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#61,981
I really like the idea of the headless, but if the ~$5k is correct, I’m having a difficult time paying custom shop money but not getting custom shop options. Would love a wenge neck option rather than just maple with a wenge fingerboard. Maybe if they were to paint the naked block of wood. I’m sure these will sell well.
 
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#61,983
We definitely have pretty limited information on what is and isn't available on these (at least, I haven't seen much). I'm guessing dealers will be getting a lot of material on them very soon and can start answering questions. If Talkbass wasn't so hostile to dealers, they'd probably freely post up things here for us.

$5k isn't horrible. I've come to terms with Dingwall being a very premium brand, and seeing some overseas models going for $4k+ new, this doesn't seem out of line with their ability to sell up-priced models. I'm mostly only bothered cos it means I can't buy more Dingwalls, but, I really should stop anyway 😂
 
#61,985
Ah, gotcha. That makes some sense for the first iteration of a new product. Limit the options a bit to gauge actual demand. It also sounds like it's similar to the Fast... Lane? Fast Track? builds out of Canada, I think? Those may have even less options, I forget.
I just realized I'm not adding much of value to the thread at the moment haha. I'm still over the moon with my Z. Just put it down to start my day :D
 
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How different is the P-Tone pickup in a single pickup for an NG3 differ from the Dual P in the SP1? Are they essentially the same pickup, just in a single vs split shells?

I'm debating on whether or not to put a P-Tone or SFII in the neck position of my NG3, knowing that I'm eventually going to get an SP1, and don't want them both to sound similar when played passive and neck pickup solo'd.
 
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warptheory said:
How different is the P-Tone pickup in a single pickup for an NG3 differ from the Dual P in the SP1? Are they essentially the same pickup, just in a single vs split shells?

I'm debating on whether or not to put a P-Tone or SFII in the neck position of my NG3, knowing that I'm eventually going to get an SP1, and don't want them both to sound similar when played passive and neck pickup solo'd.
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I have a Super PJ 4 and an ABZ with ptones. To me, the scale length differences are going to give you different tones even with the same pickups.
 
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I wonder if the Effigy's release reveals anything about Dingwall's plan for the Fastlane model. The Fastlane was shown at Guitar Summit 2024, in a "gauging potential buyer interest" type announcement, and I haven't heard too much about it since. In contrast, the just announced Effigy seems way ahead in the "when can I get my hands on this?" department. John Fox says he already has several Effigy on order.

Inquiring minds want to know - will the Fastlane ever reach production?

In any case, the Effigy definitely breaks new ground for Dingwall - will be interesting as details emerge.
 
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MultiScaleMale said:
I have a Super PJ 4 and an ABZ with ptones. To me, the scale length differences are going to give you different tones even with the same pickups.
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Yea, I realize that overall construction of the bass, scale length, pickup placement, as well as a single shell vs split is all going to affect the tone, it's not exactly apple to apples, just wondering if they are the close to the same tone.

With your Super PJ and ABZ, when solo'd on the neck, do they sound in the same ballpark as each other or different enough to warrant picking either bass for a desired tone, removing scale length, playability, string count, etc. from the equation.
 
#61,990
I had a Super J 5 with super fatty pickups. I changed the wiring of both pups to series. This is super easy, a quick change done in the control cavity.

This gave me a beefier bridge solo sound, and moved the solo neck pickup much closer to Ptone territory. The two blended positions were also better.

A couple series/parallel switches could have been added, but I wanted to keep it simple.

When the split P pickup became available, I ordered it and a new pickguard. The split P located a bit further from the neck, in the usual P bass position. This definitely got evrry last bit of that P bass sound.

I think the pickups are pretty close in sound, and the position made the biggest difference.

I have also put Ptone pickups in the soap bar shape in AB-1’s. That gets more P sound, but because the position stays the same, not quite the whole enchilada.

I have a Super P 4, with the split pickup, and it’s pure P bass sound. With the added twist of the hybrid tone control, which can do a nice scooped sound.

So the p tones are definitely worth it. But there are a few inexpensive things to try with the super fatties or any other four wire pickup that can be wired to series.
 
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It's surprising they haven't come up with a decent solution for the block of maple in the middle of the body. They don't even have an option to black it out anymore. Looks so out of place. Different wood combinations is a fix too. Will have to wait for more information to find out what really is and isn't an option on this.
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Always felt there were a few poor aesthetic choices for some models.
 
#61,993
singlemalt said:
I had a Super J 5 with super fatty pickups. I changed the wiring of both pups to series. This is super easy, a quick change done in the control cavity.

This gave me a beefier bridge solo sound, and moved the solo neck pickup much closer to Ptone territory. The two blended positions were also better.

A couple series/parallel switches could have been added, but I wanted to keep it simple.

When the split P pickup became available, I ordered it and a new pickguard. The split P located a bit further from the neck, in the usual P bass position. This definitely got evrry last bit of that P bass sound.

I think the pickups are pretty close in sound, and the position made the biggest difference.

I have also put Ptone pickups in the soap bar shape in AB-1’s. That gets more P sound, but because the position stays the same, not quite the whole enchilada.

I have a Super P 4, with the split pickup, and it’s pure P bass sound. With the added twist of the hybrid tone control, which can do a nice scooped sound.

So the p tones are definitely worth it. But there are a few inexpensive things to try with the super fatties or any other four wire pickup that can be wired to series.
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I have some pickups arriving today from Reverb, P-Tone neck, SF2 middle and bridge. I can either go P-Tone or SF2 in the neck position, and debating about which one to go with first. It's hard to find a demo of both of them in the neck pickup in the same video, in fact I don't know that one exists.

So really just feeling out which option to try first.
 
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warptheory said:
I have some pickups arriving today from Reverb, P-Tone neck, SF2 middle and bridge. I can either go P-Tone or SF2 in the neck position, and debating about which one to go with first. It's hard to find a demo of both of them in the neck pickup in the same video, in fact I don't know that one exists.

So really just feeling out which option to try first.
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Is that a 4 or a 5 string bass?
 
#61,996
Just a bad AI render of Matte Black with Wenge neck (and fretboard markers missing…), but it gets my inner metalhead juices flowing (it couldn’t manage to add another string sadly). Sooo much nicer to me without the naked maple neck block. Hopefully someday 🥲
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Scott McArron said:
Just a bad AI render of Matte Black with Wenge neck (and fretboard markers missing…), but it gets my inner metalhead juices flowing (it couldn’t manage to add another string sadly). Sooo much nicer to me without the naked maple neck block. Hopefully someday 🥲
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Maybe Neck Illusions will come out with a sticker or some sort of wrap for it. It does look out of place compared to the fingerboard and vibrant colors.
 

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