Dunwich Amplification General Discussion

[Korladis]

It is a very OD/amp-like fuzz, and not terribly harsh/synth/gated. Just saying
Actually, there are some Wizard settings you can "approximate" with the ODB (IME, YMMV).


Honestly, I think the thing holding me back from snatching one is the fact that I love the graphics on my OG Wizard so much more than this one... even more than getting a blend in a smaller box. Silly, but true.

Eh, I'm personally not big on blends. A Dunwich blend probably sounds better than most, but I don't think his pedals need them anyway.

 

[bassboysam]

i'm anti blend also. never soumds right. go dirty or go home. compensate for any low end loss with massive volume boost.

 

[Matt Dean]

I used to be anti blend, but after using quality blends like on the Damnation MBD-1 (Dunwich contributed to the design) I’ve become a convert.

 

[Maxfenderbass]

I used to be anti blend, but after using quality blends like on the Damnation MBD-1 (Dunwich contributed to the design) I’ve become a convert.

I agree with you on this one, the MBD-1 blend is just ridiculous. It is very musical.

 

[monsterthompson]

Any ODB setting in particular you can reference? I use the 125b version, Cut and Clip switches both to the left.

I’ve got the big box ODB. I’ll try to get a setting.

In general, the softer, squishy, compressed clipping diode setting (MOSFET, I believe) and a bit of mid cut on the EQ, with no low-cut setting on the switch.

 

[donahue]

Any ODB setting in particular you can reference? I use the 125b version, Cut and Clip switches both to the left.

Go switches right, gain max, bass 3:00, treb noon, mid 11:00, master to taste. Thats my knar setting. Has nothing do do with the Wizard but its a big "fuzz" setting for me. Hard to see in the zoomed pic.

 

[monsterthompson]

I used to be anti blend, but after using quality blends like on the Damnation MBD-1 (Dunwich contributed to the design) I’ve become a convert.

The COG 66 mini has a nice blend, also. The roll-off in the highs is key.

 

[donahue]

A properly executed blend is a poor man's stereo rig....and lets be honest, there's no substitute for a great stereo rig. Imo of course.

 

[donahue]

And to add to that: a clean blend doesn't have to be clean. It's blending whatever you have going up until that point. If you have some crazy distortion before your pedal that has blend, now your blending in distortion, fuzz etc with whatever that pedal does i.e. potentially blending two fuzzes or whatever together. Food for thought.

 

[monsterthompson]

And to add to that: a clean blend doesn't have to be clean. It's blending whatever you have going up until that point. If you have some crazy distortion before your pedal that has blend, now your blending in distortion, fuzz etc with whatever that pedal does i.e. potentially blending two fuzzes or whatever together. Food for thought.

I was working on a custom clean blend but it got out of hand. Low pass filter on the clean. High pass on the dirt, etc.

McSpunkle makes a dirty clean blend on the VTF.

 

[BunchyMutt]

I was working on a custom clean blend but it got out of hand. Low pass filter on the clean. High pass on the dirt, etc.

McSpunkle makes a dirty clean blend on the VTF.

oooo good to know

 

[2010P]

I was working on a custom clean blend but it got out of hand. Low pass filter on the clean. High pass on the dirt, etc.

Yes!

The ability to eq the clean and dirty separately is key to making a blend work right imo.

On my plague rat with blend, the clean is pretty much full range, but since it doesn't get affected by the eq (which only eq's the dirty signal) I am able to pull a lot of lows out of the dirty signal so that the two signals blend better.

I think a lot of people are put off by blends because the eq on their pedal is a master eq which affects the clean signal too.

 

[Korladis]

i'm anti blend also. never soumds right. go dirty or go home. compensate for any low end loss with massive volume boost.

Yep. It's supposed to be louder. It works by adding stuff that's mostly in the mids and highs.

I think a clean blend can work when recording, but it should be low passed.

 

[Matt Dean]

Reiner Amplification makes a killer OD with a killer blend.

 

[monsterthompson]

Yes!

The ability to eq the clean and dirty separately is key to making a blend work right imo.

On my plague rat with blend, the clean is pretty much full range, but since it doesn't get affected by the eq (which only eq's the dirty signal) I am able to pull a lot of lows out of the dirty signal so that the two signals blend better.

I think a lot of people are put off by blends because the eq on their pedal is a master eq which affects the clean signal too.

The way I was mapping it out, there was complexity with how the pass filtered clean sound hit the dirt circuit. There is a gain reduction which is a natural occurrence with the pass filtering (cutting signal cuts the signal, surprisingly ). The dirt circuit responds and behaves differently than it does with a full gain clean signal. I had an IE Divaricator for a while, hoping it would shortcut what I wanted to design, but I quickly learned that pass filtering and/or crossover prior to the clipping starts creating new issues to consider. It certainly gets tricky.

The other issue with pass filtering is the fact that it is static, so if you set the filter frequency, you may get clean tones blended in on low notes, but get no blended clean tone on higher notes, if the fundamental is above the filter frequency.

 

[jbybj]

McSpunkle makes a dirty clean blend on the VTF

“Clean-ish”. One of the many lovable things about the VTF.

 

[dunwichamps]

The blend is fairly simple in the WF125B, uses all transistors rather than an op amp.

I guess if someone could fit it all into a pedal the best approach would probably be an adjustable salen key low pass filter on the clean signal to help filter out the high end clack and then whatever you had on the effected signal would just need some kind of post-clipping high pass.

 

[2010P]

The way I was mapping it out, there was complexity with how the pass filtered clean sound hit the dirt circuit. There is a gain reduction which is a natural occurrence with the pass filtering (cutting signal cuts the signal, surprisingly ). The dirt circuit responds and behaves differently than it does with a full gain clean signal. I had an IE Divaricator for a while, hoping it would shortcut what I wanted to design, but I quickly learned that pass filtering and/or crossover prior to the clipping starts creating new issues to consider. It certainly gets tricky.

The other issue with pass filtering is the fact that it is static, so if you set the filter frequency, you may get clean tones blended in on low notes, but get no blended clean tone on higher notes, if the fundamental is above the filter frequency.

I appreciate that reply, but..............

 

[monsterthompson]

I appreciate that reply, but..............

It’s not that complicated, but I used a bunch of words
The bottom line is that you want to modify the clean signal with a filter (extreme EQ) to make it sound best when blended with the distortion. However, that EQ modification changes the signal that hits the distortion circuit, so the character of the distortion changes vs. just sending a raw clean signal to it. I didn’t like the results I got with the blend/loop pedal I tried (the IE Divaracator).

It’d be easier to design a blend as part of the pedal. I was trying to think up a custom blender pedal, so I could insert any pedal I wanted in the blender’s loop. I found it wasn’t as easy as I had hoped for an amateur

 

[donahue]

It’d be easier to design a blend as part of the pedal. I was trying to think up a custom blender pedal, so I could insert any pedal I wanted in the blender’s loop. I found it wasn’t as easy as I had hoped for an amateur

Have you checked out the Damnation Loop Blender? I might be what you're looking for.

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