All it would take to make a guitar version of the Anagram is to develop guitar specific blocks (amps, effects, etc.)

On of the big advatage of the Anagram for us is to have bass curated content (no dozen of Marshall amps etc.), but if they release a guitar specific version aside the current bass specific version, everybody would be happy: we would not loose anything, guitarsits would be able to use it, and Darkglass would make more profit.

Or even better: they could add guitar specific content, but add the possibility to configure the device with "bass" or "guitar" curated content, so you lend your pedal to your guitarist, and vice versa, and still get a nice uncluttered user interface.

That's why I think it would make sense, so may dissagree of course.

 

[Barticus]

Technically, the Anagram is comparable to a guitar multi-effect, with characteristics that guitarists would love to have (compact, powerful, great UI, and NAM). In particular, NAM is very efficient for high gain tones, that guitarist use more than we do.

Guitarists would love to have a guitar version of the Anagram, they would buy it, and they represent a much bigger market (= business opportunity = sales) than the bass market. All it would take to make a guitar version of the Anagram is to develop guitar specific blocks (amps, effects, etc.)

On of the big advatage of the Anagram for us is to have bass curated content (no dozen of Marshall amps etc.), but if they release a guitar specific version aside the current bass specific version, everybody would be happy: we would not loose anything, guitarsits would be able to use it, and Darkglass would make more profit.

Or even better: they could add guitar specific content, but add the possibility to configure the device with "bass" or "guitar" curated content, so you lend your pedal to your guitarist, and vice versa, and still get a nice uncluttered user interface.

That's why I think it would make sense, so may dissagree of course.

Yes Line 6 HX Stomp or QC already do this. I deleted all of the factory guitar patches on my gigging Stomp XL version so it only has bass presets.

I for one, am very glad this is “bass only”. And with DG focusing on ONLY bass, I’m hoping the firmware will evolve quickly and show up rapidly as well.

I’ll be very happy once mine finally arrives (I’m sure you already have one, right?) so I can ween my live rig off of the “guitar and bass?” Stomp XL.

I’ll keep one of my 2 Stomp XLs, for… guitar

 

[Chrishi87]

I’ll be very happy once mine finally arrives (I’m sure you already have one, right?) so I can ween my live rig off of the “guitar and bass?” Stomp XL.

Wie lang musst du warten?