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E#. Wait, what?

In a tempered scale, F is sometimes notated as an E# to make it easier to read on a score. But the others are correct: E# is the same note as an F.

From the way your guitarist is talking I doubt he has the knowledge or sophistication to mean an E# microtone where E# would be between E and F. (Doable without bending on a fretless BTW.) So yeah, E-bend up to F-then C-then F (as Chungweishan said earlier) is how most normal "veteran" players would say it.

I worked with a self-taught guitarist once who was a very good songwriter. The only problem was, being entirely self-taught (And proud of it, Man!), he had his own words for everything. (He called chords "stacks" and scales "runs.") It was a real...um..."challenge" collaborating with him at the best of times.

Good luck!
 
Me thinks they were pulling your leg, just for fun. no harm intended.

In the district praise band I am in, I sometimes find myself playing in what I consider odd keys. I do not use sheet music, but most of the time the piano and keys do. There have been times when the keyboard players would have E#, B#, Cb, Fb, Bbb, etc notes. I play mostly using the NNS, and occasionally the charts are easier to read as - 4 4b 3b 2b 1 7b 6 5 (even though a 4b is a three).
 
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E# and B# are what I always consider musical narwhals; notes that sound like they don't really exist in real life, but they do.

That said, I'll usually find them in theatre productions or anything with a singer. Singers tend to sing in sharp keys, and especially in theatre when you go up/down a step during a song (sometimes multiple times), you find those narwhals showing up, ready to make you play the wrong notes and swear in front of the high school kids next to you in the pit.

Not that I know about that, I've just seen it. Yeah, seen it...
 
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If you start reading music, or even fake/real book - you'll see all kinds of #'s and b's that at first glance might not make sense to you. E# does indeed mean the same thing as F for a bass player.

My guitar player and I often notate certain #'s and b's differently when we transpose some of our sheets (like C#'s and Db's), but we are all saying the same thing...you'dig.

However the way your guitar player is describing it as a bend sounds a little suspect. Either he's messing with you, or speaking rock guitar player lingo.
 
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