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Dingwall Owners Club

Practiced with the Super P tonight. It gets the call tomorrow for 'church'. Set list includes Our God, Lift High, Beautiful, Here's my Heart, and the fabulous My Redeemer Lives (Reuben Morgan). Among others. It definitely has the "P bass vibe' going on.!!!

HA ! We're playing Our God today, Give me Faith, and Overcome. All great songs but Overcome gets a ton of yanked low B for impact! The trick is to grab a handful of low B and not look like you just won the lottery or thumbed through your very first copy of National Geographic as a young lad. :D

We have delayed short service today because of the quick storm that came through yesterday and turned the roads in to a giant ice skating rink.

I have not put down the Super P5 since it got here, nor left home without it, with the exception of noodling at the house once or twice. I feel like I need to take it to church but can't bear to leave the Super P at home. Life was easier when I only had one Dingwall.

Maybe the SP/SJ guys need to make a pact to play them on the same respective days?
 
Please don't get me wrong, and appreciate my background on this, I grew up in Italy in the 60's, moved to London UK in the 80's most of my life has been lived here in UK.

Strangely enough... I hear you guys talking about worship and music in churches, I just can't get my head around music being played in a church, where I come from in Italy there never was such thing, actually the very thought could also be considered heresy by the Christian church, all that is allowed in our churches is those big pipe organs that go up to the ceiling.

As for London, actually almost similar scenario with the protestant Church of England, the only churches where music is played and worship takes place is in African community churches, they are very big on the subject.

That's it, here end my observation, it was only a thought based on the amount of time I hear you guys talking about worship. I respect you all wholeheartedly by the way, so in no way I condemn it, I just find it weird because it constrasts the way I was brought up. Thanks and keep on worshipping.
 
I have a 4 hour gig every Friday night...pretty much exclusively on upright, but I took my Super P4 to the gig to see if I could squeeze it in there somewhere. Wound up playing 10-15 songs with it. Used a Michael Pope MPP2 two channel pre, so the Dingwall would get its own channel. Found a very usable tone in seconds and was off to the races. Such an easy bass to play, great, even tone and the band loved it :)

By contrast, I have to learn some songs this morning, so I grabbed my Fender AM STD P bass...never would've thought of that bass as clunky or hard to play (P Basses have been my main thing since the late 70's), but compared to the Dingwall, it was kind of a drag to get around on!

I know of the famous, awesome sounding B string (heard it for myself and it's true!), but even for us 4 bangers, Dingwalls are amazing basses :)
 
Regarding the B Booster, is it something that only the early Combustions need, or is it needed on all Combustions, even the more recent ones?

Only the first batch if I recall correctly. The active/passive switch, trademark of the second (and current) version, was added after the B booster became default. Again, I recall correctly.

That said, buying a used first batch Combustion is just fine. Many of the early adopters didn't install a B booster, and those who did paid $10 for it and I heard that it's really easy to install.
 
I have a 4 hour gig every Friday night...pretty much exclusively on upright, but I took my Super P4 to the gig to see if I could squeeze it in there somewhere. Wound up playing 10-15 songs with it. Used a Michael Pope MPP2 two channel pre, so the Dingwall would get its own channel. Found a very usable tone in seconds and was off to the races. Such an easy bass to play, great, even tone and the band loved it :)

By contrast, I have to learn some songs this morning, so I grabbed my Fender AM STD P bass...never would've thought of that bass as clunky or hard to play (P Basses have been my main thing since the late 70's), but compared to the Dingwall, it was kind of a drag to get around on!

I know of the famous, awesome sounding B string (heard it for myself and it's true!), but even for us 4 bangers, Dingwalls are amazing basses :)


While the B is what gets all the press, along with the fanning, the reality is that Sheldon builds a BEAUTIFUL bass. The body, the neck, the contours and electronics are all very well engineered and executed. The multi-scale magic works just as well for a 4 as a 5 or 6.
 
Please don't get me wrong, and appreciate my background on this, I grew up in Italy in the 60's, moved to London UK in the 80's most of my life has been lived here in UK.

Strangely enough... I hear you guys talking about worship and music in churches, I just can't get my head around music being played in a church, where I come from in Italy there never was such thing, actually the very thought could also be considered heresy by the Christian church, all that is allowed in our churches is those big pipe organs that go up to the ceiling.

As for London, actually almost similar scenario with the protestant Church of England, the only churches where music is played and worship takes place is in African community churches, they are very big on the subject.

That's it, here end my observation, it was only a thought based on the amount of time I hear you guys talking about worship. I respect you all wholeheartedly by the way, so in no way I condemn it, I just find it weird because it constrasts the way I was brought up. Thanks and keep on worshipping.

Very interesting observation. Pipe Organs are music aren't they? :) I know what you meant, and it is interesting to see the differences and understand the viewpoints. In our church we play more "blended" worship which is a combination of hymns and some of the more contemporary worship music which helps to bridge the gap. You'd be surprised though to see how much some young people still enjoy the classic hymns.
 
While the B is what gets all the press, along with the fanning, the reality is that Sheldon builds a BEAUTIFUL bass. The body, the neck, the contours and electronics are all very well engineered and executed. The multi-scale magic works just as well for a 4 as a 5 or 6.


Agreed! Funny enough, I am no longer the owner of that natural Super P4. Traded today with a fellow TB'r for a Super J/P4! He didn't like the skinnier nut width on the Super J, and the Super J/P was the bass I was planning to order before I found that Super P used at such a good price. Hopefully we both did well on the trade :)
 
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I know I just jumped onboard with my combustion purchase but I was curious what type of mods others have done .mine is a series one so I am going to get the b booster to start. I have heard about a four way pickup selector or individual switches for each pickup series/parallel. Haven't seen to much on preamp swaps. I love the bass and dig the sound of it just feel it is a little low on the output side.
 
I know I just jumped onboard with my combustion purchase but I was curious what type of mods others have done .mine is a series one so I am going to get the b booster to start. I have heard about a four way pickup selector or individual switches for each pickup series/parallel. Haven't seen to much on preamp swaps. I love the bass and dig the sound of it just feel it is a little low on the output side.

I love th 4-way selector that's on my AB and my V/Z. And depending on the pickups, the internal S/P switches can be a nice feature. My AB doesn't have switching and the pickups are wired in parallel, and my V/Z does and spends most of its time in series.
 
I know I just jumped onboard with my combustion purchase but I was curious what type of mods others have done .mine is a series one so I am going to get the b booster to start. I have heard about a four way pickup selector or individual switches for each pickup series/parallel. Haven't seen to much on preamp swaps. I love the bass and dig the sound of it just feel it is a little low on the output side.

People who mod their Combustions frequently replace their pickups. The pickups in your bass are FD-3As, which are an alnico version of the neodymium FD-3 pickups you see in many other Dingwall basses. A few have replaced the preamp too, or so I hear. But the first change I'd recommend is getting the 4 way selector - that series setting makes the bass.
 
Please don't get me wrong, and appreciate my background on this, I grew up in Italy in the 60's, moved to London UK in the 80's most of my life has been lived here in UK.

Strangely enough... I hear you guys talking about worship and music in churches, I just can't get my head around music being played in a church, where I come from in Italy there never was such thing, actually the very thought could also be considered heresy by the Christian church, all that is allowed in our churches is those big pipe organs that go up to the ceiling.

As for London, actually almost similar scenario with the protestant Church of England, the only churches where music is played and worship takes place is in African community churches, they are very big on the subject.

That's it, here end my observation, it was only a thought based on the amount of time I hear you guys talking about worship. I respect you all wholeheartedly by the way, so in no way I condemn it, I just find it weird because it constrasts the way I was brought up. Thanks and keep on worshipping.

I know exactly what you mean, GW. I grew up in a Catholic church. Let's just say that there was a never a need to learn the bass line for Avi Maria. :D

I'll avoid the whole G.O.D. thing for a moment and offer my opinion solely from a musician's perspective. And I promise that Dingwall ties in to all of this, at least for me.

Never in a million years would I have ever thought I'd play CC/PW. My wife was out of town and I when I told I was going to play with the church, she literally choked on here coffee. And she is a godly woman.

Wife and I had been looking for a church, so I checked it out. The band uncorked. The lead guitar player was killing it. You could set your watch by the drummer. Man I had the meanest case of drummer envy EVER ! Singer was amazing. Other singer was playing acoustic and ripping. I was just flat blown away. Never thought of the genre as drawing these type of musicians. I expected a bunch of music theory nerds lacking.......wait for it.............SOUL!

So I agreed to help out for 90 days. My material is sent to me Sunday night with key notations and Youtube clips of appropriate arrangements. You roll in to rehearsal and it never takes more than an hour. Everyone is so professional. Everyone knows their trash, learning it note for note. Any changes are made and noted at rehearsal.

Quick run through day of service and then game time. Then you shelve that material and do it all again the next week.

There are no difficult people compared to what I have to deal with in secular bands. No attitudes, drunks, divas, or people chasing heinie. As silly as it sounds, and setting aside pure talent, it is the most professional environment in which I have ever worked.

None of this is the right reason for getting involved with a church praise band/worship team, but it is a pleasure from a musician's perspective.

If for no other reason than being a musician, you should put some feelers out and check out a couple of churches in your neck of the woods where CC is part of the foundation of the church. I think you'll be shocked, especially with your background.

Now here is where Dingwall falls in to all of this. Prior to the church bands, I had never viewed Dingwall basses as a critical/necessary tool. In bar bands, a Fender P can take you anywhere you need to go. The Ding was awesome, but again, not a true NEED.

In CC, The SJ and now the SP are critical to my tonal needs. I wont even bring up not being able to funtion without Low B.

I played a single Sunday on the Fender P and I was miserable. The biggest issue was loss of dynamics and touch.

Can you play CC on something other than Dingwall? Sure you can. But overall, it's pretty clear to me while you see so many high end basses in CC/PW.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.
 
I have a 4 hour gig every Friday night...pretty much exclusively on upright, but I took my Super P4 to the gig to see if I could squeeze it in there somewhere. Wound up playing 10-15 songs with it. Used a Michael Pope MPP2 two channel pre, so the Dingwall would get its own channel. Found a very usable tone in seconds and was off to the races. Such an easy bass to play, great, even tone and the band loved it :)

By contrast, I have to learn some songs this morning, so I grabbed my Fender AM STD P bass...never would've thought of that bass as clunky or hard to play (P Basses have been my main thing since the late 70's), but compared to the Dingwall, it was kind of a drag to get around on!

I know of the famous, awesome sounding B string (heard it for myself and it's true!), but even for us 4 bangers, Dingwalls are amazing basses :)

Dingwalls ruined me for my beloved Fender P. And you played it so you know what I am talking about. It was the first time that Leo's design felt like it was 6O+ years old.

I cant believe you swapped out the SP4 before I got to even play it. Try to hang on the SJ/P until gear nerd day. I need to make a decision on the SJ.

Now how about playing the Ding with 6SL7 on Push It and recording it the next PF gig!
 
Duke - that was fast! How do you like the P/J? Compared to the P? Congrats!


Thanks! Honestly, I liked the Super P a LOT, but had I ordered a new bass, it would've been a Super J/P, and this trade came out of the blue. Just got the J/P to my shop, put Dingwall Nickels on (thanks again, Ken!!!) and started testing. The tone is kind of a "best of both worlds" or what have you, IMO. The somewhat heavily lacquered maple fingerboard is gonna take some getting used to. Typically, I love rosewood or Pao Ferro. I think I can tame the 'zing' down to my liking though. The bass plays and feels awesome!
 
Dingwalls ruined me for my beloved Fender P. And you played it so you know what I am talking about. It was the first time that Leo's design felt like it was 6O+ years old.



I cant believe you swapped out the SP4 before I got to even play it. Try to hang on the SJ/P until gear nerd day. I need to make a decision on the SJ.



Now how about playing the Ding with 6SL7 on Push It and recording it the next PF gig!


I'll hang on to this one for sure. Heck, I would've kept both if I could've!

Playing, right now through my Reiner 6SL7 pre into a Greenboy F115 and I am not unhappy about it :)