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EBMM StingRay Special Club

I'm gonna try to make this short. I posted in the Live Sound forum and it was paragraphs. I don't expect much response there, LOL!

Gots a question for any of you that use wireless units for your bass. I'm having a truckload of issues with my guitar wireless units. I've got a Shure, multiple Line 6's, and the Xvive U2. All of them dropout like crazy, to the point they're unusable at a gig. The one wireless unit I have that doesn't do that is my Sennheiser IEMs. The difference? The guitar wireless units are all digital, my IEMs are analog. Our last, and our current, sound guys use digital mixers with monster routers and they create pretty powerful networks. Our current guy also keeps his rig right next to the stage. We asked him to change channels or settings or whatever, which he did, and they still sucked. Let me also add that my guitar player is going through the same thing with his gear. I know I could just use a cord, which I have been doing, but the wireless is really convenient and keeps the stage cleaner. I think our sound guys digital network is interfering with our digital wireless units. Anyone else dealt with this?

I'm gonna post this in a couple of places...Thanks.
 
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It absolutely is!
Except when you want a bass and have nothing you're willing to part with anymore.
I'm trying to take a Buddhist perspective and not be driven by my desire so much. It's just one more thing I may never have while I enjoy the nice things I've been currently blessed with.
Loving that approach, very similar to my own. I’d love to get down to one bass as it’s all I need in reality, ( I can’t gig anymore due to health issues) so I have sold off the basses that were ‘luxury’ and not keepers due to function. Thank heavens for the Special, it’s the first bass in a lifetime that’s ticked every box for me. My 66 P Bass is another absolute gem, but if I ever have to cash in its value for financial reasons I won’t replace it, the Special stops any justification for a new bass, for me anyway, everyone else differs!
 
Loving that approach, very similar to my own. I’d love to get down to one bass as it’s all I need in reality, ( I can’t gig anymore due to health issues) so I have sold off the basses that were ‘luxury’ and not keepers due to function. Thank heavens for the Special, it’s the first bass in a lifetime that’s ticked every box for me. My 66 P Bass is another absolute gem, but if I ever have to cash in its value for financial reasons I won’t replace it, the Special stops any justification for a new bass, for me anyway, everyone else differs!
Agreed. I’ve stopped looking. My Special is the one of been waiting on.
I’m down to my Special 5, Caprice, and a Sire V3-5. I’m good!!
 
I have been juggling what bass to buy next and it has come down to a custom order G&L L-2000 or a MM Special. Pros and Cons to both (for my needs):

Pros:
G&L - I am a fan of the MFD pickups and its unique preamp. Fit and finish are excellent and worthy of a $2k instrument. Being a custom order, I can specify almost exactly what I want aesthetically, including painted headstocks! Ergonomically fantastic. The satin necks from G&L feel very similar to the roasted maple oil finish of the MM. So neck "softness" is on par with each other.

MM Special - Also a fan of the Stingray pickups and the new preamp. Fit and finish, also excellent. Holds better value because of the more popular name brand. On average, probably lighter than the L-2000. I generally like the looks of a bass with a pickguard more than one without. Ergonomically fantastic! Roasted Maple necks that look amazing.

Cons:
G&L - Resale value takes a hit because of name. Can be heavier unless ordered with the empress wood (which I don't mind). Only downside, aesthetically, is that even with my custom choices, the L-2000 is a non-pickguard bass. Not a deal breaker, but, has to be said when weighing everything on a $2k bass. And having said that, no roasted maple goodness. They have vintage tint which is cool and a little similar, but, not the same.

MM Special - More limited on aesthetic options so just about any choice is somewhat of a compromise (to me). The neck is a bit wider than I prefer. I generally like a slim Jazz neck which the L-2000 can do. Not a deal-breaker because it's not radically different, but, different.
 
I have been juggling what bass to buy next and it has come down to a custom order G&L L-2000 or a MM Special. Pros and Cons to both (for my needs):

Pros:
G&L - I am a fan of the MFD pickups and its unique preamp. Fit and finish are excellent and worthy of a $2k instrument. Being a custom order, I can specify almost exactly what I want aesthetically, including painted headstocks! Ergonomically fantastic. The satin necks from G&L feel very similar to the roasted maple oil finish of the MM. So neck "softness" is on par with each other.

MM Special - Also a fan of the Stingray pickups and the new preamp. Fit and finish, also excellent. Holds better value because of the more popular name brand. On average, probably lighter than the L-2000. I generally like the looks of a bass with a pickguard more than one without. Ergonomically fantastic! Roasted Maple necks that look amazing.

Cons:
G&L - Resale value takes a hit because of name. Can be heavier unless ordered with the empress wood (which I don't mind). Only downside, aesthetically, is that even with my custom choices, the L-2000 is a non-pickguard bass. Not a deal breaker, but, has to be said when weighing everything on a $2k bass. And having said that, no roasted maple goodness. They have vintage tint which is cool and a little similar, but, not the same.

MM Special - More limited on aesthetic options so just about any choice is somewhat of a compromise (to me). The neck is a bit wider than I prefer. I generally like a slim Jazz neck which the L-2000 can do. Not a deal-breaker because it's not radically different, but, different.
Is suggest if at all possible, try to play an example of both and go with what feels right . I know it might be hard to get your hands on exact specs you’d want but at least you’d have some sort of idea.
Probably can’t go wrong either way.
The G&L is going to a more aggressive sounding bass with the MFD pickups and preamp.
The Special with have an overall smoother and warmer tone .
 
Is suggest if at all possible, try to play an example of both and go with what feels right . I know it might be hard to get your hands on exact specs you’d want but at least you’d have some sort of idea.
Probably can’t go wrong either way.
The G&L is going to a more aggressive sounding bass .

Yeah I have tried them both locally and like them both. That is what is making this so hard ;). Soundwise and playability both are fine for my needs. MM body is a little more ergonomic/rounded, but, the G&L neck is a little more to my preferred spec (more to my liking). Both are a joy to play though. The MM in general is lighter, but, the G&L I pulled off the shelf had an empress body and weighed 7.6 pounds!

So it kind of boils down somewhat to aesthetics now. Both will be around $2000 out the door. So price is not a determining factor either.

Both basses are at two different locations fairly far away from each other which kind of sucks as well. The MM dealer doesn't carry G&L and the G&L dealer doesn't carry MM. Yay me.
 
Yeah I have tried them both locally and like them both. That is what is making this so hard ;). Soundwise and playability both are fine for my needs. MM body is a little more ergonomic/rounded, but, the G&L neck is a little more to my preferred spec (more to my liking). Both are a joy to play though. The MM in general is lighter, but, the G&L I pulled off the shelf had an empress body and weighed 7.6 pounds!

So it kind of boils down somewhat to aesthetics now. Both will be around $2000 out the door. So price is not a determining factor either.

Both basses are at two different locations fairly far away from each other which kind of sucks as well. The MM dealer doesn't carry G&L and the G&L dealer doesn't carry MM. Yay me.
Sounds like you want both .:smug:
 
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Sounds like you want both .:smug:

And when I go to pick them both up I might as well grab a new wife. :)

I do already sort of have a MM type bass which makes me lean the G&L direction. Its a Warmoth that I built/painted and I really like it as well, though it is not nearly as comfy as the MM or the G&L. Plus it isn't HH which is how I would prefer the MM Special if I go that direction.

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I have been juggling what bass to buy next and it has come down to a custom order G&L L-2000 or a MM Special. Pros and Cons to both (for my needs):

Pros:
G&L - I am a fan of the MFD pickups and its unique preamp. Fit and finish are excellent and worthy of a $2k instrument. Being a custom order, I can specify almost exactly what I want aesthetically, including painted headstocks! Ergonomically fantastic. The satin necks from G&L feel very similar to the roasted maple oil finish of the MM. So neck "softness" is on par with each other.

MM Special - Also a fan of the Stingray pickups and the new preamp. Fit and finish, also excellent. Holds better value because of the more popular name brand. On average, probably lighter than the L-2000. I generally like the looks of a bass with a pickguard more than one without. Ergonomically fantastic! Roasted Maple necks that look amazing.

Cons:
G&L - Resale value takes a hit because of name. Can be heavier unless ordered with the empress wood (which I don't mind). Only downside, aesthetically, is that even with my custom choices, the L-2000 is a non-pickguard bass. Not a deal breaker, but, has to be said when weighing everything on a $2k bass. And having said that, no roasted maple goodness. They have vintage tint which is cool and a little similar, but, not the same.

MM Special - More limited on aesthetic options so just about any choice is somewhat of a compromise (to me). The neck is a bit wider than I prefer. I generally like a slim Jazz neck which the L-2000 can do. Not a deal-breaker because it's not radically different, but, different.
I can’t imagine anyone in this thread telling you to get the G&L.
 
I can’t imagine anyone in this thread telling you to get the G&L.

Haha!

Well, I wouldn’t tell him NOT to get the G&L. Those are great also. I had been looking at an Empress G&L LB100 for awhile.

That said, the Special has been pleasing beyond what I hoped. In that it continues to grow on me, when it started out the gate as a home run.

However, neck preference (and everything else) is really personal. He’s played both and prefers G&L.

Just sounds like a hard choice. Though I’m with @lowdownthump in promoting both as a viable option!
 
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