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EBMM Music Man Basses...why so much $?

Fender used prettier maple in the pre cbs days...obviously. After that..the average Fender neck is nowhere near as grainy..and/or figured as the usual Music Man. You have to pay extra for a quartersawn neck most of the time with Fender.

I don't care for poplar, either. I read somewhere on here that EBMM used that for certain transparent finished U.S. Stingrays. Probably not that many out there, though. Anything Fender-ish needs woods like alder and ash imo.
 
I understand the need to keep up with the economy and such, but double? My trans teal Stingray is one of those basses I regret parting with...even if it was in a trade for a 72 Jazz Bass...and I would love to own another one, but I can not justify paying upwards of $1000 for a 20 year old non-vintage used bass that I once bought new for much less. I have the some complaint about Rickenbackers. I owned two of them back in the day and never paid more than $500 and usually less. Try to find one for under $1000 used now, and forget buying new. The prices of American made instruments is out of control. The possible exception is Carvin.

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I understand the need to keep up with the economy and such, but double? My trans teal Stingray is one of those basses I regret parting with...even if it was in a trade for a 72 Jazz Bass...and I would love to own another one, but I can not justify paying upwards of $1000 for a 20 year old non-vintage used bass that I once bought new for much less. I have the some complaint about Rickenbackers. I owned two of them back in the day and never paid more than $500 and usually less. Try to find one for under $1000 used now, and forget buying new. The prices of American made instruments is out of control. The possible exception is Carvin.

Agree-my two ricks-one was 350 and the other 600-both mint with hardshells!

Fender-Rickys-EBMM-out of control although I would buy EBMM all day because they are the best quality for the money.
 

Are you sure you aren't 12 years old?? I'm 23 and the last time I recall having a mentality anywhere near yours was when I first started playing bass at 15..

Either way I must apologize to everyone else.... not everyone in their early 20's acts like this nowadays. I've been a proud owner of an EBMM bass since I was 21, and have lusted for them for years before hand. They are certainly well worth the money. They are built like tanks and are complete tone factories. Anyone that writes them off in such a manner as Mr_Music, has more than likely never set hands on an EBMM.
 
Are you sure you aren't 12 years old?? I'm 23 and the last time I recall having a mentality anywhere near yours was when I first started playing bass at 15..

Either way I must apologize to everyone else.... not everyone in their early 20's acts like this nowadays. I've been a proud owner of an EBMM bass since I was 21, and have lusted for them for years before hand. They are certainly well worth the money. They are built like tanks and are complete tone factories. Anyone that writes them off in such a manner as Mr_Music, has more than likely never set hands on an EBMM.

They're tone tanks...but they weigh as much as a Sherman, too. :( That's why I haven't caved on one.
 
...I once bought a brand new, trans teal and maple fingerboard with a transparent pick-guard Stingray for around $750...

When? In 1996, I remember gas being under 90 cents a gallon. It's now 4 times that. I'd probably rather go used than pay full retail, but the new Stingrays I've played have been very sweet, and as mentioned in the same price range as a new Fender USA jazz.
 
Part of this is they are priced where the market will allow but remember also that the costs of making a bass in the USA rise at a rate that often exceeds economic growth. Consider cost of living increases. Every year my expenses increase by way more than the stated amount of inflation that the government reports. And American workers make these basses, run the machines, finish them, market them, etc. They need to be paid. Add to that the costs of materials such as wood, etc, and there is bound to be year after year cost increases. And the reason the second hand ones increase is because the new ones increase in cost every year. This makes a used one more valuable. There is still a perceived savings, but because the next alternative is buying a new one at $1500, they cost more to buy used. The same happens with cars. Price increases for American made goods are as certain as death and taxes.
 
Yes I'm 22 and I don't care what you think ;)

Are you sure you aren't 12 years old?? I'm 23 and the last time I recall having a mentality anywhere near yours was when I first started playing bass at 15..

Either way I must apologize to everyone else.... not everyone in their early 20's acts like this nowadays. I've been a proud owner of an EBMM bass since I was 21, and have lusted for them for years before hand. They are certainly well worth the money. They are built like tanks and are complete tone factories. Anyone that writes them off in such a manner as Mr_Music, has more than likely never set hands on an EBMM.
 
Yes I'm 22 and I don't care what you think ;)

Maybe this is the problem. At age 20 was around when I realized that I wasn't the only gifted hard working musician in town. I had lived with the small pond, big fish syndrome.

Once I was shown how many freaking brilliant musicians there were around me, I opened my ears and started caring what others thought of my opinion
 
the old "I think(fill in the blank) is really over-priced" routine gets old... IMO, it's just an underhanded way of slamming the gear choices of others... If someone thinks something is "over-priced", THEN DON'T BUY IT!!! Buy what YOU want, play what YOU want, and don't fret about other people's choices - you'll be alot happier that way...


- georgestrings


Basically, this.

If the OP does not like what the bass he wants is selling for used, then he probably won't end up having one. If there comes a point when it is worth more of his hard-earned dollars to him to have that bass, then he has a better shot at landing what he wants.

What the market IS and what we would like the market to be (or think it should be) are often different things. But just because you're not willing to pay a certain price (ie, it isn't worth it to you) doesn't mean that everyone else will or should make the same decision.

It's more than just basses. Think about the stock market. Let's say you think XYZ company is worth $10 a share. You'd like to buy some at $10 a share. That's what you're willing to pay. But the price of the stock is $12 a share. What do you do? Do you take another look and decide you may have missed something, and it could well be worth the $12 a share, or do you stick to your guns? There's no shame in either, really, although one approach will end up being right and the other wrong, to oversimplify greatly.

So you decide to stick to your guns. You still think the stock is only worth $10 a share, current price be hanged. Then it goes to $14. What then? Do you chase it, and try to get in on what might be the last part of the uptrend, or do you say "Well, I guess I missed this one" and wait for the next (possibly different) opportunity?

With a stock price, fundamentals (how much a company is making, what their business plan is, etc) are important. But investor emotion and desire also plays a role. It's entirely possible that the stock, based on fundamentals, really IS worth only $10 a share. But "the market" decided the price should be $14. And so it is.
 
The workers get paid a decent living wage and the basses play like a dream come true. The craftmanship shows up in the product.

Took my new Bongo HS fretless to rehersal Monday. Country? Dialed right in. Blues? Punched in. Balads? Mwah city.

Worth every penny? Yep!