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Does anybody in here play punk?

#101
When i was younger I used to listen to punk mostly (didn't like guitar solo wanking or the 'we are the forces of evil' stuff metal brought us)
When i was 16 i loved going to see a band like Bad religion, which actually stopped a show for a few minutes because someone threw a wallet onstage (which he found on the floor of the pit),just to give it back to the rightfull owner.
Or some other international punkband who after the show drunk some beer at the bar watching the next band play and talk with fans.
Too me this is more punk than any pink mohawk or patched up biker jacket can ever be.

Punk is suposed to be the workers class music for people without a musical education, not some arena band with for 60.000 euro/dollar of equipment.

today Hiphop (not the big selling 50cents stuff about bitches and gangsters) is more punk than the safe "poppunk" the kids are fed now.
Like real hiphop the message and attitude is more important than the musical skills.

O and BTW i would kill for a bassist spot in a punkband.

Matt Freeman of rancid was the one that made me want to play bass,
You should check "...and out come the wolves" for 1 of the greatest punk albums where all songs seemed to be build around bassguitar
 
#103
peledog said:
Defensive much? It was a PSA for you. Don't want you to get all huffy about it. Whether you or anyone else follows the rule is not up to me. As with any thread that has the word 'punk' in it, it's bound to deviate. That being said, debating what YOU don't want to hear about is more a propos. Pointing out a forum 'rule' to a TB bro is considered bad? Netiquette is not your forte is it?

Jesus Christ. I bet you know everything too. Amirite?
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Not defensive, just blunt. You're in a thread for people that play punk, I really wouldn't expect to find much etiquette here.

And yes, I do happen to know everything.
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#104
ERIC31 said:
I'm your average, 44 year old, straight edge hardcore "kid" basically. =)

Since the 80's.It started with 7 Seconds, Minor Threat, Gorilla Biscuits and Insted.

Still living the lifestyle, played in a few punk/hc bands over the years.

This was the logo for the hc band I formed in 1997. Lasted a couple years. Good times!
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In a Joan Jett cover band at the moment.
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Tried finding some of your stuff, managed to stumble across what I assume to be your's or one of your bandmate's blog, but didn't really have any success, do you have anything floating around?
 
#105
Din Of Win said:
That's awesome!! I grew up in DC!


In middle-school i was all about the 80's hardcore punk stuff (eg - Minor Threat, SOA, Negative Approach, Uniform Choice). By early highschool it was all crust and thrash punk (eg - His Hero is Gone, Los Crudos, What Happens Next, Life's Halt). By later highschool and for a few years after, i was seeing bands like Pg.99, Majority Rule, and City of Caterpillar on a weekly basis, so i listened to and played that crusty screamo and powerviolence stuff (eg - Spazz, Charles Bronson, Orchid, Jeromes Dream). After that i got hella jaded thanks to 'hardcore' and i did the hitch-hiking/trainhopping thing and all i listened to was folk punk (eg - This Bike is a Pipe Bomb, Defiance Ohio, Ghost Mice, On Reason, Soophie Nun Squad).

Now, it's mainly pop-punk and power-pop (eg - The Ergs!, The Muffs, The Dopamines, Teenage Bottle Rocket, The Methadones... and my band(s) :D ).
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Sir, I knew I wasn't the only person who liked screamo.
Kudos to you, don't run from it either. There's a bunch of great bands that still release music you'd really like. It's gotten a lot more experimental in later years, CTTS, IWSMSOFFY, Men As Trees, La Dispute(in a sense, more post-hardcore really).
Give some of it a look see.
 
#108
NJ Bassist number 101.5 here. Been doing the old school, three minute and done songs for 30 years now, and my most recent local show at the Paramount Sessions in Asbury Park we did 8 songs in 24 minutes. Including one Morrissey cover we threw in.

Punk rules. Or at least it did...
 
#109
NielsBass said:
When i was younger I used to listen to punk mostly (didn't like guitar solo wanking or the 'we are the forces of evil' stuff metal brought us)
When i was 16 i loved going to see a band like Bad religion, which actually stopped a show for a few minutes because someone threw a wallet onstage (which he found on the floor of the pit),just to give it back to the rightfull owner.
Or some other international punkband who after the show drunk some beer at the bar watching the next band play and talk with fans.
Too me this is more punk than any pink mohawk or patched up biker jacket can ever be.

Punk is suposed to be the workers class music for people without a musical education, not some arena band with for 60.000 euro/dollar of equipment.

today Hiphop (not the big selling 50cents stuff about bitches and gangsters) is more punk than the safe "poppunk" the kids are fed now.
Like real hiphop the message and attitude is more important than the musical skills.

O and BTW i would kill for a bassist spot in a punkband.

Matt Freeman of rancid was the one that made me want to play bass,
You should check "...and out come the wolves" for 1 of the greatest punk albums where all songs seemed to be build around bassguitar
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Having played CBGB's with the legendary Ramones, Blondie, Television and the like, I will tell you that pun is not, nor was it ever about street music. It was the answer to the way over produced music that was becoming the norm at that time (think Boston and ELO and many of the prog rock). Punk was about not perfect, DIY music.

The Ramones never wore the jackets until a photo shoot two albums into their career. Malcom McLaren created the Sex Pistols, and created what he thought the "look" should be. Listen to the early versions of the Sex Pistols music, with Glen Matlock on bass, and you get danceable but raw music. And Matlock was a very new wave/poppy guy, which is why McLaren threw him out of the band (didn't have the look, although he was the ONLY one who could actually write and play his instrument.)

Pop-punk is punk. Punk was never a style, nor a life style. It was more about "You think you are as good as those guys? You are just a bunch of punk #ss kids."

Hate to say it, but hip hop and rap might not even qualify as music. They have a following, but I would never say its music.

My two punk/pop punk cents....
 
#111
Peledog you are like so right. You should really look into being a psychiatrist because you just cut straight to my core and ripped me to shreds. Can you please keep name dropping so you can teach the rest of us about punk? We can all sit around you indian style and listen, it'll be cute, I promise.
 
#112
flygirafda3 - if your bass tone is the same as your online tone...well, you gots issues. Using self-deprecating humor/sarcasm does nothing to validate your position. I'm done with you.

Anyway, moving along...

Hip hop qualifies as music. It was DIY. It is DIY. If someone who knows three chords can play 'punk' music, what are the Roots? Chuck D writes great lyrics and has the best delivery of any MC, IMO.

Punk is a style. Now it is. Time (and marketing) has taken care of that. It's a money making machine now - at least for retail stores and t-shirt sellers and such. How many Misfits shirts do you see? Ramones? Bad Brains? They keep printing them, and people keep buying them. Hot Topic? I'm not even going to start with them.

Punk 'rock' is a style now. And from the sounds of the early bands that were against corporate schlock - there was a 'sound'. It was different and diverse.

Package it, sanitize it and sell it to the masses - pop punk. It's a genre now. Like it or not - people will confuse this genre with 'real' punk - and it's all trendy and rebellious. But you can't buy DIY or rebellion at Hot Topic - that being said, going to Hot Topic is sort of a rebellion I guess.

But if you're going to play a musical 'style', you should have respect, if not knowledge, of its history. You don't have to like it. Musical 'revolutions' occur rarely anyway - and the bands that started a movement will always be the standard to which newer bands are compared to.

It's hard to rage against the machine when all your clothing comes FROM the machine. You know?

My US$0.02

And, yes...to get this thread back 'on topic' - I played in a few punk bands. I used a Yamaha BB200 and a pick going through a cheap ass Peavey. We had originals, but we also covered Bad Brains, the Ramones, Fugazi, Minor Threat, Wire, Husker Du, Descendents, Minutemen, Sex Pistols, the Jam, Circle Jerks, Agnostic Front, Sick of it All, Angry Samoans, Black Flag, etc. That certainly reveals my age though, LOL. Today you've got Bouncing Souls, NOFX, Pennywise, AFI (bordering on pop punk here), Death by Stereo, Madball, Downset (still around?), Down by Law, Murphy's Law (alive and kicking!), Fear, Guttermouth, Hot Water Music, Inside Out (this was De La Rocha's old band, don't know if they're still around though), Rancid etc, etc, etc. So, punk's not dead.
 
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#114
bassslater19876 said:
Sir, I knew I wasn't the only person who liked screamo.
Kudos to you, don't run from it either. There's a bunch of great bands that still release music you'd really like. It's gotten a lot more experimental in later years, CTTS, IWSMSOFFY, Men As Trees, La Dispute(in a sense, more post-hardcore really).
Give some of it a look see.
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Yeeeees! I didn't want to dork-out TOO much... But now i know there's a common ear here...

A LOT of the newer european-influenced stuff i'm having a hard time getting into. Some i love, like: Raein and Sed non Satiata especially. But a lot just sounds like REALLY bad re-iterations of Amanda Woodward and Envy.

Amercan wise... eh... it's a toss up. Around here people are sweating Touche Amore... but i just can't get into it. I still get into some of the ex-members-of bands, like Ampere and Joshua Fit for Battle.


I actually finally got together with some friends to work on a new project that's sounding like Hot Cross mixed with La Dispute and other skramzy things. However... i'm a big fan of busy/trebbly/driving bass lines... so bass-wise it's got a Unwound/Shotmaker/Clikitat Ikatowi vibe... haha.. so we'll see how it goes! :bassist:


EDIT: also, my old band played with a lot of those mid/early 00's bands... we did a weekend with CTTS and played some of the early shows with IWSMOFFY, Funeral Diner, Kite Flying Society, An Albatross... etc... (sorry if that sounds name-droppy... i'm just stoaked that someone might actually know who those bands are!!)
 

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