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[Lance Bunyon]

I had to leave a Trombone Shorty concert in Centennial Hall in Tucson for this very reason. Even supposedly experienced Sound Engineers relegate the bass to the sub woofers; because that’s where it goes, right?

Just make sure to have a conversation with the Sound Engineer when this happens to you, to hopefully save his next victim the agony. Explain that the bass guitar goes in the Mains, and then bring up the signal in the subs to warm things up. They should know this. But, there is now an entire generation of Sound Engineers which trained in their Honda Civic with 2000W sub woofer, and thinks that’s the way music should sound. I wish that was Sarcasm speaking; but, not the case.

I experienced Trombone Shortys bass player being pure sub bass. I'd say this is their goal as a band, because an hour later Govt Mule had a very different bass sound in the FOH, same sound company...

 

[bucephylus]

I experienced Trombone Shortys bass player being pure sub bass. I'd say this is their goal as a band, because an hour later Govt Mule had a very different bass sound in the FOH, same sound company...

Possibly. I wasn’t so much focused on the bass as on the kick drum, which was vastly overpowering the vocals. That particular mix is highly unlike any of their live recordings I’ve heard.

Here’s a recording from that same time frame; and that is pretty much the mix I expected to hear.



Instead, the presentation was literally what you hear when that 2000W subwoofer car pulls up next to you, with the kick overpowering everything, including the vocals. The Sound Engineer obviously heard music that way.

 

[agedhorse]

When I worked with Trombone Shorty in the past (15 years ago at least), he was looking for a drums and bass driven sound. I wouldn’t say it was all kick drum, but it wasn’t a typical jazz/funk mix either.

 

[Plain Old Barry]

I experienced Trombone Shortys bass player being pure sub bass. I'd say this is their goal as a band, because an hour later Govt Mule had a very different bass sound in the FOH, same sound company...

Different FOH mixer?

The sound company often only provides system techs and equipment for national acts. How the FOH operator uses it is often the meat in the sandwich.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

so something i've been pondering for a while on here and i'm pretty young 33 here but...

i've seen a lot of nah you need 5000 watt tube rig for a bar gig with a drummer and x or xx guitars

real talk i was in a well known seattle punk band for a year on keys and the bass player had a 100W SWR 115 combo in a 2 git, drummer, 3 vox, and me on keys lol so with todays tech and everything being mic'd FOH i/anyone should be fine with a 350W head and 2x10 or am i just the dumb kid and need to get off ya lawn? enlighten me

Just a couple of things. One, I use a Mesa WD-800 set at 2 ohm so when powering a 8 ohm 210 cab will put out 300 watts. This rig has covered rooms that seat 500 without FOH . I play in a 12 piece Motown review band but 90% of our gigs we have FOH support. I’d guess I can product a good bit over dB if I ever need to.

Second thing, as a long time player in my early 70’s, I just want you to know that we can’t play forever and we are counting on your age group to keep live music alive.