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Double Bass Duo Recordings

#21
Paul Warburton said:
The unreleased sessions sounds like the Chico Hamilton stuff...Buddy was on those. Did you hear a cello on that? Fred Katz, the cellist. Buddy on reeds, Chico and Carson Smith on bass. I'd love to have that!
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I still haven't listened to it more, but looking at the liner notes... :p

Chico Hamilton is 3 tracks with John Anderson, Buddy Collette, Gerald Wiggins, and Curtis Counce. Recorded Oct. 11, 1956.
 
#22
hdiddy said:
I still haven't listened to it more, but looking at the liner notes... :p
Chico Hamilton is 3 tracks with John Anderson, Buddy Collette, Gerald Wiggins, and Curtis Counce. Recorded Oct. 11, 1956.
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Curtis Counce....Now there's a name from the past. How many of you guys are old enough to remember him? He had a great band in the 50's outta L.A. One of my favorites! Jack Sheldon-trumpet, Harold Land-tenor my MAN, Carl Perkins-piano (not the Carl Perkins you're thinking of) Frank Butler-drums (A MF!) and Counce on bass. Counce wasn't a virtuoso, but a solid meat and potatos bass player.
They did at least two sides on that old Contemporary label.I think they've been re-released on CD, so if you have some extra bread-----trust me. I'll buy 'em
from you if you don't like 'em!!
Another bit of L.A. jazz trivia---that pianist Gerald Wiggins on the Collette side, had a son who was a Mother of a bass player headed for great things. He studied with Red Mitchell. Haven't heard anything about him in years.
There's your PW trivia for today! :)
 
#25
Dave Holland, "Emerald Tears" and Miroslav Vitous, "Emergence"

Even though they aren't new releases, these two discs ought to make musicians think twice about what being acoustic bassist is all about, where the instrument has been in the past, and where the instrument can or might go in the future. IMHO, these cats know how to tell a true story in detail when they solo!

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#28
Paul Warburton said:
Curtis Counce....Now there's a name from the past. How many of you guys are old enough to remember him? He had a great band in the 50's outta L.A. One of my favorites! Jack Sheldon-trumpet, Harold Land-tenor my MAN, Carl Perkins-piano (not the Carl Perkins you're thinking of) Frank Butler-drums (A MF!) and Counce on bass. Counce wasn't a virtuoso, but a solid meat and potatos bass player.
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I love the records of that band. They swing really hard and contain tons of tasteful playing and solos. My friend turned me on to it. In particular to the playing of Carl Perkins on those records--which is really extraordinary. I was able to put other pianists from that period in perspective. Perhaps I have the era wrong but I think Hampton Hawes must've been influenced by him.

And Jack Sheldon is now slouch either! For those of you who were only familiar with him for his clowning around as Merv Griffin's "Doc Severinson"
 
#29
Hey Jon, you'll love this if you haven't heard about it. This is true! Back when this band was going great guns, they came to a to a great club called the Melody Lounge in Denver. I was invited to a piano teachers house for a session, hearing that the Curtis Counce Quintet would be there to hang. This piano teacher told us this story: Carl Perkins was a child prodigy. When he was three years old, he couldn't reach the bass notes with the fingers of his left hand, so he would hit one bass note with his fingers and another with his left elbow! He would hold his left hand with his forearn parallel to the key board to pull this off!
So, I was about seventeen at the time and this teacher would hold these 'student sessions' every month or so, and I would show up with my bass to play along with the students and the teacher.
This was in the days when all jazz pianists played the bass notes with their left hands. Pre-Bill Evans. Anyway not knowing my harmony and theory yet, I would follow piano players left hands to cop the bass notes--a common practice in those days.
Well the band showed up and Ted Alexander, the teacher, asked Carl Perkins to come up and play. I motioned to Curtis to come up and join him. Curtis said: " Man I got a sore finger....you go ahead." I was thrilled until Carl started to play.....I couldn't watch his fingers on his left hand . All I could see was his forearm. He wasn't hitting any notes with his elbow anymore, but habit dictated that he would always hold his left arm that way. Suffice it to say that I didn't play a whole lot of right bass notes that night!
By the way there's a great trio record on Pacific jazz with Carl, Red Mitchell and Jim Hall.
www.allmusic.com Under Jazz Carl Perkins there's a picture of Carl playing...so you can see what I mean. They say in the blurb that this was because of him having polio. I tried to post the pic....it didn't work.
 
#31
Paul Warburton said:
He wasn't hitting any notes with his elbow anymore, but habit dictated that he would always hold his left arm that way. Suffice it to say that I didn't play a whole lot of right bass notes that night!...
By the way there's a great trio record on Pacific jazz with Carl, Red Mitchell and Jim Hall.
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Great story. I would have never known this from listening to him.This is similar to Horace Parlan's situation whom my brother made several albums with. He had better timing than Horace though. The Jim Hall record I'm familiar with. It was Jim's first record that I recall. He wasn't quite Jim Hall yet.
 
#32
nypiano said:
Great story. I would have never known this from listening to him.This is similar to Horace Parlan's situation whom my brother made several albums with. He had better timing than Horace though. The Jim Hall record I'm familiar with. It was Jim's first record that I recall. He wasn't quite Jim Hall yet.
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Jon, you say you're familiar with that trio record...does that mean you have it?
Do you have any idea where I might find it?
Anybody?
Red and Horace used to play alot together. I think they did a few record dates together as well.
I hate to admit it, but i've never heard Horace's son play. Have you? what can you tell me about it? Sorry for the momentary de-rail!
Oh yeah...I think I agree with you about what you said about Hamp Hawes being influenced by Carl. Thet had a few things in common......unfortunately hard drugs being one.
 
#33
wahyong said:
How about Larry Coryell and Emily Remler on guitars in "Together"?
Some amazing playing together- they keep switching playing and accompaniment to and forth. :)
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I seem to remember a thread recently that mentioned guitar/guitar duos and using them to practice bass against, but I can't seem to find it.

At the risk of derailing this thread, are there any recomendations for this? I'm starting work (or should that be "play") with a g/g/b trio shortly, and this sounds like a fun way to help get up to speed.
 
#34
Paul Warburton said:
Jon, you say you're familiar with that trio record...does that mean you have it?
Do you have any idea where I might find it?
Anybody?
Red and Horace used to play alot together. I think they did a few record dates together as well.
I hate to admit it, but i've never heard Horace's son play. Have you? what can you tell me about it? Sorry for the momentary de-rail!
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I may have it on tape. A long time bass friend of mine turned me on to Carl perkins by playing the Curtis Counce record you mentioned and the trio w/ Jim Hall. Jim Hall mentioned it to me also when I interviewed him.
I think my friend gave me a tape of the latter. If I have it, it's somewhere in fibber mcgee's closet. I can't vouch for it but I will definitely look and copy if I can. If not I will ask the friend where he got it from. It might've been from the library actually.

Re: Horace's son. I don't anything about him.
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#36
I picked up two David Friesen CDs from one of his students, who I asked to get them for me directly from David. Both are fairly recent live duo sets with a wonderful acoustic guitarist, Uwe Kropinski. They're on the ITM label, but I had a very difficult time tracking them down in the US. I'll bet one could order direct via Friesen's website though.

I'd second the Brown/Rowles sides as well. I have a couple of them in frequent rotation on my computer.
 
#40
For guitar/ double bass recordings, how'sa 'bout Richard Thompson & Danny ( no, we're not related) Thompson! They have several online live recordings and a whole slew ( what's a "slew"?) of Bootleg recordings. Danny is a master of so many different styles, it boggles the mind. No mindless chops-for-chops -sake, just MUSIC!


Jeffery Dunn
Nashville, Tn.
 

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