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Do I shower?

#81
filmtex said:
It depends on what you like. You should probably take two showers and see which one works best for you. There are so many showers to choose from, it's hard to make a recommendation. What kind of water do you have- hard or soft. Is your shower loud or not. Do you shower fast, or just take your time. Too many variables to make an educated recommendation. You should either ask the guitar player or lead singers girlfriend or....just fire the drummer.
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In other words: "What's the best shower for metal?"
 
#83
Smokers go outside to smoke in our rehearsal space ( ie my house).

If it wasn't my house they still go outside or I go outside with my equipment-- once or twice to load my car and leave. No band is worth my health.
 
#85
3 hours before rehearsal: Big meal of refried beans (heavy on the onions/ maybe some cheese as well)).

1 hour before rehearsal: tall boy of beer.

End of rehearsal: Tell 'em you'll stop stinking up the place if they do too.
 
#87
I don't smoke, but if your band regularly plays smoke-filled venues, which is obviously a very common situation, you are already exposing yourself to a far more dangerous atmosphere when hundreds of people are smoking in a room, versus two or three at practice. So as much as the smell might be unpleasant at rehearsals, if you are already gigging regularly in worse atmospheres, then I don't get the upset about people smoking around you at rehearsals. Presumably your goal is to be spending far more time gigging than practicing anyway, right?
 
#90
Well, as a side note on the subject of smoking, what I find a real head-shaker is establishments that have signs on the door with the usual non-smoking symbol and "includes e-cigarettes" below it. Really? We're banning WATER VAPOR now? There's nothing actually burning in an e-cig...it's not putting carcinogens into the air, just water vapor with some flavoring and a little bit of nicotine in it. What little scent others sitting close by might detect is considerably more pleasant than cigarettes. If we're going to take exception to that, then maybe we should crack down on patrons who seem to have taken a bath in cologne and perfume too (which sometimes makes my better half's airways constrict and has him reaching for his inhaler).

Seeing that kind of resistance to smokers (or ex-smokers who have switched to e-cigs) being allowed any comfort at all strengthens my suspicions that for some militant anti-smokers, it's not just about valid health concerns. When I see people trying to ban e-cigs as well, it makes me think that deep down, it's also about getting some sort of mean-spirited pleasure out of getting to impose themselves on other people and tell them what they can and can't do.
 
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David Vector said:
Well, as a side note on the subject of smoking, what I find a real head-shaker is establishments that have signs on the door with the usual non-smoking symbol and "includes e-cigarettes" below it. Really? We're banning WATER VAPOR now? There's nothing actually burning in an e-cig...it's not putting carcinogens into the air, just water vapor with some flavoring and a little bit of nicotine in it. What little scent others sitting close by might detect is considerably more pleasant than cigarettes. If we're going to take exception to that, then maybe we should crack down on patrons who seem to have taken a bath in cologne and perfume too (which sometimes makes my better half's airways constrict and has him reaching for his inhaler).

Seeing that kind of resistance to smokers (or ex-smokers who have switched to e-cigs) being allowed any comfort at all strengthens my suspicions that for some militant anti-smokers, it's not just about valid health concerns. When I see people trying to ban e-cigs as well, it makes me think that deep down, it's also about getting some sort of mean-spirited pleasure out of getting to impose themselves on other people and tell them what they can and can't do.
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Or, just maybe, it's about keeping the vaping haze and smell out of their establishments.....just maybe.
 
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#98
guy n. cognito said:
Or, just maybe, it's about keeping the vaping haze and smell out of their establishments.....just maybe.
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In most cases, I doubt it. Many of those establishments were fine with having actual smoking sections prior to the legal ban. Someone who worked at a casual dining restaurant up north of here told me that they added e-cigs to their establishment's ban because some non-smokers, even those seated on the opposite side of the very large, air-circulated dining room where they couldn't possibly "nose" anything, were complaining about having to see someone doing something that even looked like smoking. They would try to explain to patrons that it wasn't the same thing, but it was like trying to talk to a wall. So management finally caved in because they got tired of hearing people complain.

If our noses are going to become so finicky that an occasional, fleeting whiff of something that smells like mint or cherry or whatever from someobdy's e-cig is that intolerable...then should I complain to management about that lady in the next booth who smells like she went swimming in a pool of Patchouli oil or the guy who walked in wearing work clothes that smell like automotive fluids?

I shouldn't have gone off on a rant in a mostly comical thread (I was in a mood earlier), but I'll end my participation in the thread by noting that the question does bear asking...where does the sense of entitlement that we must not be ever subjected to anything in public places that isn't exactly what we choose end?
 
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David Vector said:
In most cases, I doubt it. Many of those establishments were fine with having actual smoking sections prior to the legal ban. Someone who worked at a casual dining restaurant up north of here told me that they added e-cigs to their establishment's ban because some non-smokers, even those seated on the opposite side of the very large, air-circulated dining room where they couldn't possibly "nose" anything, were complaining about having to see someone doing something that even looked like smoking. They would try to explain to patrons that it wasn't the same thing, but it was like trying to talk to a wall. So management finally caved in because they got tired of hearing people complain.

If our noses are going to become so finicky that an occasional, fleeting whiff of something that smells like mint or cherry or whatever from someobdy's e-cig is that intolerable...then should I complain to management about that lady in the next booth who smells like she went swimming in a pool of Patchouli oil or the guy who walked in wearing work clothes that smell like automotive fluids?

I shouldn't have gone off on a rant in a mostly comical thread (I was in a mood earlier), but I'll end my participation in the thread by noting that the question does bear asking...where does the sense of entitlement that we must not be ever subjected to anything in public places that isn't exactly what we choose end?
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To those that don't vape....it's obnoxious. That's just all there it to it. It's relative safety to smoking is irrevelant.
 
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#100
tycobb73 said:
Yes in the rehearsal room. Band leader built the house. It's a dedicated room of the back of the garage with an industrial smoke eater but it's still 3 smokers.
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'Industrial' smoke eater? Well then, suck it up, buttercup ... assuming it actually works well.

On a side note: I'm visiting the twilight zone that is my hometown for the week, and besides there still be legal smoking in bars here ... I was tickled to find a place selling candy cigarettes! That's something I don't see much of anymore

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