Let me make this as simple as I can.
He's the drummer!
You know what needs to be done.
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Drummer kept the cash. Worth saying something?
- Thread starter glocke1
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He's the drummer!
You know what needs to be done.
You probably should've done it there and then but talk to the BL and let him sort it out.
If the drummer says he paid you the full hundred and you've no witnesses I guess you can write it off as an expensive lesson in trust.
If the drummer says he paid you the full hundred and you've no witnesses I guess you can write it off as an expensive lesson in trust.
You contact the band leader and let him sort it out. Bands are no different from any other business. If there is a "band leader" he is the owner and/or manager. If you have a problem with an employee of a business you go to his manager.
Be professional but firm.
Be professional but firm.
The drummer doesn't think you deserved it, but that's his problem & the band leader.
I'm wondering why the band leader let the drummer make the pay disbursement. Something he should be doing.
Get the money or don't play for them again.
To be clear, I'm not saying you didn't deserve the extra cash, but that's what people have in their heads when they short us.
Definitely mention it, otherwise the drummer will rip you off you again when get gets the chance.
I'm wondering why the band leader let the drummer make the pay disbursement. Something he should be doing.
Get the money or don't play for them again.
To be clear, I'm not saying you didn't deserve the extra cash, but that's what people have in their heads when they short us.
Definitely mention it, otherwise the drummer will rip you off you again when get gets the chance.
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+1. If the drummer doesn't come clean, when the band leader is able to resume playing again, he can then elect not to pay the drummer for a future gig.
Why would you send him flowers?
As is most of the responses here, go get your cash. It’s not petty, it’s a deal. In the future with this band I’d suggest requiring payment up front.
Yeah next time you really have to go directly to the bandleader, with a cash deal there's really nothing to stop the drummer from going "I don't know what he's talking about I handed him the $100 right there", if he's shady enough to short you then I wouldn't count on it.
If you showed up and only played half the set and then walked off without a word, that wouldn't be right. You did what you said you were going to do, it's on them to do what they said they were going to do.
If you showed up and only played half the set and then walked off without a word, that wouldn't be right. You did what you said you were going to do, it's on them to do what they said they were going to do.
No problem. Eventually they'll need you to sub again. Agree and no show. Even Steven. 
Seriously, as others have pointed out, this isn't petty, is potentially harmful to your reputation among other musicians, should have been addressed at the time, and may take more effort to undo now without any witnesses or proof. Fix it pronto. That said, advise the BL of the "error/mishap/oversight" of the missing half of your night's pay. It could have simply been miscommunication between the BL and the percussionist. Always take the high road in these matters, never begin by pointing fingers. That's how you lose fingers. In the future get a contract from the BL with your pay listed on it. If questioned, explain that you wish to avoid any more "errors/mishaps/oversights". Best of luck to you and I hope this helps.
Seriously, as others have pointed out, this isn't petty, is potentially harmful to your reputation among other musicians, should have been addressed at the time, and may take more effort to undo now without any witnesses or proof. Fix it pronto. That said, advise the BL of the "error/mishap/oversight" of the missing half of your night's pay. It could have simply been miscommunication between the BL and the percussionist. Always take the high road in these matters, never begin by pointing fingers. That's how you lose fingers. In the future get a contract from the BL with your pay listed on it. If questioned, explain that you wish to avoid any more "errors/mishaps/oversights". Best of luck to you and I hope this helps.
You should bring it up. You should have brought it up immediately with the drummer when he only paid you $50.
Did you make your compensation agreement with the Drummer? If he may not have been aware of what the agreement was. This could just be a misunderstanding. That said, I’m not a vengeful person by nature, but if it is not resolved, that would be the last time I’d have anything to do with them.
When he laid 1/2 of the agreed amount in your hand you should have spoken up then. But you missed that chance. I'd give the BL a call, tell him what happened, and see what he says. Anything other than "oh yeah? Sorry, I'll make that good" would indicate he's shady ... and is reason enough to delete his number from your phone (ie; never work for him again). And be sure to tell friends and acquaintance (whom he might try to use in the future) how you were treated. And no, don't agree to a future gig and then ditch ... you don't want the same bad rep you're gonna lay on him!
Pay for gigs happens before the first note is played. It's not wonder why pay for musicians is where it's at.
You really should have mentioned it at the time. Situations like this don't age like fine wine, they turn to vinegar. I think you need to bring it up with the B/L, but don't expect to get your $50. The drummer probably kept it & will deny shorting you, so it's your word against his. Still, make the B/L aware, for future reference. You also might consider requiring payment in full from this band before you play a note (or set up), if you ever sub for them again.
you could kinda ' play dumb ' ... did i misunderstand the payment plan ..?? explain to BL what you rec'd , versus what 'you thought ' you heard/understood ..!??
just a question .!??
next time ... get those dollar arrangements in an ' email ' ( in writing ) ... no questions then ..!
just a question .!??
next time ... get those dollar arrangements in an ' email ' ( in writing ) ... no questions then ..!
Is it worth saying something? Yes. Are you being petty? No.
You have to strike while the iron is hot! As others above have said, you should’ve brought up the fact that you were due $100 right when the drummer paid you. By letting time go by and then bringing it up instead of reacting right away to what happened, people will forget what they said or did.
The drummer’s behavior is suspicious because he avoided you the rest of the night indicating a guilty conscious. But maybe the drummer misheard or forgot what the band leader told him and that was you were due $100. Tell the drummer nicely what the agreement was and hope for the best.
You have to strike while the iron is hot! As others above have said, you should’ve brought up the fact that you were due $100 right when the drummer paid you. By letting time go by and then bringing it up instead of reacting right away to what happened, people will forget what they said or did.
The drummer’s behavior is suspicious because he avoided you the rest of the night indicating a guilty conscious. But maybe the drummer misheard or forgot what the band leader told him and that was you were due $100. Tell the drummer nicely what the agreement was and hope for the best.
