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Drummer kept the cash. Worth saying something?

#81
I was sort of teasing about ASCAP but some of you may not know ASCAP has agents that visit bars that have live bands and check in on how much the band gets and who's songs are being played. I don't think it's much worry for the band, it's a sort of tradition for the house to pay ASCAP from what I read. So if you do arrange your own gig, be ready for a surprise, it may or may not happen. Call it friendly advice, not a threat. I was warned about it in the 80's. I also hear many big time bands may not ping the band for a low pay gig.
That's a part I need to review but I don't see me on any tours or even bar gigs.
 
#84
One gig may not mean much but say there are 10,000 bands playing across the country or continent Friday and Saturday night. That's $10,000,000 payed out on someone else's songs in two nights, maybe a high estimate but not so fair to the original artists who made the songs. I don't know the exact numbers, just a guess.

I'm thinking, what if I had songs in that pot ? I'd be wanting mine and that's for sure. It's a business and occupation although no real standards for the musician occupation.

Here's a government post of average salary, about $25/hour each for small bands.

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#85
Glad it seems to be working out fine in the end as far as getting the rest of your cheese, but curiosity has me wondering if the drummer foolishly tried to pull a fa$t one, or is he usually just a doofus with short term memory loss?? (FIRED! :rage: )

I almost always give unknown people the benefit of the doubt unless they look and act shady upon meeting, or I hear different about them from others.

In any case, I would very politely have brought it up with the BL after the fact (as you did.) I have a bad habit of not always counting monies paid on the spot ... been getting better at that cuz people do make mistakes.
 
#87
lfmn16 said:
Your issue is with the band leader, not the drummer. Tell the band leader you agreed to play for $100 and only got $50. He may not even be aware that you were cheated.
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Well said. No harm telling the truth and getting to the bottom of it. You made an agreement; it's not out of turn to ask the band leader to hold up his end after you held up yours.
 
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aprod said:
It has been said before but when they handed you $50 why didn't you immediately ask where is the other $50?
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to be honest I was pretty ripped and enjoying myself and I wasn't interested in making it a big issue at that point, and like i said 50 bucks isn't going to make or break me...it's the dishonesty/sneakiness behind it that got to me.

If it had been more money that was involved I would have said something on the spot though.
 
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ThuzzleFump said:
This is why I am a hobbyist. Would not have patience for this kind of foolishness and for $50 you might as well skip the headaches and the drunks and just invite people to your practice space if you want an audience.
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Yeah, theres a lot to be said for that. Honestly Im really not a fan of playing out these days. Really don't like the late nights, load ins/outs, drunks, sound issues and what not that go with it. I'd much rather just rent studio time and jam with friends, but the majority of people I know who play and play well enough to satisfy me want to play gigs, so there really isn't getting around that.
 
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glocke1 said:
Yeah, theres a lot to be said for that. Honestly Im really not a fan of playing out these days. Really don't like the late nights, load ins/outs, drunks, sound issues and what not that go with it. I'd much rather just rent studio time and jam with friends, but the majority of people I know who play and play well enough to satisfy me want to play gigs, so there really isn't getting around that.
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Yeah, I hear you. I feel like if I were going to start playing out again (it's been ages because I put my bass away to be a corporate drone) I'd probably just do private parties, weddings, and corporate events. Or just have friends over and play at my own house and make it a party. And with the tiny amount that bar gigs pay now (I mean, we made $100 each playing club gigs in the 80s) the only motivation for a regular guy is the joy of music.
 
#95
nautipaul said:
I don't know if it's worth it. I do know the old saying "screw me once, shame on you.. screw me twice, shame on me" I'd never work with him again. They are not the only band in town...
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Yeah, the older I get the more I have learned to let things go and choose my battles. This sounds like a case where being the better person is the most important part of the equation.
 
#98
$50 today, some hits and big pay gigs and it might be 5,000 or 50,000 who knows. I fell into a situation of once a mistake, twice a fool, but it won't go on to three times an imbecile or four times hopeless. Five times and I'm in need of a gender check LOL

Sorry you had to get that feeling of letdown. Let it help you see the value in those you can surely trust.
 
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