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Dingwall Owners Club

Yup. For me, if I need muting in a song, I'm probably playing with a pick and palm muting. Even fingerstyle I'll pluck with my thumb and palm mute.
A perfect example is when my band plays Satriani "Flying in a Blue Dream", a lot of that song is palm muted w/pick. Although it's in F so no open strings. LOL
We all have our "styles" of playing, and we all play different music. If you are giving your all to make the song sound it's best and getting it done; you're golden.

Yep. I don't generally play with a pick, and I've got my fretting and plucking together that stuff that people would assume is palm muted isn't.
 
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I think it's more genre specific. I was taught to avoid open strings in rock and popular music (whatever that is!), but in jazz it was okay.

Of course, open low E and B are the exceptions.
Hmmm... put that way, I think B&E are what I play open the most, A some, D&G rarely ever. Ha! Never really thought about it till now.
 
I think it's more genre specific. I was taught to avoid open strings in rock and popular music (whatever that is!), but in jazz it was okay.

Of course, open low E and B are the exceptions.

Especially on a Dingwall. I hit the low E and A-string octave on my Z2 at the start of one of our songs as the first of a series of double-stops, and it's just phenomenal. It eclipses any open string ring I've ever heard on any of my other basses, and--for me--the opening chords in Time and the multiple-piano ending chord of A Day In The Life (gibberish optional). Probably the same "hand of G-d" that @jaco944 is experiencing.
 
Hmmm... put that way, I think B&E are what I play open the most, A some, D&G rarely ever. Ha! Never really thought about it till now.


My Jazz teacher told me to use the open strings wherever you can, as sometimes its easier to grab an open string than make a stretch to the fretted note of that string, and I learned both ways, but in rock/metal, I just think it sounds more solid/better with a fretted note of that open string that you were going to go for. Of course my Jazz teacher plays a stand up bass with 3 fingers and probably never heard of Queesryche or FFDP.
 
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Finally got my 4 string Whalepool Blue Combustion today. I play with only ever a pick and I knew that the neck pickup was right smack dab in the middle of where I land with the pick 100% of the time. I had this fear before I bought it and was exploring all options of moving that pickup back right next to the bridge one, but even there I would still hit it. So I leveled it with the pick guard. No need for it to be in my way. The bass sounds great no matter what knobs are turned or if the preamp is on or off, it really does. After buying the Source Audio SA270 EQ pedal the other day I have come to realize that I can fix any sound I want with that pedal alone. So the Dingwall preamp stays off, and the pickup selector for me stays on both pickups in series. The difference of tone because of the depth of the pickup that I sank flush was easily corrected back to normal with the EQ pedal para-metrics. I cant tell any difference, still sounds killer. There is something special about this bass. I never ever had that 'clanky clangy' sound from my Jackson JS2 or JS3, nor my Fender Jazz bass. This Dingwall just emanates that beautiful clank, or whatever it is, and I like it. The bass looks the color it is because of the UV lights, I dont know what color it looks, but it is the beautiful Whale color.

Had a little problem when I first plugged in, only the active position could be heard out of my amp. When switched to passive, absolutely no sound. Turns out I cant use my angle amp cord jack in it, only a straight one. So what do you use for a stand for your bass that the one bar doesn't but right up against the jack?

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My Jazz teacher told me to use the open strings wherever you can, as sometimes its easier to grab an open string than make a stretch to the fretted note of that string, and I learned both ways, but in rock/metal, I just think it sounds more solid/better with a fretted note of that open string that you were going to go for. Of course my Jazz teacher plays a stand up bass with 3 fingers and probably never heard of Queesryche or FFDP.

Using open strings to make things easier is a philosophy adhered to by many upright bass players. Is that where your teacher is pulling from?

I definitely follow that approach on upright unless I need a sustained note with vibrato. On electric I try to play whatever sounds tonally similar to the surrounding notes, which usually only includes long notes on the open B and E.
 
My Jazz teacher told me to use the open strings wherever you can, as sometimes its easier to grab an open string than make a stretch to the fretted note of that string, and I learned both ways, but in rock/metal, I just think it sounds more solid/better with a fretted note of that open string that you were going to go for. Of course my Jazz teacher plays a stand up bass with 3 fingers and probably never heard of Queesryche or FFDP.
I always use open strings if I can. Sometimes you're playing "shaped" stuff higher up on the neck and open strings would complicate things, but, for the most part, I like them as it gives me a chance to reposition if needed.

Besides, I think open strings just sound so, so much better than the fretted counterpart.
 
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Using open strings to make things easier is a philosophy adhered to by many upright bass players. Is that where your teacher is pulling from?

I definitely follow that approach on upright unless I need a sustained note with vibrato. On electric I try to play whatever sounds tonally similar to the surrounding notes, which usually only includes long notes on the open B and E.

Yes, my previous teacher is an upright bass player and *used* to play cabarets and other places here in Vegas, of course before the virus business. I specifically chose him for lessons because I wanted to learn his playing approach and style of music, as I can figure out the rock/metal myself. I can tell already that a lot of my playing is going to change a bit based on this new Dingwall bass. The open strings on this thing ring out so pretty that's its a shame not to play them more rather than always going to the fret that equals an open string. What a complete difference from my Jackson's I have.
 
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Had a little problem when I first plugged in, only the active position could be heard out of my amp. When switched to passive, absolutely no sound. Turns out I cant use my angle amp cord jack in it, only a straight one. So what do you use for a stand for your bass that the one bar doesn't but right up against the jack?

Don’t leave it plugged in when you’re not playing as it will drain the battery even if you’re switched to passive is tip number one this will solve your stand problem for $0 ;)
If you need a stand to hold it while you’re plugged in an just stepping away for a minute then the Hercules stand that grips by the headstock is the one to go for, but it’s pretty expensive.
 
Yes, my previous teacher is an upright bass player and *used* to play cabarets and other places here in Vegas, of course before the virus business. I specifically chose him for lessons because I wanted to learn his playing approach and style of music, as I can figure out the rock/metal myself. I can tell already that a lot of my playing is going to change a bit based on this new Dingwall bass. The open strings on this thing ring out so pretty that's its a shame not to play them more rather than always going to the fret that equals an open string. What a complete difference from my Jackson's I have.

For stage I use:
Single stand:
GS414B PLUS

Double stand:
GS422B PLUS

And at home I have both wall hangers and a rack that holds 6.