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Does anybody actually use their fx loop?

K Dubbs

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There are a lot of models of bass heads/preamps out there which have FX loops in them. The vast majority of them aren't foot switchable, don't have level controls, and are not series/parallel selectable. So my questions are:

1. Does anybody actually use their fx loop/s to achieve anything which can't be achieved by front ending fx loops between the bass guitar and the amp's input?

2. Have you ever used your fx loop/s at all?

3. If you have ever used your fx loop/s, do you actually use them at your gigs?

I'm asking these questions because I have never used an fx loop on a bass amp which resulted in better usability of fx units, better tone, etc than if I front ended the fx into the input. I also can't say I know of any bass players other than myself who have either.
 
Never have. I have a pedal board and run it straight into the preamp. I'm tried it to hear a difference and didn't notice a thing. If there is a difference, are you really going to notice it from room to room, stage to stage? Too many cables on stage to go that route for me.
 
K Dubbs said:
There are a lot of models of bass heads/preamps out there which have FX loops in them. The vast majority of them aren't foot switchable, don't have level controls, and are not series/parallel selectable. So my questions are:

1. Does anybody actually use their fx loop/s to achieve anything which can't be achieved by front ending fx loops between the bass guitar and the amp's input?

2. Have you ever used your fx loop/s at all?

3. If you have ever used your fx loop/s, do you actually use them at your gigs?

I'm asking these questions because I have never used an fx loop on a bass amp which resulted in better usability of fx units, better tone, etc than if I front ended the fx into the input. I also can't say I know of any bass players other than myself who have either.


Just a thought. Is it more likely that users of rackmounted heads will have a seperate eq or compressor in the rack and as a result us the fx loop.
 
1) Yes, I use an RBI and I want its sound to go to the compressor and parametric EQ (that's why I can't put them prior to the RBI in the chain) and also keep controlling master volume from the RBI (and that's why I can't put them after the RBI in the chain). I use my bass to a Boss ME-8B multieffects that I use for effects but also for giving a hotter or colder signal (depending on what I want) for driving the RBI's input.

2) Yes, as described...

3) Yes, as described...

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K Dubbs said:
1. Does anybody actually use their fx loop/s to achieve anything which can't be achieved by front ending fx loops between the bass guitar and the amp's input?

All four of my rack delays sound markedly better (ie quieter) in a loop post-preamp. Same for my compressor. I also use both the sends and returns for various other stuff.

2. Have you ever used your fx loop/s at all?

Absolutely! The series ones are a lot less useful, but a Mackie 1202VLZ works wonders if that's what I'm stuck with. For me the Mackie makes the most sense most of the time anyway, since I need the mixing capabilities for my guitar/guitar synth rig anyway, and it gives me at least 3 available loops for the bass, which I also can readily use.

3. If you have ever used your fx loop/s, do you actually use them at your gigs?

Absolutely. And the Mackie's been out on a ton of gigs as well. I've never found running EFX before the front end to work at all well for my purposes, save for distortion effects..

As far as footswitching, that's what MIDI's for in my world.;) But it's been a while since I've done any gigs with the band in question. I expect to go to a 20 channel board for EFX mixing when I start it up again.
 
I currently run a Boss SE-70 in the effects loop of my rackmounted Eden and my H & K combo. With a midi FS the ability to "bypass" the processing of the SE-70 is as simple as one stomp. I don't use much in the way of effects, just some chorus/flange, eq's. . . . which to my ears sound better / have more predictable results after the preamp. Occasionally something really off the wall for a song intro or bridge.
 
Yes. I've been using the FX loop in my BMax for several months
now with a Lexicon Alex unit. It's rack mounted right above
my preamp. I use a "very small amount" of delay, and just
leave it on all the time, no need for a footswitch.

I'm pleased with the results so far. None of the guys in my
band have complained about my sound since I started using
it out on gigs.
 
I gigged with a rbi/swr bass750, that had a much thicker-compressed sound, when going through the fx loop. When you loop, "the input signal" your fx device is receving, has already been through your (amps) preamp stage. This signal is much hotter, and you may need to trim the input level,(probably need to change all settings) on your fx device. This can really change the way some fx units sound. Some fx dont like fx loops. I say try both, and see what works best.