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drummer on shrooms
- Thread starter sixerguy3
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I don't care if someoe does drugs on thier own time in the safety of thier home, but driving while drugged is not cool. That affects other people's safety. So he had to eat them because there was a cop. Having them in the car in the first place shows bad judgement.
It takes the body a bit of time to break psilocybin down to psilocin. Therefore, it takes a bit of time after eating mushrooms to be affected by them.
Unless this guy was driving across the state to rehearsal, he probably wasn't driving under the influence of mushrooms.
Unless this guy was driving across the state to rehearsal, he probably wasn't driving under the influence of mushrooms.
I had a guitarist I played with who was a great guy. Funny, nice, a little distractable but nothing we couldn't work with. He showed up to practice one night white as a ghost and then proceeded to tell us how he had died on the way here, that he was currently having a heart attack, and other things to that effect. Eventually we managed to deduce that he had gotten ahold of some weed laced with what I'm guessing was ritalin or something of the like.
We didn't really know what to do with him, so we just kinda wound up putting him in a closet with a box of Ding-Dongs and telling him to seat it out (We weren't the most charitable of bandmates) Our drummer (who was a good friend, but a complete ass) wound up blasting Cannibal Corpse in there while the poor guy nearly pissed his pants.
The band wound up breaking up about a month later, but I still keep in touch with the guitarist. He has been clean and sober since the accident, and still gets a little shaky anytime "Hammer Smashed Face" comes up on my Ipod.
We didn't really know what to do with him, so we just kinda wound up putting him in a closet with a box of Ding-Dongs and telling him to seat it out (We weren't the most charitable of bandmates) Our drummer (who was a good friend, but a complete ass) wound up blasting Cannibal Corpse in there while the poor guy nearly pissed his pants.
The band wound up breaking up about a month later, but I still keep in touch with the guitarist. He has been clean and sober since the accident, and still gets a little shaky anytime "Hammer Smashed Face" comes up on my Ipod.
Some people don't understand how weed affects regular users. I live in the emerald triangle, almost everybody on the road is high. I'm not worried about it. We actually have less accidents per capita cause everyone is driving so slow.
Actually, later in his career, Parker admitted that, in his opinion, anybody who thinks that playing "high" is a way to playing better and more creatively, is just jiving himself. Go listen to the disastrous 1946 Dial session that includes the infamous "Max Making Wax" and "Lover Man." After his subsequent breakdown and rehab, he then recorded some of the best stuff of his career, while he was completely clean. And read Art Pepper's bio, Straight Life, too...he comes to the same conclusions...
in an age with smartphones that have decent cameras.... you have no excuse to not have recorded that
+1. seems to me that some of the people here take life a bit too seriously. or maybe just this but.. honestly, i never will be in that situation. i know myself well enough to see that psychadelics would carry me away, that's why i'm never going to take them. but when it comes down to it, i don't blame the guy for doing what he did. if i was in that situation, and i knew i could handle it, i'd dispose of the substance rather than get busted for it. mushrooms aren't like other things; if they don't see it, it's not there. it's not reeking your car up or anything.. well, that's just me anyways.
well, if the OP's band member had been the one driving all the gear (which he wasn't) to a big gig (which, they were practicing) i might be more inclined to agree. otherwise i don't see anything in common with the OP's story and YOURS.
infamusblkdeath said:
You are right. It has nothing in common, YET...unless you count the fact that he's driving around with illegal substances in his vehicle.
Side note...I tried tuning an acoustic guitar by ear once as a shroom trip kicked in. Absolutely impossible lol. I tried for 10 minutes before I gave up and couldn't figure out what was wrong.
I stumbled bck onto this threadI know, old as heck) and will add something that hasn't been mentioned - first prefacing this that I am herb friendly myself, but would be totally pissed if someone showed up for practice or a gig high/drunk.
My thought: fellow band mates who are driving to practice or a gig could be putting YOU in a seious legal predicament. [In most parts of the USA]If they have an accident, the entire band could be sued, even if you are NOT incorporated and have never made a dime from playing together. Seriously, I was looking into incorporating our band, and that was an issue that was raised over and over. Incorporating won't stop you from possibly being linked to legal problems created by fellow band mates, but it will stop your asets from being attacked if it comes down to it.
Besides the hazard on the road,etc., someone showing up for practice in altered state of mind wastes the collective time and energy of everyone else there. THeir drive time, their time there, the time they could have been working, sleeping, chasing tail, whatever. I would forgive one time, but he'd get one serious talkin too when he came down!
I personally have always considered playing while intoxicated stressful. I'd rather be sharp as a tack and self-critiquing every note hard, then getting all comfortable and feeling like, "sounds great", when it doesn't.
My thought: fellow band mates who are driving to practice or a gig could be putting YOU in a seious legal predicament. [In most parts of the USA]If they have an accident, the entire band could be sued, even if you are NOT incorporated and have never made a dime from playing together. Seriously, I was looking into incorporating our band, and that was an issue that was raised over and over. Incorporating won't stop you from possibly being linked to legal problems created by fellow band mates, but it will stop your asets from being attacked if it comes down to it.
Besides the hazard on the road,etc., someone showing up for practice in altered state of mind wastes the collective time and energy of everyone else there. THeir drive time, their time there, the time they could have been working, sleeping, chasing tail, whatever. I would forgive one time, but he'd get one serious talkin too when he came down!
I personally have always considered playing while intoxicated stressful. I'd rather be sharp as a tack and self-critiquing every note hard, then getting all comfortable and feeling like, "sounds great", when it doesn't.
All the other arguing aside, I am curious how the rest of the band might be held liable for this guy's actions if he had actually caused an accident, for example.
How could his actions, as an individual who is for all intents and purposes, an individual and not a legally documented member acting on behalf of an organization (band)?
Can you give me an example of how this works?
How could his actions, as an individual who is for all intents and purposes, an individual and not a legally documented member acting on behalf of an organization (band)?
Can you give me an example of how this works?
Wow, I just read this whole thread. It was quite a.....wait for it....trip! Ba-dum-kshh.
The whole part where he got pulled over and ate all the shrooms, does that not remind anybody else of the opening of Super Troopers?
Anyways, I see both sides of the debate here. Yeah, you really shouldn't be driving around baked as $hi*, but from the sounds of it, he was not, he had a little weed, and the shrooms wouldn't have kicked in until he was probably already at practice.
For people saying it's "unprofessional" and that apparently no one's ever made it while abusing substances, well, I think we all know that's a bit silly of a statement. I would never want to be ripped for a gig, but for a practice, a little high wouldn't concern me. As long as the musician can play and remember what's going on, if he smoked a little, that doesn't concern me. Same as if he'd had a beer before coming in. Obviously shrooms are gonna mess you a little bit more, and I'd be a bit perturbed about some guy PURPOSEFULLY coming to practice tripping face, it sounds like he realizes it was a mistake, and did not intend to for that course of action.
I do know this though: I would way rather have smoked a joint than had a beer before I play. I've done both, and while the Jay is just relaxing and doesn't hardly affect my motor skills, a beer makes my hands feel kind of numb. I will never drink again before playing.
And finally, I will leave you with these words of wisdom: The Snozberries taste like Snozberries.
The whole part where he got pulled over and ate all the shrooms, does that not remind anybody else of the opening of Super Troopers?
Anyways, I see both sides of the debate here. Yeah, you really shouldn't be driving around baked as $hi*, but from the sounds of it, he was not, he had a little weed, and the shrooms wouldn't have kicked in until he was probably already at practice.
For people saying it's "unprofessional" and that apparently no one's ever made it while abusing substances, well, I think we all know that's a bit silly of a statement. I would never want to be ripped for a gig, but for a practice, a little high wouldn't concern me. As long as the musician can play and remember what's going on, if he smoked a little, that doesn't concern me. Same as if he'd had a beer before coming in. Obviously shrooms are gonna mess you a little bit more, and I'd be a bit perturbed about some guy PURPOSEFULLY coming to practice tripping face, it sounds like he realizes it was a mistake, and did not intend to for that course of action.
I do know this though: I would way rather have smoked a joint than had a beer before I play. I've done both, and while the Jay is just relaxing and doesn't hardly affect my motor skills, a beer makes my hands feel kind of numb. I will never drink again before playing.
And finally, I will leave you with these words of wisdom: The Snozberries taste like Snozberries.
Few snips from off the web.
Not many people know this, but as soon as you start working as a band, you've already formed a business... of sorts. Any group of people working towards a goal are officially recognised as a partnership and this has major implication if things turn sour later on.
General Partnership:
A general partnership does not require formal creation, either. This means that you can be sitting around your kitchen with your friends and say, Hey, lets make a band/singing group/musical interpretive dance troupe and you now have formed a general partnership.
As a general partnership, all members are all personally responsible for any debts the partnership may incur or for any legal action taken against the partnership. This means that if a partner takes out a loan, the other partners are jointly and severally liable, and their personal assets can be attached and liquidated to pay off any debts. The same goes for contractual obligations signed by one partnerit binds all others. By personal assets we mean things like money, house, car, etc., so always make sure you trust your partner!
Looking back at this post, I'd have to say I'd be more disappointed that my drummer was burning a joint before practice, than that he took the 'shrooms to avoid getting busted with them. #1- if he wouldn't have been blowing the joint, he wouldn't have to worry about the car reeking, which is why he ate the 'shrooms. He's still a turd for smoking before practice. If your practices are 2 hours and you are a 5 piece, he blew 8 hours of the other bandmates time, not including their drive, etc.
