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Double Bass Double Bass Audition Winners
- Thread starter kpo
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No need to be condescending. I'm a high school senior making a observation... If I'm uninformed, say so.
On a completely different subject, I thought that this article was interesting.
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"Orchestras stay mum about audition results until hirings are finalized, but a posting on a widely read Internet forum for bassists (Read: Talkbass) recently pegged Hanna as the winner of the Chicago Symphony's principal chair, pending a trial."
I think it's an interesting sign when the Detroit Free Press turns to talkbass for news. Thoughts?
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"Orchestras stay mum about audition results until hirings are finalized, but a posting on a widely read Internet forum for bassists (Read: Talkbass) recently pegged Hanna as the winner of the Chicago Symphony's principal chair, pending a trial."
I think it's an interesting sign when the Detroit Free Press turns to talkbass for news. Thoughts?
ILIA said:Thanks for your figure. Now we have three numbers to choose from!!!
I quoted the ICSOM Settlement Bulletins, and I stand by their publications for the last two decades. Of course, like many professional orchestras (especially pit orchestras), there will always be over-scale and overtime and off-season payments and moonlighting opportunities, but in keeping with the practice of IM audition adds and ICSOM Settlement Bulletins, I quoted the minimum guaranteed salary. I would do that for any orchestra where salary is a discussion point.
NYCBO plays around 10 services per week sometimes 12 and players are required to play 6 services minimum. ICSOM info is only for the minimum services. If you play all of services you make over 80k easily for section not mention title players. Most major orchestras have fixed services so there are not much differences between minimum and maximum pay. Also, I recall the NYCBO 3 bass auditions happened in early 2000's from 2001-2003 had about 60 applicants for each audition. My point here is, it doesn't hurt to put NYCBO on the audition winner lists. It is also part of Lincoln center which is largest art complex in the nation may be in the world? I am just trying to share info here since I happen to know some inside info. And encourage people that we still have great jobs around keep practice hard! Cheers!
Not to mention that many of the members (bass or otherwise) play in other local groups including the Mostly Mozart Festival, New York Pops, American Composers Orchestra, etc. Some even play with the Chamber Music Society.
The musicians in the NYC Ballet and the NYC Opera (hopefully they'll survive and start to thrive again) are a first stop for subs for many of the top orchestras, such as the LSO and Israel Philharmonic, when they come into Lincoln Center and Carnegie Hall.
I could care less if the audition winners for the NYC Ballet are on this list, but to discredit the players in the NYC Ballet, many of who are at the top of their game and teach at Juilliard, MSM, and Mannes, and say the group is not on par with other full time orchestras is ridiculous.
That is interesting. I guess it's really the only major source when looking for orchestral audition winners for double bass spots (such a specific thing to ask). Orchestras usually keep really quiet about that kind of stuff, especially when there hasn't actually been a final decision made. On that note, however, it was announced today that Alex did officially get the position. Major props to him.
Where'd you hear it? I don't doubt Alex won, I figured he would, I'm just interested to hear.
That's awesome for him, it's just sad to see him go here in Detroit.
That's awesome for him, it's just sad to see him go here in Detroit.
I have a relative that works for the orchestra and usually knows what's up on the audition front. Pretty cool that I can find out about that sort of stuff right away when it happens!
Haha, awesome. I actually saw Alex today, we had a sectional with him, and he confirmed it himself that he's leaving for chicago
I asked him about that, and he basically said that what kind of strings he used was irrelevant. He told us what works on his bass is useless for anybody else.
Oh good, now there will be yearly auditions in Detroit for the next 5 years to hone my audition skills.
HAHAHA!
Reminds me of the Kiss-tuning of a guitar. A guy who was a huge kiss-fan (the glam-rock group) and tuned his guitar so that the tuners were pointed the same way as the Kiss-guitarist's tuners on the poster on his wall. That would, he figured, enable him to play that awesome guitar solo.
bejoyous said:
Same, haha. And supposedly one of the section players is leaving as well.
http://m.npr.org/story/144193341?ur...sical-off-the-pedestal-into-black-communities
