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#41,801
IronSean said:
You can reach out to a Dingwall dealer or Dingwall themselves for pricing. It was $200 Canadian last I checked, they give you a third pickup, a new pickguard, and a new 6-way rotary which is built for their 3 pickup configuration. On your combustion it should change the Bridge/Neck Series setting to be Bridge/Middle series and everything else would be the same.



Usually it's because the "sound" of a type of bass often has to do with the pickup placement and wiring. A P-bass is a split-coil closer to the neck in series for boosted low mids. A jazz bass is a bridge and neck pickup wired in parallel to blend between. A musicman is a bridge humbucker usually wired in parallel but sometimes switchable to series.

So when thinking about a 3x dingwall with 3 pickups in a row, you can cop some of those combinations.

Bridge solo, Middle solo, and Neck solo are just pickup sounds at those positions. Not unlike a Jazz with pickups there. But their pickups are all split coils too, so you can go series/parallel inside the pickup. Neck only or middle only in series might get you more like your P bass tone.

Neck and Bridge in parallel is like your Jazz configuration, since that's what the blend sound of a J-bass is like.

Bridge and middle in parallel is closer to the two parallel coils of a Musicman, and series is more like a MM pickup in series (purely based on placement and wiring).

And if you have series/parallel switches on all three pickups you can vary those too.

But so basically:
Bridge/Neck parallel - Jazz bass pickup arrangement
Bridge middle parallel/series - MM pickup arrangement (usually parallel, but some were switchable.

Then the individual pickups might have placements similar to other basses, like Jazz Bridge or neck for bridge or neck, P-bass placement is somewhere in there. Middle might be like the neck on a warwick thumb, etc.
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Spend the $90 like I did and get the pickguard that puts both pickups at the rear. Then you will have your middle pickup to rest your thumb.
 
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#41,802
japhy4529 said:
It's not that I don't like the DG, pre, but I have to say that it's has a bit of an odd tone to it in comparison to the passive tone. "Odd" is probably the wrong word as it does sound good, but it's just that the passive tone sounds so much better in comparison. I'm not a huge fan of DarkGlass preamps (I had one in a Spector before and wasn't a fan). So, anyway, the only thing I may change w/ the Z3 at some point is the pre. Curious what other preamps people use in their Dingwalls.
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My Z1 has an Aguilar OBP-1 that used to be one of the standard options (OBP-1 for 2 band, OBP-3 for 3 band), my Voodoo Prima has an OBP-2 in it, because the original Bartolini had died long before I received it and I wanted a 18v preamp that could do bass/treble stacked so I didn't have to drill holes.

The generally offered preamp that most people are using if not the DGTC is the Glockenklang. And I remember a ways back when people were putting in East preamps as well.
 
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#41,803
IronSean said:
You can reach out to a Dingwall dealer or Dingwall themselves for pricing. It was $200 Canadian last I checked, they give you a third pickup, a new pickguard, and a new 6-way rotary which is built for their 3 pickup configuration. On your combustion it should change the Bridge/Neck Series setting to be Bridge/Middle series and everything else would be the same.



Usually it's because the "sound" of a type of bass often has to do with the pickup placement and wiring. A P-bass is a split-coil closer to the neck in series for boosted low mids. A jazz bass is a bridge and neck pickup wired in parallel to blend between. A musicman is a bridge humbucker usually wired in parallel but sometimes switchable to series.

So when thinking about a 3x dingwall with 3 pickups in a row, you can cop some of those combinations.

Bridge solo, Middle solo, and Neck solo are just pickup sounds at those positions. Not unlike a Jazz with pickups there. But their pickups are all split coils too, so you can go series/parallel inside the pickup. Neck only or middle only in series might get you more like your P bass tone.

Neck and Bridge in parallel is like your Jazz configuration, since that's what the blend sound of a J-bass is like.

Bridge and middle in parallel is closer to the two parallel coils of a Musicman, and series is more like a MM pickup in series (purely based on placement and wiring).

And if you have series/parallel switches on all three pickups you can vary those too.

But so basically:
Bridge/Neck parallel - Jazz bass pickup arrangement
Bridge middle parallel/series - MM pickup arrangement (usually parallel, but some were switchable.

Then the individual pickups might have placements similar to other basses, like Jazz Bridge or neck for bridge or neck, P-bass placement is somewhere in there. Middle might be like the neck on a warwick thumb, etc.
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Dingwall 6-way switch? Are you talking about the 6-way switch that Maurilio is making these days?
 
#41,804
Scott McArron said:
My brain finally processed what you wrote when you said Biden. I was like, what does the US pres have to do with basses? Lol. Just woke up...

Dude, that's so tough. I'm in love with the look and feel and most everything about the Boden, with 2 caveats: 1) the B string lacks the same attack as the other strings, it's rather unbalanced to be honest. Which is odd since my 34" Sadowsky achieves this balance just fine. 2) overall the bass has a very warm character. While that's great in many scenarios, it's not great for what I wanted to use it for, e.g. my metal bass. It takes a lot of EQ to make it work (especially that B!), and that's mostly dialing in a ton of 3k hi-mids. If the strings aren't brand new, there's not enough high-mid juice in the onboard pre to get the metal clank I'm looking for. Still, I can make it work well enough.

I wish Strandberg would make a longer scale length bass, and solid body. I think that would be the ultimate ticket right there. That EndurNeck is to die for. Everything else feels vintage or old skool in comparison. I'd sell my Sadowsky in a heartbeat before my Boden despite the imperfections. You can always find another Super-J bass. There's nothing else out there quite like the Boden.
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Ha!! A typo on my end..... my bad. I guess the statement can still apply but anywho....:whistle:

I’ve heard they have a great neck but that’s about all as a positive in comparison to a dingwall. I mean no insult by it, it’s just that tonally the dingwalls bring it HARD!!! Where as some others who have adapted the multiscale haven’t completed the full package (yet?). You’ll find the NG will be sonically pulverizing in comparison.
Sounds like you have a plan though so enough on that.
When it comes to the Canadian dingwalls, if you like a thin fast neck the Z is the pinnacle. If you want a little more meat in your grip the ABs are just a different form of amazing.

If you have the time there is a lot of discussion about the differences back through this thread.

japhy4529 said:
It's not that I don't like the DG, pre, but I have to say that it's has a bit of an odd tone to it in comparison to the passive tone. "Odd" is probably the wrong word as it does sound good, but it's just that the passive tone sounds so much better in comparison. I'm not a huge fan of DarkGlass preamps (I had one in a Spector before and wasn't a fan). So, anyway, the only thing I may change w/ the Z3 at some point is the pre. Curious what other preamps people use in their Dingwalls.
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give the DG time. It’s an extremely versatile tool. It’s usage and refinement is more precise then any other preamp I’ve played with. It seems to behave a bit different in how the pots react with each other. It’s less obvious in what to do with it until you really explore it. It does add a DG flavour but it can be extremely useful. Welcome to this
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VolverseLoco said:
I have never touched those pickups and never cleaned them, ever, untill I took the pickguard off the other day to make way for a pickguard I had made (NG2 style). I play with a pick 100% of the time and I dont even hardly every play the G sting, which is over those far outside corners of the pickup. Nothing goes near them. The string imprints are understandable on a light color wood finish I guess (as its my first), the strings are like a fine thread screw always rubbing into the wood. Cellphone cameras are really, really good. I just dont get what the orangeish colors are at the 3rd and 5th and extending into the 2nd. Its only there, the rest of the neck is pristine.

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#41,806
AB Nate said:
Ha!! A typo on my end..... my bad. I guess the statement can still apply but anywho....:whistle:

I’ve heard they have a great neck but that’s about all as a positive in comparison to a dingwall. I mean no insult by it, it’s just that tonally the dingwalls bring it HARD!!! Where as some others who have adapted the multiscale haven’t completed the full package (yet?). You’ll find the NG will be sonically pulverizing in comparison.
Sounds like you have a plan though so enough on that.
When it comes to the Canadian dingwalls, if you like a thin fast neck the Z is the pinnacle. If you want a little more meat in your grip the ABs are just a different form of amazing.

If you have the time there is a lot of discussion about the differences back through this thread.



give the DG time. It’s an extremely versatile tool. It’s usage and refinement is more precise then any other preamp I’ve played with. It seems to behave a bit different in how the pots react with each other. It’s less obvious in what to do with it until you really explore it. It does add a DG flavour but it can be extremely useful. Welcome to this
“D”mension by the way!!!
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SAM...yes..I know..
 
#41,807
And thar she blows! Finally got my custom made HOLY carbon fiber pickguard delivered just now. I had to send him a tracing of my regular pickguard (neck and bridge) so he could make the 2 pickups next to eachother, and it came out great. Now he has the template and can mass produce them for $90 each. Thats about $60 overpriced for a piece of plastic, but oh well. You see, I am handicapped. I play with a pick only, that is my handicap, and with the one pickup smack dab in the middle, right in my pick landing zone, I would constantly hit the top of the pickup. Severly impeded my playing. Since I couldnt buy this direct becuase it is so 'special', I found another way. See, as soon as I got the bass I dropped that neck one flush with the pickguard right away becuase of my handicap, so I always wondered what it would be like to actually use both at full height, and notate, I was very happy with this sound. When I moved the neck one back and raised it up while waiting for the new pickguard, I discovered it sounded really vintage, round, warm and HONKEY in the mids and I CAN'T play any Autograph or Vinnie Vincent sounding like that. So I lowered it again, thus defeating the whole purpose of the new pickguard. It sounds much better now, just like it did before I started this non-sense. Ahh, but I am not going to write off all this warm/round/honkeyness to the Dingwall pickups. No way. Im blaming my Fender Bassman 15" neo cabinet. So I just bought a brand new Hartke HyDrive HD210 cabinet (I just bought it, it did not arrive yet, but it will, because I already paid for it). Yep, gonna tighten the Dingwall right up with the 2x10 punch. I'll leave the Fender stuff to the guys with Jazz bass's/flats and torts and their Bob Dillion songs...I don't think Dana Strum played through a Fender rig...Shes a beauty, even the hot sauce.

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#41,808
AB Nate said:
As a diehard Dingwall guy. I’ve come back full circle to appreciate some variety. My be all end all bass is a dingwall but I’m really enjoying alternatives and ultimately Spector has taken a distinct second place for me.

gratuitous family photo. Some may come and go but Galactus is #1.
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That is quite the family shot there Nate. Love it. Also, +1 on having Spector come in second. Now that I have a four string back, I've thought of a fiver. Gotta be used so I can sell it if the B string doesn't hold up against my Dingwalls. Nice NS5 though. :thumbsup:
 
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AB Nate said:
As a diehard Dingwall guy. I’ve come back full circle to appreciate some variety. My be all end all bass is a dingwall but I’m really enjoying alternatives and ultimately Spector has taken a distinct second place for me.

My opinion, ditch the Biden, from every vid I’ve seen of them their tone is lacking despite any other playability and feel factors..... I mean they have a sound and if you like it that’s great. Same for dingwalls but I think you’ll find the dingwall to be vastly superior in tonal abilities.
That’s said the Sadowsky offers you a distinctly different option and so I would keep that instead.
Be warned though that the Chinese basses often act as a gateway drug into the Canadian models so warn your wallet now.

gratuitous family photo. Some may come and go but Galactus is #1.
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Nice music room, sir :hyper:
 
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johnsonabq said:
That is quite the family shot there Nate. Love it. Also, +1 on having Spector come in second. Now that I have a four string back, I've thought of a fiver. Gotta be used so I can sell it if the B string doesn't hold up against my Dingwalls. Nice NS5 though. :thumbsup:
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I’m quite addicted to the EMG/Maple body sound right now. The Fretless 6 is way more amazing and dynamic then I anticipated. I think the flats are gonna go back on the dingwall for some more contrast to it.
IvanBassist said:
Nice music room, sir :hyper:
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thanks! Taking reals estate back from my teenager that’s moved out of our small abode. ;) , But it still needs to be able to accommodate sleeping quarters

And still leaving it somewhat transformable in case my lad needs to come back.
 
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#41,814
Bozendoka said:
I can confirm this, I have EMG 40 sized pickups in my 5-string combustion.
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This is GREAT news, as I have begun the check list for the upcoming surgical procedure. That is to pull out the two infected teeth in my 4 string Combustion and make way for two EMG40 JCS's. Although I have the 4 string, the stock pickups in it are of EMG40 measurements. Heck yeah. I did get my new Hartke HyDrive 210 cabinet yesterday and I still get that unpleasant warm, round, HONKEY/Nasal mid tone from both stock round edge pickups when they are at regular height. I thought it was the Fender Bassman 115 Neo causing this unwanted tone but it's not. I have EMG35 JCS's in My Jackson pointy headstock and THAT is the tone I want outta my WhalePond Blue Combustion. While Im at the surgery, I will gut the unecessary electronics (In my case/opinion) and have only 1 volumne knob for both EMG's wired in series. No preamps, no tone conrtols, thats what all those knobs on my effects are for. The toggle switch will be commandeered as a simple 18volt on/off switch so I dont have to keep unplugging the amp cord. What will come out of all this will be that brand new carbon fiber pickguard (my custom made 'NG2' style copy) and both stock Dingwall pickups for sale CHEAP-FIRESALE. I seen some good mods here that were done to their Dingwalls, so I will take some pics of the process for others to see.
 
#41,818
Ryno1330 said:
Nice job Ivan! Those have just awesome mids- right up my alley. Even though I'm a year out on my super pj it's good to know there's a custom Payson option.

Do you know what strings Dingwall ships their supers with?
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They ship with Dingwall medium scale nickels. 45-65-80-105. I currently have those on my Super P.
 
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#41,819
ThisYouCanTrust said:
You want to learn to tame it imho.
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I should have never even discovered that sound. I like the razor sharp clangy metallic tone from the EMG's I plan on putting into it. Maybe I should have left well enough alone and not raised my one Dingwall pickup back up to regular height only to stumble upon that HONKEY/Nasally sound. Never satisfied, I know...I know it well.
 

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