Dua Lipa "Levitating" infringement lawsuit

[higain617]

12 notes. Good luck. Nothing against an obscure bottom market cracker "reggae" band from Florida who's very essence is copying and cultural appropriation, even their name is a cheeky take on another more popular band. Good luck. If you win (settle) maybe you'll get better gigs for 3 months.

One thing that's a certainty, nobody on DL's team ever heard that band or that song.

Florida is home to the town of Vernon, which had the most residents cutting off limbs to collect disability per capita.

 

[Red Four]

Another plastic pop star and accompanying committee of "songwriters" vacuuming up any source material they can find to pile production tricks on top of and call original. Pop has become so cannibalistic and cynical these days, too much for any thinking person to ignore or stomach.

Having grown up in a time when genuine musical geniuses were on the radio every day, it's a real shame how cheated the current generation is, and most of them don't even realize it.

 

[smtp4me]

None of this has anything to do with whether Dua copied their song, unless you are claiming they in turn copied it from someone else.


Having read the complaint, I can assure you it does not allege that they invented the chord progression. There's more in common than the chord progression, to my ear (having only listened to a snippet. The melody? The (some) words?

Oh I'm sure they are not claiming ownership of the progression. I was being facetious . My point is that the 1, 4, 5 chord progression is about as common in music as the phrase "good morning" is in English. I'm not a legal expert, but I believe copyright and trademark infringement does not apply when something is very common.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Having grown up in a time when genuine musical geniuses were on the radio every day, it's a real shame how cheated the current generation is, and most of them don't even realize it.

“It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain.

 

[mambo4]

My kid loves Dua Lipa , so I pretty much know Levitating by heart.
I just listened the Artikal Sound System tune in its entirety .

There is far more different and original melody in the Dua Lipa song.
you could easily notate both and see they are different
The Artikal Sound System tune has maybe 50% of a chorus matching up,
and it only plays once (0:20-0:40) the rest is completely unlike Levitating, except the chords perhaps.

I don't think there is a case at all

 

[Skygoneblue]

12 notes. Good luck. Nothing against an obscure bottom market cracker "reggae" band from Florida who's very essence is copying and cultural appropriation, even their name is a cheeky take on another more popular band. Good luck. If you win (settle) maybe you'll get better gigs for 3 months.

One thing that's a certainty, nobody on DL's team ever heard that band or that song.

Ok so, copyright infringement is ok, but people playing musical styles that don't align with their ethnicity is not?

You're kind of all over the place here dude.

 

[lermgalieu]

Oh I'm sure they are not claiming ownership of the progression. I was being facetious . My point is that the 1, 4, 5 chord progression is about as common in music as the phrase "good morning" is in English. I'm not a legal expert, but I believe copyright and trademark infringement does not apply when something is very common.

Again, listen to the melody and the words.

 

[Killing Floor]

Ok so, copyright infringement is ok, but people playing musical styles that don't align with their ethnicity is not?

You're kind of all over the place here dude.

Copyright infringement is not OK. UK based global superstar with a song that has some elements of of rhythm similar to a bar band from Florida, still think calling that infringement.

Oh, wait, what’s that? Artikal Sound System (not intentionally named after LCD Sound System) registered their song with BMI in October, 2021.
Want me to save you some time and tell you when Dua Lipa’s Levitating was published?
There’s always math if we need to do it. DL will win on that basis alone. Not that she would have heard that song.

 

[lermgalieu]

Want me to save you some time and tell you when Dua Lipa’s Levitating was published?
There’s always math if we need to do it. DL will win on that basis alone. Not that she would have heard that song.

This conclusion isn’t true at all. Even if that was the date when they registered the copyright itself, it wouldn’t be true. Registering the song was most likely suggested by their attorney, because it yields certain advantages in litigation. It’s not evidence that they didn’t have copyright before then (copyright vests, at latest, when the song is publicly performed or played or made available), nor is it evidence they are doing anything other than approaching this in a smart way (legally).

 

[Killing Floor]

This conclusion isn’t true at all. Even if that was the date when they registered the copyright itself, it wouldn’t be true. Registering the song was most likely suggested by their attorney, because it yields certain advantages in litigation. It’s not evidence that they didn’t have copyright before then (copyright vests, at latest, when the song is publicly performed or played or made available), nor is it evidence they are doing anything other than approaching this in a smart way (legally).

Guess we’ll wait and see.

I usually like a David and Goliath story but this is not that. This is extortion and it’s as bad or worse than what their lawsuit is suggesting.

 

[fishdude101101]

I think one of the most toe curlingy awkward, and embarrassing things I've seem in recent years, is Dua Lipa's episode of "Song Exploder" on Netflix.

The whole series (and also the podcast) is terrific, and inspiring.

With artists as varied as Lin-Manuel Miranda, and Nine Inch Nails taking a deep dive into their writing, and creative process, and several episodes featuring Flood & Alan Moulder showing exactly what real record producers do.

And then we come to Dua Lipa's episode, where a large team of writers try to negotiate their way around exactly what it is they all do, or what this half baked, paper-thin idea by committee means on a personal level.

Meanwhile, poor old Dua is reduced to politely smiling, and offering niceties about the whole experience, before the episode has to deal with the elephant in the room, that is the sample the song is based around. And now the whole thing gets derailed having to acknowledge that they've basically copied the whole idea from "Your Woman" by White Town, which itself is based around an obscure sample from a 1930's recording.

At this point, the viewer (and apparently the participants) would rather the episode were actually about "Your Woman" by White Town, because it's a vastly more interesting, and inspiring personal story about an Indian kid recording a track on consumer gear, in his bedroom, sending it in to a Sunday morning radio slot, and it getting picked up by the national station, put into rotation, and becoming a smash hit.

Dua is a legit superstar, and a terrific performer, but she really needs to develop as a songwriter in her own right.

I mean she's famous because she can sing fairly well, dance, and she's very attractive by most people's standards. The songs are simple enough (and I really like them) that there has to be that extra quality to sell them. They can't just put anyone out there and get the same result. I don't know if songwriting is really what will ever pay her bills.

 

[bass12]

Copyright infringement is not OK. UK based global superstar with a song that has some elements of of rhythm similar to a bar band from Florida, still think calling that infringement.

Oh, wait, what’s that? Artikal Sound System (not intentionally named after LCD Sound System) registered their song with BMI in October, 2021.
Want me to save you some time and tell you when Dua Lipa’s Levitating was published?
There’s always math if we need to do it. DL will win on that basis alone. Not that she would have heard that song.

Regarding LCD Soundsystem: I doubt Artikal Sound System was taking any kind of cue from them. The name is clearly a reference to Jamaican sound systems, just as it was for acts such as Ex-Centric Sound System and Twilight Circus Dub Sound System (both of which preceded LCD).

 

[Killing Floor]

Regarding LCD Soundsystem: I doubt Artikal Sound System was taking any kind of cue from them. The name is clearly a reference to Jamaican sound systems, just as it was for acts such as Ex-Centric Sound System and Twilight Circus Dub Sound System (both of which preceded LCD).

I’ve been to Jamaica. I’ve been to Delray, Florida. I listened to their song and several others from their website earlier today. I’m gonna say it’s a long reach to associate this band with anything from Jamaica. But sure. Let’s just lay it on. They’re basically the next incarnation of Steel Pulse. Right?

 

[DJ Bebop]

I’ve been to Jamaica. I’ve been to Delray, Florida. I listened to their song and several others from their website earlier today. I’m gonna say it’s a long reach to associate this band with anything from Jamaica. But sure. Let’s just lay it on. They’re basically the next incarnation of Steel Pulse. Right?

When l saw the description of a reggae band being ripped off, l listened to the track. I'm still waiting for the reggae.

:Ol



Ok, so I heard their other track, "Time."
Reminds me of a SoCal reggae band.
I'll let you be the judge of what that means.

 

[bass12]

I’ve been to Jamaica. I’ve been to Delray, Florida. I listened to their song and several others from their website earlier today. I’m gonna say it’s a long reach to associate this band with anything from Jamaica. But sure. Let’s just lay it on. They’re basically the next incarnation of Steel Pulse. Right?

I’m not saying the band sounds like it’s from Jamaica (not that Steel Pulse sounds like it’s from Jamaica either if you want to get nit-picky about it), just that they likely did not take any inspiration from LCD.

 

[bass12]

When l saw the description of a reggae band being ripped off, l listened to the track. I'm still waiting for the reggae.

:Ol



Ok, so I heard their other track, "Time."
Reminds me of a SoCal reggae band.
I'll let you be the judge of what that means.

That track isn’t reggae (at least not the clip I heard), but the other two tracks I listened to from that band were.

 

[DJ Bebop]

That track isn’t reggae (at least not the clip I heard), but the other two tracks I listened to from that band were.

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Dua Lipa "Levitating" infringement lawsuit

 

[Killing Floor]

When l saw the description of a reggae band being ripped off, l listened to the track. I'm still waiting for the reggae.

:Ol

Haha, yeah. I’m not saying white, suburban, sorority girls can’t be irie. A “reggae” show in Tampa is a lot different than a reggae show in Falmouth. But anyway, it’s not the same song.

 

[Wood and Wire]

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[DJ Bebop]

Haha, yeah. I’m not saying white, suburban, sorority girls can’t be irie. A “reggae” show in Tampa is a lot different than a reggae show in Falmouth. But anyway, it’s not the same song.

I did know this band that had the same looking lead singer but she had dis nasty funky ting she worked well and was "irie"