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Darkglass Anagram Multi FX Announced

Awesome feedback, but I hoped my reason with the out of tune A string was the real one, because I don´t hear or even understand about the inharmonic part.
Maybe because English is not my native language :roflmao: (Thats why I have many capital letter words. Thanks autocorrect)
 
I’m curious if anyone is getting discounts on these through their Sweetwater contacts?

I’ve talked to two people who said they got them to drop the price by ~75-100. I just called and the guy I spoke with said they aren’t flexing on the price at all.

I get that these are on back/pre-order and buyers don’t have much leverage at the moment. Still, I don’t imagine the margins are thin, and clearly Darkglass isn’t prohibiting dealers from discounting them by some amount.
 
Initial testing with the Anagram is done. Before starting I updated both Darkglass Suite and the Anagram firmware to current versions. First impressions are not as glowing as seemingly everyone else that owns one, but it's a net positive. I'm undecided at this point if I'll keep it or not. Here are my, admittedly, scattered thoughts based on two scenarios:
  1. Dingwall Super J (3X SF2 pickups, Glockenklang preamp set flat, new'ish Dingwall nickel roundwounds) into the Anagram, then into a Trickfish Bullhead 1K powering a Bergantino NV115. I'll repeat this one tomorrow into a Trickfish TF212V cabinet which has a tweeter, unlike the Bergantino.
  2. Same bass as above into the Anagram with my IEMs connected to the headphone jack (64 Audio N8 custom IEMs).

The most impressive feature of this unit is how successfully Darkglass implemented unity gain from processing block to block, and similarly how well calibrated input and output settings are. If you add a value of X to the input control and then subtract the same value of X from the output the net output from the block remains shockingly consistent. This is implemented much better than on the HX Stomp and on basically any analog pedal I've ever owned. Really nicely done.

The general GUI and user experience of the pedal is very good. I see what some people have mentioned about the touchscreen not being the most responsive thing on the planet, but to me it works just fine provided you're making deliberate and smooth movements. If you attempt to flick your way through things it won't work well, but slow down a little, be more explicit in how you make screen decisions and it works well.

The granularity of the six control knobs leaves a lot to be desired. They seem calibrated to favor making big moves and struggle when making small moves. Not a huge deal as in most cases with this pedal, differences of tenths don't matter to a huge degree, whereas differences of half an integer do make a noticeable difference and are within the range of control for the knobs. If you want to tweak down to the tenth you'll likely struggle.

There's been much discussion about latency with this unit as well as other modelers. As I knew going in, it's a complete and utter non-issue. Yes, there is latency as there is with all digital units, as well as with all airborne transmission of audio since there's no getting around physics and the speed of sound is around 1ms per foot (not super accurate, but close enough depending on elevation and relative humidity as they relate to air density). Don't sweat the latency. It's not a factor worth considering.

The amps are an interesting flavor. As others have noted, they really only modeled the frequency response characteristics of the amps they've included. There's no means of saturating or overdriving an amp. If you want those characteristics you have to add one of the overdrive/distortion/fuzz pedals before or after the amp, which rarely feels like the same thing. For my needs as a predominantly RnB, soul, funk, pop, jazz bassist that's fine as I typically prefer a clean amp with the option to turn on an overdrive pedal when needed. I almost never need an always on drive like you'd get from a pushed tube amp, but for those that play in more rock and metal contexts this could be a downside for them.

Of the amps I found that I liked the Harmonic Booster the best, especially with the character knob somewhere in the 2.5-3.5 range and the blend around 50-65%. Just enough color to be interesting, but still enough of the dry DI signal to retain the character and all-important midrange of my bass. I was surprised by how much I liked the Leo (Fender) amp. I really disliked the Gentle (Noble) for it's odd midrange voicing and the Peggy (Ampeg) which felt bloated down low and pingy up top in a very unpleasant way. The Super California (Mesa, I think) was okay but didn't blow me away. It felt a bit like a less impressive Leo, but in a mix it might have faired a bit better as the Leo has a noticeable scoop to the midrange. The Jim (Marshall) really surprised me. In demos I've not been impressed with it, but it actually sounds quite nice. It might be my second favorite of the factory amps. I'll do more testing with it. The Kallinen Kruukkeri (GK) amp was a mixed bag. With the mid contour turned on it sounded thin and overly crispy up top. With it turned off it sounded uninteresting and kind of honky in the midrange. It's not an amp for me, but I could see it working well in a number of contexts outside of my usual work. I was surprised as I've owned many GK amps over the years and generally get along well with their tone stack.

All of the factory cab models sounded awful to me. Well... the Mountaintino 610 (Bergantino NV610) sounded okay, but had some noticeable bloat going on down low. The artist cabs also had some garbage, but the Nolly captures sounded great. Not surprisingly given how great he is at developing tones. I ended up really liking the Nolly Blend a lot. I'll be sticking with that for the moment. I have the Shiftline IR pack from when I was an HX Stomp user and there were a couple of IRs in there that I really liked. Tomorrow I'll load those into the Anagram and see if any can beat the Nolly Blend IR. Currently running the Nolly Blend at about 50-65% really does the trick of sounding like the best of a cab IR and a dry DI.

I didn't think the high pass filter was going to offer anything exciting, but to my surprise it included a -6db/oct setting, which is something I always really enjoy. I like setting the filter frequency up in the 65-80hz range depending on the gig, but sometimes with a -12db/oct slope that can gut the bottom end a bit more than I'd like so I end up having to roll it down into the 40hz range which can cause interference with the kick drum on certain gigs. A -6db/oct setting let's me set the filter higher, but still retain just enough bottom end to fill out the mix without totally clashing with the kick drum.

Of the octaves I greatly preferred the Sublemon. It was the most OC-2'ish, which is really my home base when it comes to octave pedals. It sounded somewhere between just okay and decent doing the typical 50/50 Sledgehammer type tone. The other two octaves sounded pretty bad doing the 50/50 thing to my ears. The filter cutoff frequency control can be used to generate some Mantic Hulk type tones or to make the octaves sound more crunchy, but in general I think Darkglass did a good job of tuning where the midpoint setting (5.0) places the filter cutoff. Disappointingly I thought all of the octaves did a poor job of doing the Tim Lefebvre and Janek Gwizdala 100% set OC-2 sound. No matter the settings I could not emulate that type of sound effectively. It's not a sound I need often, but I do have gigs where it's called for and in those instances I'd be forced to either bring my 3Leaf Octabvre or to just deal with a bad sounding version of it from the Anagram. Also of note, when I engaged Subcitri, the polyphonic octaver, I could detect noticeable latency through my IEMs. Not bad enough to make me unable to play tight to a groove, but enough for me to notice and feel "off" with it engaged. There may be some processing that requires lookahead to achieve polyphony, so this might be a necessary evil if you need an octave-down effect on chords. I never do and I also don't like the sound of that processing block, so for me it's a non-issue but I wanted to mention it. Lastly on octaves; The tracking is incredible. Better even than digital octave pedals I've used in the past like various POG iterations and what's included in Helix. The tracking is glitch-free and capable of sustaining notes far lower than I ever use an octave-down effect to play. Really top notch execution in the tracking department. I have an MTD that I play in one band and my 3Leaf Octabvre struggles to track the Bb on the D string where that bass has this weird dead spot. That's not a fault of the 3Leaf pedal at all, it's just a wonky spot on that MTD that I have to accommodate when using it. I'm going to try it into the Anagram tomorrow to see how it fares given how impressive the tracking was with my Dingwall. I doubt it will be able to track it meaningfully, but I was so impressed I simply have to try it.

As for other effects, outside of distortions and envelop filters, which I'll talk about separately, I really only ever use the occasional chorus and reverb. The Mint Chocolate chorus sounds nice with the depth set around 5.0 and the rate down around 1.25khz. It's not quite as nice sounding as my Analogman Mini Chorus with the deep mod, but unlike the Analogman the Mint Chorus doesn't come with a built-in volume jump. It's a chorus that sounds nice and achieves unity gain when engaged. For the limited amount I use a chorus pedal I'll happily deal with slightly lower effect quality for one that doesn't all of a sudden at 2-3db to my output volume. The reverbs all generally sound nice as do the delays. The only use I have for reverb is on gigs where I'm playing an electric upright. A little reverb helps an EUB sound a bit more like an acoustic upright. Tomorrow I'm going to try building a patch for EUB gigs with a split to only apply reverb to the upper midrange and higher frequencies while leaving the bottom end dry. I think the room reverb processing block will sound really nice for this application. I never use delay, but I will say that the delays all sounded great with my preference being the digital delay for it's precision and how clean the repeats are.

Envelope filters... they're... sigh... they're trash. I hate them. The Mu-Tron'ish one and the Moog'ish one. I don't know what to say. The filter action is unresponsive in all but the most extreme of settings. The filter sounds are either bloated and muddy or overly thin and plinky sounding. I rarely need an envelop filter. In fact, of all my gigs there's only one band where I use one and it's in a solo feature where I could easily omit it and be just fine. I typically use a 3Leaf Proton mkIV for this task and it sounds incredible. I hated the envelope filters in the HX Stomp and have heard that the ones in the Quad Cortex are also awful. I was hoping the Anagram would be better, but I could not get anything usable out of either block. Tomorrow I'll explore some of the factory and user presets from the Darkglass Suite to see if I'm just misunderstanding the settings, but something tells me I'm just not going to be a fan.

Distortion pedals are tough. I always struggle with them. Generally speaking the overdrive that's consistently worked well for me is the B3K. I currently have a B1K on my analog board and it works great. It's well voiced for bass, and even though it has a reputation of being this rock and metal de facto sound, I use it in my RnB, pop, soul, funk, etc. contexts all the time and it works great. The version in the Anagram sounds like the hardware one to me. Good enough. Moving on. I've own the VMT in the past and didn't like the way it softened the attack of notes. The Anagram version does the same, although arguably feels a bit more usable than the actual pedal it's emulating, so in this case I think I like the Anagram version more than the real one. I've never owned an Alpha-Omega/Omicron, but if they're anything like the Anagram model I wouldn't like them anyway. Not for me. I've owned the small verison of the X pedal and the Anagram version feels like a good recreation. It's not a sound I prefer, but overall it's probably my second favorite Darkglass distortion sound. Usable, just not my thing. I've owned a Duality before and the Anagram version sounds a little more gated and synthy than the actual pedal. I think I prefer the sound of the Anagram version as it's more like my 3Leaf Doom2 than the Duality pedal to my ears. Not quite as interesting sounding as the Doom2, but it'll do in a pinch. The Anagram version felt very touchy to changes in input level. I don't remember if that was the case on the actual pedal or not. Either way, it's passable and may have uses for me in low gain applications paired with a 100% wet octave to generate synth tones. The Chinchilla sucks. I hate it. Maybe in a crossover split it would be better, but I didn't bother. It's not for me. I've never really gotten along with Rat-based distortions, so this is no surprise.

The biggest problem I've got with the Anagram is something I also didn't like about the HX Stomp, which is the introduction of audible inharmonic content. This occurs with two specific processes; The pitch shifting block, and non-linear processes (aka various forms of distortion). I'm not sure if these are introducing harmonic content that exceeds Nyquist thus resulting in aliasing that folds down into the audible spectrum inharmonically to the sound source or what, but once you hear it you can't unhear it. The Anagram operates internally at a sample rate of 48khz, which puts Nyquist up at 24khz. I'm not sure how Darkglass implemented their anti-aliasing filter, but if aliasing is the cause of these inharmonic sounds, an oversampling option for processing blocks that introduce non-linearities could be a nice inclusion. A harmonic series generated by a bass guitar, even a bright one, has to be pretty significant to generate content above 24khz resulting in aliasing and inharmonic audible fold down, so I'm not convinced that aliasing is actually the culprit, but I have no other ideas as to what could be the source of this with two digital pedals from two wholly separate manufacturers. Curiously, with the HX Stomp it was more noticeable in my IEMs and less noticeable in my cabs, but with the Anagram it was the opposite. When testing through my NV115 I could hear it clearly, particularly on the pitch shifter, but also on the various distortions once the saturation was set high enough. When I switched to my IEMs it was improved but not totally eliminated. Again, the HX Stomp was the opposite in this regard. With no pitch shifter block or distortion is't a complete non-issue. Once they're introduced it becomes a guessing game as to whether I can deal with it or not. If anything causes me to sell the Anagram it will be this. It made me sell my HX Stomp, so I wouldn't be surprised if it kills my desire to keep the Anagram. Only time will tell.

Speaking of the pitch shifter; It worked well enough in terms of tracking and lowering my bass from E standard to Eb standard, which is a function I was hoping to utilize with a band I play in occasionally. Their entire set is in E standard except for one song where they switch guitars to Eb standard. I never want to bring two basses and don't want to bother tuning all of my strings down, so I just play it up an octave (i.e. sixth fret of the A string for the root), but it really does sound better tuned down a semitone. The problem is the introduction of inharmonic content as described in the previous paragraph. It was so present through my NV115 that it was unusable. Through my IEMs it was mitigated to some degree, but still present. The band where I want that functionality doesn't use IEMs, so unless I can figure out a way to eliminate the inharmonic content it won't be an option.

Last, but not least an interesting note about the compressors. I did not try the limiter as I've never met a limiter I liked. I tried the Hyper Luminal (FET) compressor and found that no matter the setting, I could not hear any audible compression occurring. I set the compressor for a 20:1 ratio with the fastest attack and slowest release possible, then cranked the input control and nothing changed. Thinking that perhaps the compressor worked by lowering the input control, thus marking it more of a threshold control, I tried the opposite approach and the results remained unchanged. Frustrated, I switched to the Buss Compressor which I assume is some sort of VCA emulation like what you'd find on an SSL console. I set the compression ratio to the maximum setting of 10:1, the fastest attack, the shortest release, and lowered the threshold control to the bottom so that ANY signal entering the block would trigger the compression. This sounded like it was doing something, but nowhere near what a 10:1 compressor should sound like with a -40db threshold in place. I recorded a loop into the Anagram and then sent the output into Logic to get a visual representation of what I described above. I've included a screenshot of that below with the various settings described in the track header.

My compressor conclusions:
  • The 'No Comp' track (blue) has no compressor processing block inserted into the Anagram at all.
  • The Luminal default settings, and then both of the input/output min/max versions are all shockingly close. So close that there's no way a 20:1 compression ratio was being applied. It's as if this compressor does nothing. I could not get it to null against the 'No Comp' version, so either it's doing something very subtle outside of compression, or I wasn't perfectly time-aligning the two tracks despite zooming into to sample levels of visibility for time alignment. Regardless, in my testing, the Hyper Luminal provided zero actual compression. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. At this point I wouldn't even call it a compressor. I'll do more testing and would be happy to learn that I'm using the Hyper Luminal wrong, but as an audio engineer I feel well qualified to navigate a compressor. Still, I've done dumber things, so if anyone can clarify how to get this thing to actually compress I'd love to hear it. For now, it's simply a compressor in name only, not at all in function.
  • The buss compressor with a threshold setting of -40db at 10:1 provides clearly visible compression, but to my ears it sounded nothing like a 10:1 compressor. The last track in the last uses a Fabfilter C2 compressor in Logic with identical settings and it makes a visible difference in the level of compression and it actually sounds like 10:1 compression. Fabfilter C2 measures perfectly in Plugin Doctor, so I know that it's actually providing a 10:1 ratio. The Anagram's Buss compressor is at least doing something, as compared to Hyper Luminal which is not compressing at all, but despite the 10:1 option, it is not in fact providing 10:1 compression but rather something less than that.
  • Ultimately I went with the Buss compressor set for maximum squash, or rather as much maximum squash it's capable of which is very limited, and then set the blend to 65% and was happy enough with the result.
  • The Hyper Luminal is useless, the Buss is fine enough but pretty underwhelming, and both absolutely stink when compared to my Keely Compressor Pro which sounds better, has more pleasing compressor attack/release and knee characteristics, as well as also providing believable levels of gain reduction with visible metering.
  • Darkglass really needs to implement gain reduction metering in the Anagram. People have been screaming for it with the HX Stomp for years, so it's a real oversight on the part of Darkglass to omit such an often-requested feature from arguably their biggest competitor.
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So there we go. An overly long-winded post of mostly positives, some middling bits, and a few outright negatives. Time will tell for me and the Anagram. I really want to like it. I hope the negatives don't win out. More testing and verbose opinions to come in the next few days. To be continued...
The "bloaty" amp/cab emulation effect is always my fear. I think this is why I greatly prefer captures to emulators. They seem to do a better job of "cutting the fat"
 
I’m curious if anyone is getting discounts on these through their Sweetwater contacts?

I’ve talked to two people who said they got them to drop the price by ~75-100. I just called and the guy I spoke with said they aren’t flexing on the price at all.

I get that these are on back/pre-order and buyers don’t have much leverage at the moment. Still, I don’t imagine the margins are thin, and clearly Darkglass isn’t prohibiting dealers from discounting them by some amount.
But then there is the thing we're not allowed to talk about that would factor into their reluctance to give a discount until they actually have the item in stock.
 
The "bloaty" amp/cab emulation effect is always my fear. I think this is why I greatly prefer captures to emulators. They seem to do a better job of "cutting the fat"
I give credit to Line 6 for having a dedicated HPF and LPF for their IR loader for this very reason, cabs really can alter the sound and just like if FOH were to mic a cab they’d still need to EQ it
 
I’m curious if anyone is getting discounts on these through their Sweetwater contacts?

I’ve talked to two people who said they got them to drop the price by ~75-100. I just called and the guy I spoke with said they aren’t flexing on the price at all.

I get that these are on back/pre-order and buyers don’t have much leverage at the moment. Still, I don’t imagine the margins are thin, and clearly Darkglass isn’t prohibiting dealers from discounting them by some amount.

You must have gotten my Sweetwater rep. I really don't even look to Sweetwater much anymore. The guy will not discount anything and really doesn't seem to know much about gear at all. I have to explain stuff to him and he still doesn't get it. He is just an order taker. Now, my guy with Musician's Friend is great. Have gotten a discount on every single thing I have ever bought with him, new or used. That is always my first go to now.
 
But then there is the thing we're not allowed to talk about that would factor into their reluctance to give a discount until they actually have the item in stock.
For sure. Honestly, he used that to leverage the 'sale' when he thought I was in a hurry to buy (which I am not). i.e. "Some people are waiting months right now, but with us you're probably looking at end of this month. And I would actually expect these prices to jump if anything else because of the economy. So I can't drop the price and I doubt anyone else will."

You must have gotten my Sweetwater rep. I really don't even look to Sweetwater much anymore. The guy will not discount anything and really doesn't seem to know much about gear at all. I have to explain stuff to him and he still doesn't get it. He is just an order taker. Now, my guy with Musician's Friend is great. Have gotten a discount on every single thing I have ever bought with him, new or used. That is always my first go to now.
This is definitely what it seemed like. I pinged my 'rep' and got a message saying he's unavailable and someone else would give me a ring. Then I got the overconfident order-taker instead of someone who actually wanted to have a conversation. It felt like a plug-n-play pitch that he would've used with any piece of gear someone was potentially looking to buy from SW.
 
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There's been much discussion about latency with this unit as well as other modelers. As I knew going in, it's a complete and utter non-issue. Yes, there is latency as there is with all digital units, as well as with all airborne transmission of audio since there's no getting around physics and the speed of sound is around 1ms per foot (not super accurate, but close enough depending on elevation and relative humidity as they relate to air density). Don't sweat the latency. It's not a factor worth considering.
Nice. Appreciate the thorough review. Interesting points made.

WRT latency, at least for my part, apologies if any of my previous comments were misconstrued to imply that latency of a given unit (Anagram or other) was a problem when using the digital modeler/profiler by itself. My concern has always been in regard to accounting for latency build-up when multiple digital AD/DA stages are used (digital wireless transmitter, existing digital modeler, digital snake I/O to digital console, IEM, etc.).

100%...no, 1000% understand that the Anagram latency is not an issue when using it on its own. Of course. :thumbsup:
But if I ADD the Anagram to a signal chain that may already have a number of units with their own +/-2msec latency, I believe it's good to know if if this ADDITION to the chain MIGHT push overall latency build-up to a point where it becomes noticeable. With the exception of pitch shifting, IF I were to have a preset with a split path in Anagram, with each path POSSIBLY loaded up with maximum amp, cab, NAM, comp, distortion, etc. blocks, THEN what is the maximum possible latency of the Anagram?

IF, without the Anagram, I have a latency build-up of around 8msec, all told, THEN adding another max. 2msec is likely no issue. But if a cpu-intensive, fully loaded-up preset pushes the latency up to around 5msec, then this would be worthy of note IMHO. NOT because of anything to do with this being a "problem" latency spec by itself, but because I'd want to consider, perhaps as an option, eliminating one of the OTHER elements of the signal chain in an effort to reduce the possibility of overall latency build-up becoming a distraction ( IOW, remove wireless transmitter, IEM or powered stage wedge w/digital EQ processing, etc.).

This is my only reason for wanting to know the max possible latency of the Anagram or ANY OTHER piece of digital gear being used in a signal chain.
FWIW, Anagram latency spec by itself was never going to make me NOT consider the Anagram...other things maybe, but not latency spec.
 
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WRT latency, at least for my part, apologies if any of my previous comments were misconstrued to imply that latency of a given unit (Anagram or other) was a problem when using the digital modeler/profiler by itself.
None of that was a comment on you, or anyone in particular. There’s just been a lot of stuff floating around in this thread and others about these levels of latency (ie 1-2ms) being capable of “destroying your ability to groove or lock in” which is utter nonsense. If that were the case a drummer could never successfully play their rack tom 😆
 
None of that was a comment on you, or anyone in particular. There’s just been a lot of stuff floating around in this thread and others about these levels of latency (ie 1-2ms) being capable of “destroying your ability to groove or lock in” which is utter nonsense. If that were the case a drummer could never successfully play their rack tom 😆
Cool. Doubtful Steve Vai would have the Anagram on his gear list. ;)
 
FWIW I used my Anagram last night for the 2nd time in a live setting. It's a live Karaoke band gig, and the quirk is that most (but not all!) of the songs on the list are down a half step. So I bring a 5 string tuned a half step down. However, there are a handful of songs that are in their original keys but translate on that instrument to being up a half step. So I set up a pitch block for emergency quick up or down half a step. Didn't end up using it last night, but I did check it at soundcheck. So signal chain, from bass to wireless in-ears was this:

Bass --> Sennheiser G4 wireless (analog) --> Anagram DI --> Midas digital mixer --> Sennheiser G4 IEM (analog)

I will say that even though there was technically only 2 digital devices in the chain, when I had the +1/-1 block enabled, I definitely could "feel" the latency. Makes sense because the full bass signal pitch shift always adds a slight delay (don't know the measurement). I could've gotten by with it, but it would've been bothersome for me I think.

TLDR: I'm with @silky smoove regarding the pitch shifting. "Not bad enough to make me unable to play tight to a groove, but enough for me to notice and feel "off" with it engaged."
 
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Initial testing with the Anagram is done. Before starting I updated both Darkglass Suite and the Anagram firmware to current versions. First impressions are not as glowing as seemingly everyone else that owns one, but it's a net positive. I'm undecided at this point if I'll keep it or not. Here are my, admittedly, scattered thoughts based on two scenarios:
  1. Dingwall Super J (3X SF2 pickups, Glockenklang preamp set flat, new'ish Dingwall nickel roundwounds) into the Anagram, then into a Trickfish Bullhead 1K powering a Bergantino NV115. I'll repeat this one tomorrow into a Trickfish TF212V cabinet which has a tweeter, unlike the Bergantino.
  2. Same bass as above into the Anagram with my IEMs connected to the headphone jack (64 Audio N8 custom IEMs).

The most impressive feature of this unit is how successfully Darkglass implemented unity gain from processing block to block, and similarly how well calibrated input and output settings are. If you add a value of X to the input control and then subtract the same value of X from the output the net output from the block remains shockingly consistent. This is implemented much better than on the HX Stomp and on basically any analog pedal I've ever owned. Really nicely done.

The general GUI and user experience of the pedal is very good. I see what some people have mentioned about the touchscreen not being the most responsive thing on the planet, but to me it works just fine provided you're making deliberate and smooth movements. If you attempt to flick your way through things it won't work well, but slow down a little, be more explicit in how you make screen decisions and it works well.

The granularity of the six control knobs leaves a lot to be desired. They seem calibrated to favor making big moves and struggle when making small moves. Not a huge deal as in most cases with this pedal, differences of tenths don't matter to a huge degree, whereas differences of half an integer do make a noticeable difference and are within the range of control for the knobs. If you want to tweak down to the tenth you'll likely struggle.

There's been much discussion about latency with this unit as well as other modelers. As I knew going in, it's a complete and utter non-issue. Yes, there is latency as there is with all digital units, as well as with all airborne transmission of audio since there's no getting around physics and the speed of sound is around 1ms per foot (not super accurate, but close enough depending on elevation and relative humidity as they relate to air density). Don't sweat the latency. It's not a factor worth considering.

The amps are an interesting flavor. As others have noted, they really only modeled the frequency response characteristics of the amps they've included. There's no means of saturating or overdriving an amp. If you want those characteristics you have to add one of the overdrive/distortion/fuzz pedals before or after the amp, which rarely feels like the same thing. For my needs as a predominantly RnB, soul, funk, pop, jazz bassist that's fine as I typically prefer a clean amp with the option to turn on an overdrive pedal when needed. I almost never need an always on drive like you'd get from a pushed tube amp, but for those that play in more rock and metal contexts this could be a downside for them.

Of the amps I found that I liked the Harmonic Booster the best, especially with the character knob somewhere in the 2.5-3.5 range and the blend around 50-65%. Just enough color to be interesting, but still enough of the dry DI signal to retain the character and all-important midrange of my bass. I was surprised by how much I liked the Leo (Fender) amp. I really disliked the Gentle (Noble) for it's odd midrange voicing and the Peggy (Ampeg) which felt bloated down low and pingy up top in a very unpleasant way. The Super California (Mesa, I think) was okay but didn't blow me away. It felt a bit like a less impressive Leo, but in a mix it might have faired a bit better as the Leo has a noticeable scoop to the midrange. The Jim (Marshall) really surprised me. In demos I've not been impressed with it, but it actually sounds quite nice. It might be my second favorite of the factory amps. I'll do more testing with it. The Kallinen Kruukkeri (GK) amp was a mixed bag. With the mid contour turned on it sounded thin and overly crispy up top. With it turned off it sounded uninteresting and kind of honky in the midrange. It's not an amp for me, but I could see it working well in a number of contexts outside of my usual work. I was surprised as I've owned many GK amps over the years and generally get along well with their tone stack.

All of the factory cab models sounded awful to me. Well... the Mountaintino 610 (Bergantino NV610) sounded okay, but had some noticeable bloat going on down low. The artist cabs also had some garbage, but the Nolly captures sounded great. Not surprisingly given how great he is at developing tones. I ended up really liking the Nolly Blend a lot. I'll be sticking with that for the moment. I have the Shiftline IR pack from when I was an HX Stomp user and there were a couple of IRs in there that I really liked. Tomorrow I'll load those into the Anagram and see if any can beat the Nolly Blend IR. Currently running the Nolly Blend at about 50-65% really does the trick of sounding like the best of a cab IR and a dry DI.

I didn't think the high pass filter was going to offer anything exciting, but to my surprise it included a -6db/oct setting, which is something I always really enjoy. I like setting the filter frequency up in the 65-80hz range depending on the gig, but sometimes with a -12db/oct slope that can gut the bottom end a bit more than I'd like so I end up having to roll it down into the 40hz range which can cause interference with the kick drum on certain gigs. A -6db/oct setting let's me set the filter higher, but still retain just enough bottom end to fill out the mix without totally clashing with the kick drum.

Of the octaves I greatly preferred the Sublemon. It was the most OC-2'ish, which is really my home base when it comes to octave pedals. It sounded somewhere between just okay and decent doing the typical 50/50 Sledgehammer type tone. The other two octaves sounded pretty bad doing the 50/50 thing to my ears. The filter cutoff frequency control can be used to generate some Mantic Hulk type tones or to make the octaves sound more crunchy, but in general I think Darkglass did a good job of tuning where the midpoint setting (5.0) places the filter cutoff. Disappointingly I thought all of the octaves did a poor job of doing the Tim Lefebvre and Janek Gwizdala 100% set OC-2 sound. No matter the settings I could not emulate that type of sound effectively. It's not a sound I need often, but I do have gigs where it's called for and in those instances I'd be forced to either bring my 3Leaf Octabvre or to just deal with a bad sounding version of it from the Anagram. Also of note, when I engaged Subcitri, the polyphonic octaver, I could detect noticeable latency through my IEMs. Not bad enough to make me unable to play tight to a groove, but enough for me to notice and feel "off" with it engaged. There may be some processing that requires lookahead to achieve polyphony, so this might be a necessary evil if you need an octave-down effect on chords. I never do and I also don't like the sound of that processing block, so for me it's a non-issue but I wanted to mention it. Lastly on octaves; The tracking is incredible. Better even than digital octave pedals I've used in the past like various POG iterations and what's included in Helix. The tracking is glitch-free and capable of sustaining notes far lower than I ever use an octave-down effect to play. Really top notch execution in the tracking department. I have an MTD that I play in one band and my 3Leaf Octabvre struggles to track the Bb on the D string where that bass has this weird dead spot. That's not a fault of the 3Leaf pedal at all, it's just a wonky spot on that MTD that I have to accommodate when using it. I'm going to try it into the Anagram tomorrow to see how it fares given how impressive the tracking was with my Dingwall. I doubt it will be able to track it meaningfully, but I was so impressed I simply have to try it.

As for other effects, outside of distortions and envelop filters, which I'll talk about separately, I really only ever use the occasional chorus and reverb. The Mint Chocolate chorus sounds nice with the depth set around 5.0 and the rate down around 1.25khz. It's not quite as nice sounding as my Analogman Mini Chorus with the deep mod, but unlike the Analogman the Mint Chorus doesn't come with a built-in volume jump. It's a chorus that sounds nice and achieves unity gain when engaged. For the limited amount I use a chorus pedal I'll happily deal with slightly lower effect quality for one that doesn't all of a sudden at 2-3db to my output volume. The reverbs all generally sound nice as do the delays. The only use I have for reverb is on gigs where I'm playing an electric upright. A little reverb helps an EUB sound a bit more like an acoustic upright. Tomorrow I'm going to try building a patch for EUB gigs with a split to only apply reverb to the upper midrange and higher frequencies while leaving the bottom end dry. I think the room reverb processing block will sound really nice for this application. I never use delay, but I will say that the delays all sounded great with my preference being the digital delay for it's precision and how clean the repeats are.

Envelope filters... they're... sigh... they're trash. I hate them. The Mu-Tron'ish one and the Moog'ish one. I don't know what to say. The filter action is unresponsive in all but the most extreme of settings. The filter sounds are either bloated and muddy or overly thin and plinky sounding. I rarely need an envelop filter. In fact, of all my gigs there's only one band where I use one and it's in a solo feature where I could easily omit it and be just fine. I typically use a 3Leaf Proton mkIV for this task and it sounds incredible. I hated the envelope filters in the HX Stomp and have heard that the ones in the Quad Cortex are also awful. I was hoping the Anagram would be better, but I could not get anything usable out of either block. Tomorrow I'll explore some of the factory and user presets from the Darkglass Suite to see if I'm just misunderstanding the settings, but something tells me I'm just not going to be a fan.

Distortion pedals are tough. I always struggle with them. Generally speaking the overdrive that's consistently worked well for me is the B3K. I currently have a B1K on my analog board and it works great. It's well voiced for bass, and even though it has a reputation of being this rock and metal de facto sound, I use it in my RnB, pop, soul, funk, etc. contexts all the time and it works great. The version in the Anagram sounds like the hardware one to me. Good enough. Moving on. I've own the VMT in the past and didn't like the way it softened the attack of notes. The Anagram version does the same, although arguably feels a bit more usable than the actual pedal it's emulating, so in this case I think I like the Anagram version more than the real one. I've never owned an Alpha-Omega/Omicron, but if they're anything like the Anagram model I wouldn't like them anyway. Not for me. I've owned the small verison of the X pedal and the Anagram version feels like a good recreation. It's not a sound I prefer, but overall it's probably my second favorite Darkglass distortion sound. Usable, just not my thing. I've owned a Duality before and the Anagram version sounds a little more gated and synthy than the actual pedal. I think I prefer the sound of the Anagram version as it's more like my 3Leaf Doom2 than the Duality pedal to my ears. Not quite as interesting sounding as the Doom2, but it'll do in a pinch. The Anagram version felt very touchy to changes in input level. I don't remember if that was the case on the actual pedal or not. Either way, it's passable and may have uses for me in low gain applications paired with a 100% wet octave to generate synth tones. The Chinchilla sucks. I hate it. Maybe in a crossover split it would be better, but I didn't bother. It's not for me. I've never really gotten along with Rat-based distortions, so this is no surprise.

The biggest problem I've got with the Anagram is something I also didn't like about the HX Stomp, which is the introduction of audible inharmonic content. This occurs with two specific processes; The pitch shifting block, and non-linear processes (aka various forms of distortion). I'm not sure if these are introducing harmonic content that exceeds Nyquist thus resulting in aliasing that folds down into the audible spectrum inharmonically to the sound source or what, but once you hear it you can't unhear it. The Anagram operates internally at a sample rate of 48khz, which puts Nyquist up at 24khz. I'm not sure how Darkglass implemented their anti-aliasing filter, but if aliasing is the cause of these inharmonic sounds, an oversampling option for processing blocks that introduce non-linearities could be a nice inclusion. A harmonic series generated by a bass guitar, even a bright one, has to be pretty significant to generate content above 24khz resulting in aliasing and inharmonic audible fold down, so I'm not convinced that aliasing is actually the culprit, but I have no other ideas as to what could be the source of this with two digital pedals from two wholly separate manufacturers. Curiously, with the HX Stomp it was more noticeable in my IEMs and less noticeable in my cabs, but with the Anagram it was the opposite. When testing through my NV115 I could hear it clearly, particularly on the pitch shifter, but also on the various distortions once the saturation was set high enough. When I switched to my IEMs it was improved but not totally eliminated. Again, the HX Stomp was the opposite in this regard. With no pitch shifter block or distortion is't a complete non-issue. Once they're introduced it becomes a guessing game as to whether I can deal with it or not. If anything causes me to sell the Anagram it will be this. It made me sell my HX Stomp, so I wouldn't be surprised if it kills my desire to keep the Anagram. Only time will tell.

Speaking of the pitch shifter; It worked well enough in terms of tracking and lowering my bass from E standard to Eb standard, which is a function I was hoping to utilize with a band I play in occasionally. Their entire set is in E standard except for one song where they switch guitars to Eb standard. I never want to bring two basses and don't want to bother tuning all of my strings down, so I just play it up an octave (i.e. sixth fret of the A string for the root), but it really does sound better tuned down a semitone. The problem is the introduction of inharmonic content as described in the previous paragraph. It was so present through my NV115 that it was unusable. Through my IEMs it was mitigated to some degree, but still present. The band where I want that functionality doesn't use IEMs, so unless I can figure out a way to eliminate the inharmonic content it won't be an option.

Last, but not least an interesting note about the compressors. I did not try the limiter as I've never met a limiter I liked. I tried the Hyper Luminal (FET) compressor and found that no matter the setting, I could not hear any audible compression occurring. I set the compressor for a 20:1 ratio with the fastest attack and slowest release possible, then cranked the input control and nothing changed. Thinking that perhaps the compressor worked by lowering the input control, thus marking it more of a threshold control, I tried the opposite approach and the results remained unchanged. Frustrated, I switched to the Buss Compressor which I assume is some sort of VCA emulation like what you'd find on an SSL console. I set the compression ratio to the maximum setting of 10:1, the fastest attack, the shortest release, and lowered the threshold control to the bottom so that ANY signal entering the block would trigger the compression. This sounded like it was doing something, but nowhere near what a 10:1 compressor should sound like with a -40db threshold in place. I recorded a loop into the Anagram and then sent the output into Logic to get a visual representation of what I described above. I've included a screenshot of that below with the various settings described in the track header.

My compressor conclusions:
  • The 'No Comp' track (blue) has no compressor processing block inserted into the Anagram at all.
  • The Luminal default settings, and then both of the input/output min/max versions are all shockingly close. So close that there's no way a 20:1 compression ratio was being applied. It's as if this compressor does nothing. I could not get it to null against the 'No Comp' version, so either it's doing something very subtle outside of compression, or I wasn't perfectly time-aligning the two tracks despite zooming into to sample levels of visibility for time alignment. Regardless, in my testing, the Hyper Luminal provided zero actual compression. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. At this point I wouldn't even call it a compressor. I'll do more testing and would be happy to learn that I'm using the Hyper Luminal wrong, but as an audio engineer I feel well qualified to navigate a compressor. Still, I've done dumber things, so if anyone can clarify how to get this thing to actually compress I'd love to hear it. For now, it's simply a compressor in name only, not at all in function.
  • The buss compressor with a threshold setting of -40db at 10:1 provides clearly visible compression, but to my ears it sounded nothing like a 10:1 compressor. The last track in the last uses a Fabfilter C2 compressor in Logic with identical settings and it makes a visible difference in the level of compression and it actually sounds like 10:1 compression. Fabfilter C2 measures perfectly in Plugin Doctor, so I know that it's actually providing a 10:1 ratio. The Anagram's Buss compressor is at least doing something, as compared to Hyper Luminal which is not compressing at all, but despite the 10:1 option, it is not in fact providing 10:1 compression but rather something less than that.
  • Ultimately I went with the Buss compressor set for maximum squash, or rather as much maximum squash it's capable of which is very limited, and then set the blend to 65% and was happy enough with the result.
  • The Hyper Luminal is useless, the Buss is fine enough but pretty underwhelming, and both absolutely stink when compared to my Keely Compressor Pro which sounds better, has more pleasing compressor attack/release and knee characteristics, as well as also providing believable levels of gain reduction with visible metering.
  • Darkglass really needs to implement gain reduction metering in the Anagram. People have been screaming for it with the HX Stomp for years, so it's a real oversight on the part of Darkglass to omit such an often-requested feature from arguably their biggest competitor.
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So there we go. An overly long-winded post of mostly positives, some middling bits, and a few outright negatives. Time will tell for me and the Anagram. I really want to like it. I hope the negatives don't win out. More testing and verbose opinions to come in the next few days. To be continued...
Excellent, thoughtful, analytical. Appreciated. A few days ago I did my first several hour sit down with the Anagram and I recall quickly noting, similar to you:
1. The Darkglass Harmonic Booster sounds great.
2. The Fender amp sounds great.
3. I could hear no effect from the compressor.
4. The Duality fuzz in gated fuzz mode was a pleasant surprise.
5. But.... I liked the Octaver (I do not prefer the OC-2 sound in general).
6. I did not locate a nice always-on touch sensitive low gain drive, like the DCX Bass or Tone Hammer/AGS. The Alpha with drive at minimum was close.
7. I steer clear of cab sims. The only one I ever cared for was the analog Origin BassRig Super Vintage 8x10.
 
3. I could hear no effect from the compressor.
I did more testing on this today. The Hyper Luminal compressor does not actually compress the signal at all. Regardless of input level, including putting a maxed out gain block in front of it, no adjustment to the input, output, attack, or release setting would generate any gain reduction, even when set to the 20:1 maximum ratio setting. I also tested it on the lower ratios, as well as the "all" setting which typically results in a compression ratio of around 12:1 with out of spec attack and release times on an actual 1176.

The Hyper Luminal block needs attention from Darkglass. It does not do the job it's designed to do. It does impart some tone color, but very little, and regardless a compressor that doesn't compress shouldn't be called a compressor at all.
 
I was able to get stomp mode to register two blocks from a single footswitch. This isn't well described in the manual, but when you edit the bindings for each footswitch there's a little + icon that you can use to add another block. This creates a macro for that footswitch which you can rename just like if you were controlling a single block. Within that macro you can control which parameter of each block gets controlled by the footswitch. You can even add more than two blocks to a macro. I'm not sure what the upper limit for that would be. In my case I added a noise gate after an instance of a B3K to clean up the low level hiss from running the B3K at a higher gain setting with a lower blend, which is my usual approach. Very nice results from this combination.
 
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Sorry for the scattered posts...

I also tried using the effects loop return as an aux input. This is a common need for me, particularly on road and fly dates. I somewhat frequently find myself sitting in a hotel room the night before a gig needing to work out new material from charts that were given to me very near the actual gig date. A viable headphone solution with an aux in helps a lot in these situations. I didn't want the output of my iPhone to be processed by all of the stuff in my preset chain. My first thought was to stick an effects loop block at the very end of my chain, but this resulted in either the sound from my phone being audible with the block engaged, or the sound of my bass being audible with the block disengaged, but there was no way to have both be audible simultaneously. It's entirely possible that I was doing something wrong, but I did find another solution. I used a split block at the very end of my chain, then in the lower row I placed the effects loop block with the send level at 0, and then a merge block after the split block in the top row brought the return signal back to the output. This worked great, but it was a bit fiddly and did require some tweaking of various output levels to get everything working properly. I'm guessing there's a better way to do this that I'll get figured out at some point, but for now it was definitely possible to send the output of my iPhone into the Anagram without that output being processed by the preset chain, and then hearing it along with the processed sound of my bass.
 
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Initial testing with the Anagram is done. Before starting I updated both Darkglass Suite and the Anagram firmware to current versions. First impressions are not as glowing as seemingly everyone else that owns one, but it's a net positive. I'm undecided at this point if I'll keep it or not. Here are my, admittedly, scattered thoughts based on two scenarios:
  1. Dingwall Super J (3X SF2 pickups, Glockenklang preamp set flat, new'ish Dingwall nickel roundwounds) into the Anagram, then into a Trickfish Bullhead 1K powering a Bergantino NV115. I'll repeat this one tomorrow into a Trickfish TF212V cabinet which has a tweeter, unlike the Bergantino.
  2. Same bass as above into the Anagram with my IEMs connected to the headphone jack (64 Audio N8 custom IEMs).

The most impressive feature of this unit is how successfully Darkglass implemented unity gain from processing block to block, and similarly how well calibrated input and output settings are. If you add a value of X to the input control and then subtract the same value of X from the output the net output from the block remains shockingly consistent. This is implemented much better than on the HX Stomp and on basically any analog pedal I've ever owned. Really nicely done.

The general GUI and user experience of the pedal is very good. I see what some people have mentioned about the touchscreen not being the most responsive thing on the planet, but to me it works just fine provided you're making deliberate and smooth movements. If you attempt to flick your way through things it won't work well, but slow down a little, be more explicit in how you make screen decisions and it works well.

The granularity of the six control knobs leaves a lot to be desired. They seem calibrated to favor making big moves and struggle when making small moves. Not a huge deal as in most cases with this pedal, differences of tenths don't matter to a huge degree, whereas differences of half an integer do make a noticeable difference and are within the range of control for the knobs. If you want to tweak down to the tenth you'll likely struggle.

There's been much discussion about latency with this unit as well as other modelers. As I knew going in, it's a complete and utter non-issue. Yes, there is latency as there is with all digital units, as well as with all airborne transmission of audio since there's no getting around physics and the speed of sound is around 1ms per foot (not super accurate, but close enough depending on elevation and relative humidity as they relate to air density). Don't sweat the latency. It's not a factor worth considering.

The amps are an interesting flavor. As others have noted, they really only modeled the frequency response characteristics of the amps they've included. There's no means of saturating or overdriving an amp. If you want those characteristics you have to add one of the overdrive/distortion/fuzz pedals before or after the amp, which rarely feels like the same thing. For my needs as a predominantly RnB, soul, funk, pop, jazz bassist that's fine as I typically prefer a clean amp with the option to turn on an overdrive pedal when needed. I almost never need an always on drive like you'd get from a pushed tube amp, but for those that play in more rock and metal contexts this could be a downside for them.

Of the amps I found that I liked the Harmonic Booster the best, especially with the character knob somewhere in the 2.5-3.5 range and the blend around 50-65%. Just enough color to be interesting, but still enough of the dry DI signal to retain the character and all-important midrange of my bass. I was surprised by how much I liked the Leo (Fender) amp. I really disliked the Gentle (Noble) for it's odd midrange voicing and the Peggy (Ampeg) which felt bloated down low and pingy up top in a very unpleasant way. The Super California (Mesa, I think) was okay but didn't blow me away. It felt a bit like a less impressive Leo, but in a mix it might have faired a bit better as the Leo has a noticeable scoop to the midrange. The Jim (Marshall) really surprised me. In demos I've not been impressed with it, but it actually sounds quite nice. It might be my second favorite of the factory amps. I'll do more testing with it. The Kallinen Kruukkeri (GK) amp was a mixed bag. With the mid contour turned on it sounded thin and overly crispy up top. With it turned off it sounded uninteresting and kind of honky in the midrange. It's not an amp for me, but I could see it working well in a number of contexts outside of my usual work. I was surprised as I've owned many GK amps over the years and generally get along well with their tone stack.

All of the factory cab models sounded awful to me. Well... the Mountaintino 610 (Bergantino NV610) sounded okay, but had some noticeable bloat going on down low. The artist cabs also had some garbage, but the Nolly captures sounded great. Not surprisingly given how great he is at developing tones. I ended up really liking the Nolly Blend a lot. I'll be sticking with that for the moment. I have the Shiftline IR pack from when I was an HX Stomp user and there were a couple of IRs in there that I really liked. Tomorrow I'll load those into the Anagram and see if any can beat the Nolly Blend IR. Currently running the Nolly Blend at about 50-65% really does the trick of sounding like the best of a cab IR and a dry DI.

I didn't think the high pass filter was going to offer anything exciting, but to my surprise it included a -6db/oct setting, which is something I always really enjoy. I like setting the filter frequency up in the 65-80hz range depending on the gig, but sometimes with a -12db/oct slope that can gut the bottom end a bit more than I'd like so I end up having to roll it down into the 40hz range which can cause interference with the kick drum on certain gigs. A -6db/oct setting let's me set the filter higher, but still retain just enough bottom end to fill out the mix without totally clashing with the kick drum.

Of the octaves I greatly preferred the Sublemon. It was the most OC-2'ish, which is really my home base when it comes to octave pedals. It sounded somewhere between just okay and decent doing the typical 50/50 Sledgehammer type tone. The other two octaves sounded pretty bad doing the 50/50 thing to my ears. The filter cutoff frequency control can be used to generate some Mantic Hulk type tones or to make the octaves sound more crunchy, but in general I think Darkglass did a good job of tuning where the midpoint setting (5.0) places the filter cutoff. Disappointingly I thought all of the octaves did a poor job of doing the Tim Lefebvre and Janek Gwizdala 100% set OC-2 sound. No matter the settings I could not emulate that type of sound effectively. It's not a sound I need often, but I do have gigs where it's called for and in those instances I'd be forced to either bring my 3Leaf Octabvre or to just deal with a bad sounding version of it from the Anagram. Also of note, when I engaged Subcitri, the polyphonic octaver, I could detect noticeable latency through my IEMs. Not bad enough to make me unable to play tight to a groove, but enough for me to notice and feel "off" with it engaged. There may be some processing that requires lookahead to achieve polyphony, so this might be a necessary evil if you need an octave-down effect on chords. I never do and I also don't like the sound of that processing block, so for me it's a non-issue but I wanted to mention it. Lastly on octaves; The tracking is incredible. Better even than digital octave pedals I've used in the past like various POG iterations and what's included in Helix. The tracking is glitch-free and capable of sustaining notes far lower than I ever use an octave-down effect to play. Really top notch execution in the tracking department. I have an MTD that I play in one band and my 3Leaf Octabvre struggles to track the Bb on the D string where that bass has this weird dead spot. That's not a fault of the 3Leaf pedal at all, it's just a wonky spot on that MTD that I have to accommodate when using it. I'm going to try it into the Anagram tomorrow to see how it fares given how impressive the tracking was with my Dingwall. I doubt it will be able to track it meaningfully, but I was so impressed I simply have to try it.

As for other effects, outside of distortions and envelop filters, which I'll talk about separately, I really only ever use the occasional chorus and reverb. The Mint Chocolate chorus sounds nice with the depth set around 5.0 and the rate down around 1.25khz. It's not quite as nice sounding as my Analogman Mini Chorus with the deep mod, but unlike the Analogman the Mint Chorus doesn't come with a built-in volume jump. It's a chorus that sounds nice and achieves unity gain when engaged. For the limited amount I use a chorus pedal I'll happily deal with slightly lower effect quality for one that doesn't all of a sudden at 2-3db to my output volume. The reverbs all generally sound nice as do the delays. The only use I have for reverb is on gigs where I'm playing an electric upright. A little reverb helps an EUB sound a bit more like an acoustic upright. Tomorrow I'm going to try building a patch for EUB gigs with a split to only apply reverb to the upper midrange and higher frequencies while leaving the bottom end dry. I think the room reverb processing block will sound really nice for this application. I never use delay, but I will say that the delays all sounded great with my preference being the digital delay for it's precision and how clean the repeats are.

Envelope filters... they're... sigh... they're trash. I hate them. The Mu-Tron'ish one and the Moog'ish one. I don't know what to say. The filter action is unresponsive in all but the most extreme of settings. The filter sounds are either bloated and muddy or overly thin and plinky sounding. I rarely need an envelop filter. In fact, of all my gigs there's only one band where I use one and it's in a solo feature where I could easily omit it and be just fine. I typically use a 3Leaf Proton mkIV for this task and it sounds incredible. I hated the envelope filters in the HX Stomp and have heard that the ones in the Quad Cortex are also awful. I was hoping the Anagram would be better, but I could not get anything usable out of either block. Tomorrow I'll explore some of the factory and user presets from the Darkglass Suite to see if I'm just misunderstanding the settings, but something tells me I'm just not going to be a fan.

Distortion pedals are tough. I always struggle with them. Generally speaking the overdrive that's consistently worked well for me is the B3K. I currently have a B1K on my analog board and it works great. It's well voiced for bass, and even though it has a reputation of being this rock and metal de facto sound, I use it in my RnB, pop, soul, funk, etc. contexts all the time and it works great. The version in the Anagram sounds like the hardware one to me. Good enough. Moving on. I've own the VMT in the past and didn't like the way it softened the attack of notes. The Anagram version does the same, although arguably feels a bit more usable than the actual pedal it's emulating, so in this case I think I like the Anagram version more than the real one. I've never owned an Alpha-Omega/Omicron, but if they're anything like the Anagram model I wouldn't like them anyway. Not for me. I've owned the small verison of the X pedal and the Anagram version feels like a good recreation. It's not a sound I prefer, but overall it's probably my second favorite Darkglass distortion sound. Usable, just not my thing. I've owned a Duality before and the Anagram version sounds a little more gated and synthy than the actual pedal. I think I prefer the sound of the Anagram version as it's more like my 3Leaf Doom2 than the Duality pedal to my ears. Not quite as interesting sounding as the Doom2, but it'll do in a pinch. The Anagram version felt very touchy to changes in input level. I don't remember if that was the case on the actual pedal or not. Either way, it's passable and may have uses for me in low gain applications paired with a 100% wet octave to generate synth tones. The Chinchilla sucks. I hate it. Maybe in a crossover split it would be better, but I didn't bother. It's not for me. I've never really gotten along with Rat-based distortions, so this is no surprise.

The biggest problem I've got with the Anagram is something I also didn't like about the HX Stomp, which is the introduction of audible inharmonic content. This occurs with two specific processes; The pitch shifting block, and non-linear processes (aka various forms of distortion). I'm not sure if these are introducing harmonic content that exceeds Nyquist thus resulting in aliasing that folds down into the audible spectrum inharmonically to the sound source or what, but once you hear it you can't unhear it. The Anagram operates internally at a sample rate of 48khz, which puts Nyquist up at 24khz. I'm not sure how Darkglass implemented their anti-aliasing filter, but if aliasing is the cause of these inharmonic sounds, an oversampling option for processing blocks that introduce non-linearities could be a nice inclusion. A harmonic series generated by a bass guitar, even a bright one, has to be pretty significant to generate content above 24khz resulting in aliasing and inharmonic audible fold down, so I'm not convinced that aliasing is actually the culprit, but I have no other ideas as to what could be the source of this with two digital pedals from two wholly separate manufacturers. Curiously, with the HX Stomp it was more noticeable in my IEMs and less noticeable in my cabs, but with the Anagram it was the opposite. When testing through my NV115 I could hear it clearly, particularly on the pitch shifter, but also on the various distortions once the saturation was set high enough. When I switched to my IEMs it was improved but not totally eliminated. Again, the HX Stomp was the opposite in this regard. With no pitch shifter block or distortion is't a complete non-issue. Once they're introduced it becomes a guessing game as to whether I can deal with it or not. If anything causes me to sell the Anagram it will be this. It made me sell my HX Stomp, so I wouldn't be surprised if it kills my desire to keep the Anagram. Only time will tell.

Speaking of the pitch shifter; It worked well enough in terms of tracking and lowering my bass from E standard to Eb standard, which is a function I was hoping to utilize with a band I play in occasionally. Their entire set is in E standard except for one song where they switch guitars to Eb standard. I never want to bring two basses and don't want to bother tuning all of my strings down, so I just play it up an octave (i.e. sixth fret of the A string for the root), but it really does sound better tuned down a semitone. The problem is the introduction of inharmonic content as described in the previous paragraph. It was so present through my NV115 that it was unusable. Through my IEMs it was mitigated to some degree, but still present. The band where I want that functionality doesn't use IEMs, so unless I can figure out a way to eliminate the inharmonic content it won't be an option.

Last, but not least an interesting note about the compressors. I did not try the limiter as I've never met a limiter I liked. I tried the Hyper Luminal (FET) compressor and found that no matter the setting, I could not hear any audible compression occurring. I set the compressor for a 20:1 ratio with the fastest attack and slowest release possible, then cranked the input control and nothing changed. Thinking that perhaps the compressor worked by lowering the input control, thus marking it more of a threshold control, I tried the opposite approach and the results remained unchanged. Frustrated, I switched to the Buss Compressor which I assume is some sort of VCA emulation like what you'd find on an SSL console. I set the compression ratio to the maximum setting of 10:1, the fastest attack, the shortest release, and lowered the threshold control to the bottom so that ANY signal entering the block would trigger the compression. This sounded like it was doing something, but nowhere near what a 10:1 compressor should sound like with a -40db threshold in place. I recorded a loop into the Anagram and then sent the output into Logic to get a visual representation of what I described above. I've included a screenshot of that below with the various settings described in the track header.

My compressor conclusions:
  • The 'No Comp' track (blue) has no compressor processing block inserted into the Anagram at all.
  • The Luminal default settings, and then both of the input/output min/max versions are all shockingly close. So close that there's no way a 20:1 compression ratio was being applied. It's as if this compressor does nothing. I could not get it to null against the 'No Comp' version, so either it's doing something very subtle outside of compression, or I wasn't perfectly time-aligning the two tracks despite zooming into to sample levels of visibility for time alignment. Regardless, in my testing, the Hyper Luminal provided zero actual compression. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. At this point I wouldn't even call it a compressor. I'll do more testing and would be happy to learn that I'm using the Hyper Luminal wrong, but as an audio engineer I feel well qualified to navigate a compressor. Still, I've done dumber things, so if anyone can clarify how to get this thing to actually compress I'd love to hear it. For now, it's simply a compressor in name only, not at all in function.
  • The buss compressor with a threshold setting of -40db at 10:1 provides clearly visible compression, but to my ears it sounded nothing like a 10:1 compressor. The last track in the last uses a Fabfilter C2 compressor in Logic with identical settings and it makes a visible difference in the level of compression and it actually sounds like 10:1 compression. Fabfilter C2 measures perfectly in Plugin Doctor, so I know that it's actually providing a 10:1 ratio. The Anagram's Buss compressor is at least doing something, as compared to Hyper Luminal which is not compressing at all, but despite the 10:1 option, it is not in fact providing 10:1 compression but rather something less than that.
  • Ultimately I went with the Buss compressor set for maximum squash, or rather as much maximum squash it's capable of which is very limited, and then set the blend to 65% and was happy enough with the result.
  • The Hyper Luminal is useless, the Buss is fine enough but pretty underwhelming, and both absolutely stink when compared to my Keely Compressor Pro which sounds better, has more pleasing compressor attack/release and knee characteristics, as well as also providing believable levels of gain reduction with visible metering.
  • Darkglass really needs to implement gain reduction metering in the Anagram. People have been screaming for it with the HX Stomp for years, so it's a real oversight on the part of Darkglass to omit such an often-requested feature from arguably their biggest competitor.
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So there we go. An overly long-winded post of mostly positives, some middling bits, and a few outright negatives. Time will tell for me and the Anagram. I really want to like it. I hope the negatives don't win out. More testing and verbose opinions to come in the next few days. To be continued...
hmmm. very interesting and in depth review.

While it's difficult to really asses my needs compared to any other reviewers, your history is solid here on TB and so carries some weight. Given all the over-the-top glowing reviews of this device it's interesting to hear your input. Maybe there is more new-toy hoopla involved than I originally thought.

I'm feeling like I will cancel my SW pre-order on the Anagram and see how this all plays out. My use case definitely requires solid Filter and Octave options, and I do use Compression (currently the 1176ish version that the Cali76CB provides). Other than the pedal foot dance issue, which I don't love, but am managing ok, I am very happy with my tone for live and session work. My primary tools being the Cali76 into a Noble, and then Octave, Filter and some Distortion/OD as needed. As I have already said, I'm also a bit of a skeptic when the whole bass world goes ballistic on a device, even when there are features that are important but are in the "coming soon" category.

given all that, I am usually an N+1 adopter, so I feel like I can let the initial craze over this box pass and see how DarkGlass advances the Anagram over a bit more time.

thanks Silky
 
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your history is solid here on TB and so carries some weight
Where's the blushing emoji when I need it? :roflmao:

My use case definitely requires solid Filter and Octave options
I need to do more testing today, but my initial impression of the envelope filters still holds true in that they're awful. I tried all of the included user and factory presets, and whenever an envelope filter was used it still sounds awful. I tried massively increasing the gain going into the envelope filters in the hope that it would create more usable filter action, but I still hate them. My envelope filter needs are minimal, so I'll just keep my 3Leaf Proton mkIV sitting around for the rare occasion that I need that sound

As for octaves; I still don't like the Sublime and Subcitri blocks at all. I did a little tweaking on the Sublemon and ended up with a very usable 50/50 type of sound. It doesn't sound at all like an OC-2, but the tracking is so alarmingly good that I can live with it for gigging purposes and will keep my Tim-tuned 3Leaf Octabvre mkI for studio purposes when that sound is called for. I still could not get a good Lefebvre/Gwizdala OC-2 with the -1 octave solo sound out of the Anagram, which is disappointing.

I do use Compression (currently the 1176ish version that the Cali76CB provides)
The compressors are disappointing, but I suspect they'll be fixed by Darkglass. The Hyper Luminal doesn't compress at all, which I think is clearly just a bug that needs to be worked out, so it should be a short term issue rather than anything longer term. The Buss compressor sounds just okay to me, but as my testing revealed it does not compress to the levels it claims. Still, if I set Buss to its maximum possible squash setting and blend it down to 50-65% it does the job well enough. It's not going to win any compressor awards, but it's serviceable. I'll throw my Anagram into my reamp chain in the studio and send the output into Plugin Doctor's standalone mode later to properly test the dynamics processing of each block.

As I have already said, I'm also a bit of a skeptic when the whole bass world goes ballistic on a device
A wise position for sure. I only jumped on it because I've been going through some pedalboard woes with my current analog setup, and I'm just kinda over it with large boards on gigs where the tone isn't being recorded. As of this morning I'm about 75% certain I'll keep Anagram for that purpose, but I'm not sure how much studio work it will see.

thanks Silky
Glad my ramblings have been helpful!
 
I have a difficult time hearing the effect on any compressor.
You're not alone in this. Even as an audio engineer I sometimes struggle. My usual move is to intentionally make a compressor work too had and get mega squashy to have a good audible reference to its character, and then back it down to something reasonable and compare against it in bypass. When I couldn't get either of Anagram's compressors to provide meaningful levels of squash I knew something was up. Plugin Doctor will tell me more later today when I get that setup for further testing.
 

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