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Do small round speaker grills look cheap to you?

What do you think of round speaker grills?

  • I like them.

    Votes: 20 13.2%
  • They are okay but not my first choice.

    Votes: 27 17.9%
  • I don't like them.

    Votes: 90 59.6%
  • Grated carrots!

    Votes: 14 9.3%

  • Total voters
    151
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The amp sure doesn't, but I know what it is. The cab I'd prefer like mine:

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Although the Walter Woods probably puts out a bit more power.

Coincidentally, the 12" driver in my DIY cabinet, (in my post), is a Bag End (Eminence). I also have them in my slabinet (a DIY 15" + 10" RedEye), with a BE crossover, as well.
I guess the real question here is - "would you have bought the Bag End cabinet IF is had a round speaker grille?"
Also too - I really liked the look of the Bag End Birch (uncovered) cabinets, though I suspect they may need to be handled with "care".
Thanks for your time and interest.
 
I also suffered from judging round grills as looking like Radio Shack p.a. speakers. But looking at some of the grills on this discussion, i.e. dudeorock's brown cabs with matching brown grills they look rich and industrial strength. I guess it matters the quality of the round grills and how well they are implemented into the design of the cabinet. Having said that, I like both cloth and metal grills also. I've used amps for 40 years with cloth grills and maybe because of luck I've never lost a speaker. It's odd, isn't it? You never see guitar cabinets with metal grills. Any thoughts on why?
 
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I guess the real question here is - "would you have bought the Bag End cabinet IF it had a round speaker grille?"

Not that this matters, but I actually traded an Epifani 1x12 for the Bag End 15. But yes, I likely would have made the trade due to how much I've loved my other Bag Ends (1x10, 2x12, 4x10, 1x18).

I do find it rather unfortunate that perfectly good speaker grills get such a bad rap, but I just can't get past the look. And 56.8% of the poll respondents feel the same.
 
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They look like, and it is personal opinion, that you may have a great design and build and rushed the finish.

There used to be lots of no name gear for sale with those. It says cheap. While some will scream snob, may I turn your attention to this?

We are in a performance art. While some argue the audience can't hear you use this or that, the total package of great tone, interesting music regardless of genre, and the appearance of your gear and your bod combine to make a subtle win.

Look like you're worth the money you charge. Look like you belong in their home, hall, outdoor venue. Other guests will hire you from those gigs. I've played gigs with anarchists who believe it is their right to wear whatever they want. I agree that it is. However I'm having fun serving the expectations of those who hire me. Trust me I'm not playing top 40 covers but some obscure fun stuff of every genre. You want your originals to be heard? Then don't alarm the mother of the bride by wearing that flannel shirt you love. ☺️

On a practical level a powder coated metal grille costs very little money and time for a metal shop to make.
I hate it when somebody posts a well thought-out and articulate argument to which I have no rebuttal.
OK, I'll have a go then :)

We are not in a performance art. We are simply artists, or at least human beings trying to give our life meaning by creating something beautiful. While this can certainly take the form in a combination of visual and sonic elements, it doesn't have to be. No one gets hurt if someone says 'my art form is sound and sound only'.

However, chances are that that person is not 'getting away' with it. It is now almost universally expected that there is a visual component to music. In a way, this is of all time, although recently this view has been amplified by Mtv.
It is very common that musicians get judged on their appearance, 'stage presence', music videos etc., and it is taken for granted and rarely, at the very least, questioned. I have received reactions on press kits that went "The demo sounds real good, but we need to see your music...". Which, in a way, makes about as much sense as "I need to smell your architecture".
I really wish this would change and that people would experience someone else's art without a fixed set of rules in mind.

In the top40/wedding/background music/party band-circuit there are expectations. There musicians are providing a service which usually includes looking the part. And having your amplifier look the part too. And either you agree to the entire thing, or you walk away. But, not all music is in the wedding/background-music-circuit. And in fact, the wedding/background-thing is more business than expression.

And what does all of this boil down to? Social status and conformity. Being together with, and belonging to a group of people who all have met a minimum threshold of (largely financial and influence-wise) achievement and look the same as you. To me, these are things that we need less of. Let's not set thresholds for social interaction and allow people to be themselves as much as possible. We're all human beings. It's okay. Let's get along and help each other out. Looking at a global scale, we have better things to do than requiring one another to wear $500+ clothes.

Am I going to wear whatever I want, knowing that it will annoy those hiring me to a great extend? No. Would I like to see more discussion on this topic and movement towards greater personal freedom and better priorities? Yes.


Back to the grills thing, which by now probably seems quite insignificant.
I find the 'no round grills'-rule a bit much, even in formal settings. There are examples of decent looking cabinets in this thread, to which I'd like to add the Henriksen JazzAmp (Home | Jazz Guitar Amplifier: Henriksen Jazz Amp: light, powerful, inexpensive, small, jazz guitar amplifier). I'd say: just choose the look you want, based on the aesthetics you like. Completely ignore any snobbery or TalkBass-Small-Round-Grills-acceptance-factor™.
 
Of all the cabs I like the look of, they all have full grilles. But I imagine the right speaker cab could sway me. Seems different in the studio monitors, though. A fair few come with the round grilles for some reason. Those that don't, come without any grille, though. I prefer those, too. I don't think I've ever known the round grilles to be known as "cheap", though.
 
I've owned round grills, full front metal grills, and cloth covered cabinets. Personally I could care less about the appearance of my cabinet in the long run tho, it's all about the sound coming out of it. After all the years playin out, they get ugly, war torn, and stage beaten. A scrim covers all that up, the sound is still amazing, and with any luck, people will be focusing on the performance and the performers more than a couple of boxes at the back of the stage.
 
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I've had them in the past and they actually seemed sturdier than some full mesh grilles on other cabinets. The only thing I wouldn't do is have one with cloth (accidents happen). Like others have said....as long as the sound it great, who cares.
 
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Flame much? Snipped the irrelevant image, since it's not really what anyone here is talking about, and so is a strawman.

I'm honestly surprised that people have opinions this strong about what wooden boxes of speakers look like. The more important part is that the piece of the cab that's the most important, and most easily damaged, is well protected in my big cab.

Well, what people "here are talking about" are personal preferences that are almost entirely matters of aesthetics. The proposition was that using round grilles causes a reaction in some of associating the appearance with lack of quality or care (i.e., "looking cheap"). Some people like they way they look. Some people don't. Some people don't really care. Some people seem to find it important to tell other people what they should or shouldn't care about.

As someone who generally doesn't care for the look, I recognize that others can like it (without affecting or bothering me) and that there are specific examples where I also like the look. Arguments as to their functionality have little or nothing to do with personal preferences on their appearance, especially considering that functionality isn't based on the shape of the grille.

I think there's some disconnect between being your surprised that there are strong opinions on the matter and actually holding one yourself that's strong enough to cause you to inject why you view them as superior (i.e., made with superior ideals).

I take from your overall comments that your position on the subject of the thread could be summarized as "I don't really care what they look like...they work to protect the speakers." And that's something I wouldn't react or respond to.

I wasn't reacting to the round grilles or preference/dislike for them. I was reacting to the idea that someone would actually form a rationale that something is preferable, not specifically because of its functionality, but because by choosing to build with them, a manufacturer indicates that they maintain certain philosophies and values on function over form.

That caused me to say "Really?"

IMO, that idea and its main assumption are beyond gratuitous. Similar to what the speaker size sound sticklers like to say, "The use of round grilles indicates nothing more than the shape of the grille that was used. The round grille could have been chosen because material cost, labor cost, weight, availability, the aesthetic preference of the builder (or their customers), or for no identifiable reason.

The picture (although admittedly a little overboard and fueled by being snowbound with a bottle of Fireball…and intended in good humor at the time) illustrated a point relevant to that.