Don't teach this ole dog any new tricks!

[wboyd68]

At some point I decided that the only real thing of value that I have is time, and for me, screwing around with old computers is just not worth it.

 

[Neil Folkard]

They've just implemented the Zoom phone where I work. Do you have a phone at all?

Landline. $6.34 a month.

 

[bass player 53]

Landline. $6.34 a month.

Wow, very inexpensive.

 

[DigitalMan]

Somewhere there's a guy with an HD-DVD player holding out on streaming.

Power to ya.

 

[vvvmmm]

I have a smart phone because security and battery - it has my VOIP and a calendar app and none else

I use Reaper on Win11 now since this past winter but was on XPpro with Cool Edit for the last 20 - just couldn't get the CEP right on Win11

so I got Reaper onna new computer (my XP ride bit it on it's 3rd OS HD) and with 2 months was comfortable enuff onnit that when someone gave me Audition I installed it for the noise reduction, but stuck with Reaper

on the other hand, I consider Mac akin to, well, not as bad as Tesla mebbe, but unacceptable to me so, YMMV

(for, eh, "Luddite cred", my first CD was Sea Hags and my second was Appetite for ... so I got off vinyl pretty late and I still buy CD's as my primary music media, and most of my amps and mebbe 1/3 of my axes are "vintage")

 

[definenredefine]

I'd love to use tape sometimes! My dad had an old reel-to-reel that was fun to play with, but it got ruined in a flood.

I bought a couple of tape machines but they both ended up sitting, so I probably won't go down that road again. I'm not Steve Albini, after all...

 

[Major Seven]

"The things you own end up owning you." - Tyler Durden
Case in point:

@toastw, I think you're selling yourself way short here. Coming to grips with the new stuff would be child's play compared to what you're already doing in your (ultimately futile I'm afraid) effort to avoid it. Ironic that you're doing expert-level work to avoid beginner-level change.

This is how I came to linux. I had to learn so much I thought it might as well be linux I was learning. Similar learning curve.

 

[Neil Folkard]

Somewhere there's a guy with an HD-DVD player holding out on streaming.

Power to ya.

I know a lot of people who don't stream music, and I'm sure there and some who don't pay for multiple streaming services either.

 

[bass player 53]

I know a lot of people who don't stream music, and I'm sure there and some who don't pay for multiple streaming services either.

I don't use streaming services. I can find anything worthwhile on YouTube for free. I don't mind the stupid commercials. If I want to play along for long periods of time, I just buy the CD.

 

[DJ Bebop]

I'm like OP, but not because of reluctance to learn new software, but cost. Last time I upgraded pro tools, I went from 8 to 10 for free from a friend working for Avid. Because of OS/ hardware incompatibilities, free ended up costing somewhere between $1,200 and $2,000.

That was a pro tools issue. Reaper, Sonar, Audition...none cared about the hardware/OS. Unfortunately, at the time, PT was a necessary evil.

We have an old computer that is running Audition and gets used still.

 

[Major Seven]

I don't use streaming services. I can find anything worthwhile on YouTube for free. I don't mind the stupid commercials. If I want to play along for long periods of time, I just buy the CD.

Download a copy from YouTube and the ads are not included in your copy.

 

[DigitalMan]

I know a lot of people who don't stream music, and I'm sure there and some who don't pay for multiple streaming services either.

Anecdotal anachronism will be the name of my next band.

 

[bass player 53]

Download a copy from YouTube and the ads are not included in your copy.

Yes, I have a DVD/ CD recorder. You have to buy the correct recordable blank CD's. I've stock-pilled them. I generally like to support the artists, but these days that probably doesn't happen. I've read that live performing artists make most of their money from merch. There's something wrong with that equation.

 

[Neil Folkard]

Anecdotal anachronism will be the name of my next band.

Don't forget that a lot of younger people download stuff, or otherwise 'find it' online, so they haven't necessarily taken up streaming as the current way to go, at least when it comes to TV and movies.

 

[DigitalMan]

Don't forget that a lot of younger people download stuff, or otherwise 'find it' online, so they haven't necessarily taken up streaming as the current way to go, at least when it comes to TV and movies.

My main point was clearly about clutching on to something clearly obsolete (HD DVD).

And streaming versus finding online or downloading are all fundamentally the same thing in the context of being the alternative to owning a commercially produced physical media copy of something. And that's just the analogy. The real topic here is perpetual versus subscription software licensing (and the absurd lengths a person might go to in order to continue to use what they own when the entire hardware and OS stack that supports it is now obsolete and unsupported).

 

[Major Seven]

My main point was clearly about clutching on to something clearly obsolete (HD DVD).

And streaming versus finding online or downloading are all fundamentally the same thing in the context of being the alternative to owning a commercially produced physical media copy of something. And that's just the analogy. The real topic here is perpetual versus subscription software licensing (and the absurd lengths a person might go to in order to continue to use what they own when the entire hardware and OS stack that supports it is now obsolete and unsupported).

I go around buying (used) incandescent light bulbs at flea markets.

 

[Stylee Mousse]

I have several "galactica" computers, one 90's desktop running cool edit pro and a MacBook with Logic 9.

They never touch the web, don't get updates, continue to work with older hardware.

I pretty much only use them as multitracks and mixers

 

[DigitalMan]

I go around buying (used) incandescent light bulbs at flea markets.

And you don't see the difference between a light socket that hasn't changed in 100 years versus computer software and hardware that typically has 5-7 years of support life before requiring an update?

At least with bulbs that expensive to run it justifies walking around the house like a curmudgeon growling whenever someone leaves the lights on.

 

[definenredefine]

I know a lot of people who don't stream music, and I'm sure there and some who don't pay for multiple streaming services either.

Only streaming service (if you can even call it that) I use is Bandcamp because I can listen to whatever I want free, then buy if I wanna. And when I do buy, I can get just the digital album or both physical and digital media. Most importantly, though, most (and, on "Bandcamp Fridays", all) of the money goes to the musicians.

 

[brianrost]

I have been using whatever hardware I come across loaded with Ubuntu, a linux based freeware operating system. It was super easy to learn. I only use Audacity for recording, it is also free and runs on just about anything.

I don't think toastw is going to be interested in moving from Pro Tools to Audacity.

Linux is a great idea for those who want to avoid Microsoft and Apple and are willing to live with much reduced option of apps.

Most pro level DAWs do not run on Linux. Ardour and Reaper are really the only pro options. Bitwig is there for Live devotees. The rest of Linux friendly DAWs are hobbyist grade only.