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Eden Amps No More?

WestyBassBob

WestyBassBob

Mar 2, 2020
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I had heard someone on here mention the brand was being wrapped up and that seems to have come to fruition. The Marshall website no longer has Eden listed as a brand. Bummer as they had a nice sound and I enjoy my TN226 and cab.

But at least I was able to snag it on a clearance price I guess.
 
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ShoeManiac said:
Really? I'm still using my Eden WTX-500 all the time. And it sounds great.

The departure of David Nordschow from the company was no doubt part of what got the brand (eventually) to the point of folding. He's got a new company now, and no doubt people who were Eden fans have gone to DNA or elsewhere.
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A lot of people didn't like that amp but I think it wasn't bad at all. The 500W rating of all the amps that used that ICE output module was what turned people off as they never felt like a 500W amp in use.

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I still keep this in my gig box just in case my main amp goes down.
 
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MuthaFunk said:
The 500W rating of all the amps that used that ICE output module was what turned people off as they never felt like a 500W amp in use.
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Ther are plenty of examples of very successful amps (by a variety of manufacturers) using that power amp module that did not give players such impressions as well.
 
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agedhorse said:
Ther are plenty of examples of very successful amps (by a variety of manufacturers) using that power amp module that did not give players such impressions as well.
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I know the Genz Shuttle 6.0 and Streamliner 600 products had the same module. Although they're not made anymore I'm sure they were successful products in that time. With that said, I had the same experience with the Shuttle 6.0 where despite it's 600W advertised rating it didn't seem to have as much "push" as my 400W RMS Eden WT400+ and fell just a tad short for non PA assisted gigs. The Eden WT-400 by comparison was always just enough to get me through "loud" gigs.

For me, I always felt a little underpowered with any of the ASX125 ICE powered heads. I tried most of them if not all.

I also had a ShuttleMax 9.2 and a Streamliner 900 and both had the power I needed and then some. Admittedly they felt louder than my 400W Eden head but they didn't have that same ICE module. I think they had the ASX250.

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What other bass amps are successful that were made with the 125ASX ICE power module?
 
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ShoeManiac said:
Really? I'm still using my Eden WTX-500 all the time. And it sounds great.

The departure of David Nordschow from the company was no doubt part of what got the brand (eventually) to the point of folding. He's got a new company now, and no doubt people who were Eden fans have gone to DNA or elsewhere.
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Perhaps. But that company is in a whole different universe of price and customer. I think Marshall just decided they couldn't compete with Fender and Ampeg and the boutique brands so they just called it a day. Third place in the market is the absolute worst to be (and I don't even think they were that) You're either a leading brand or a boutique brand or you're shutting it down sooner than later.
 
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It's kinda sad in a way, I had a lot of great memories hauling my rack mounted World Tour 800C in and out of jobs for almost a decade. One the punchiest, tightest heads I've had the pleasure to play. It never failed on me (ever) and when I sold it, it was because the days of weddings and corp events were behind me and a family just beginning. So I guess I'm sad to see the brand fade into history. David had a great thing going for a good long time.
 
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So sad. I was an Eden endorser back in the early 2000s. I loved the gear. I left in the aftermath of David Nordschow leaving, when there seemed to be a big hit in the level of customer service. But I've always had a soft spot for Eden, and have kept my old WT300, though I haven't used it in years. It's been a long time since I even considered buying Eden, but I hate that they're just gone. I guess part of me was hoping for some sort of renaissance for the brand, somehow.
 
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MuthaFunk said:
I know the Genz Shuttle 6.0 and Streamliner 600 products had the same module. Although they're not made anymore I'm sure they were successful products in that time. With that said, I had the same experience with the Shuttle 6.0 where despite it's 600W advertised rating it didn't seem to have as much "push" as my 400W RMS Eden WT400+ and fell just a tad short for non PA assisted gigs. The Eden WT-400 by comparison was always just enough to get me through "loud" gigs.

For me, I always felt a little underpowered with any of the ASX125 ICE powered heads. I tried most of them if not all.

I also had a ShuttleMax 9.2 and a Streamliner 900 and both had the power I needed and then some. Admittedly they felt louder than my 400W Eden head but they didn't have that same ICE module. I think they had the ASX250.

What other bass amps are successful that were made with the 125ASX ICE power module?
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The voicings of all these amps are different, which makes direct comparisons challenging because the preamp's contribution can be as (or more) significant that the power amp itself (including gain staging and control tapers).

Other amps that were successful using this module are several of the GK and Fender models.
 
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ShoeManiac said:
Really? I'm still using my Eden WTX-500 all the time. And it sounds great.

The departure of David Nordschow from the company was no doubt part of what got the brand (eventually) to the point of folding. He's got a new company now, and no doubt people who were Eden fans have gone to DNA or elsewhere.
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I have a WTX-500 and use it regularly in my band's practice studio - I like it a lot. I've had it about a year and have had no problems with it. I got it pretty inexpensively because the original owner said the fan was "broken." The fan is fine, it's just really loud, which seemed to be the consensus from other WTX owners/users. Once I start playing, however, the fan noise is not noticeable at all. But, yeah...nice little amp with a good sound!
 
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I had a feeling Eden was on the way out when I couldn't find the Glowplug tube pedal in stock anywhere in the US a few months ago. Fortunately there were (and still are) multiple Japanese sellers listing on eBay for the same price US buyers paid -- I got one from Japan that arrived safely within about the same shipping time as gear from the opposite US coast. Great pedal, by the way--due to its adjustable crossover and blend controls, it brings the harmonics or as much fuzz as you like from its 12ax7 tube without losing any low end.
 
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I've always felt my WT-550 was a little "soft", it did "punch", but for certain situations this proved to be an advantage and I really like the overall sound of the WT-550 and it's tone shaping abilities.
 
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I always loved the David Eden gear. Back in the late 90's early 00' that was the sound I craved.
I picked up a 2002 WT 800. Heavier than my cab but puts out power and tone I love. It honestly sits on my dresser and only comes out to play every once and awhile. My Epifani Ul 900 makes most of the gigs. Sad to hear the brand will fade away now but, it honestly did When David left.
 
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agedhorse said:
The voicings of all these amps are different, which makes direct comparisons challenging because the preamp's contribution can be as (or more) significant that the power amp itself (including gain staging and control tapers).

Other amps that were successful using this module are several of the GK and Fender models.
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Yess!!! Very true! I had both an MB500 and MB500 fusion and I agree they didn't exhibit the same perceived lack of power/punch. Tonally they were a little too mid forward for me but yeah, they had the ASX125 and rocked! I forgot about them...

Also, the Fender Rumble 500's seem to be well reviewed. I stand corrected!
 
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