Eublet,
I respect your opinion, but IMHO, there's no hidden (or obvious) agenda here. Yeah, Eden still produces great products based on great designs, but they've comitted MULTIPLE "cardinal sins" in the last (at least) 12 months. I've read through all the long threads, and when I filter out all the emotion (on both sides), the users are justified in being as upset as they are.
If anything, look to our own Mike Winnen with his thread on the Genz Benz stuff, whose title directly attacks Eden, and he was even an endorser until recently. I'd weigh this a lot heavier than others not able to claim "inside info" in their posts.
As I recall, most of the other posts that are negative regarding Eden are fairly specifically to the just horror stories, and the bitterness towards Eden with regard to those stories, which seems appropriate to me. I also think it's reasonable to predict misfortune for any company that allows this to happen even once... let alone multiple times... let alone to these extents.
Thing is, even ONE of these horror stories is pretty much intolerable by anyone's standards, and is completely inconsistent with the kind of company Eden once was, and should still be, and I can think of at least two (this one and phish-gate) right off the top of my head. Maybe this is a relatively small percentage of their overall sales, it's still unthinkable and indefensible, IMHO.
I can also think of multiple 1205 users not only complaining about the lack of gain, but also the massive delays in getting their amps returned. Not only that, but even with the current gain stage update, it's still too light. I didn't have a problem with it, as it was plenty for me at that point, but I knew they were gonna' do another one, because it was still too hard to set the gain stages to extract all the power (and in some cases make the compressors easier to use), and yep, they are.
FACT: Any time the product doesn't match the documentation, let alone well established good practice, it's flawed. The 1205 didn't get there.
FACT: The 1205 should never have been released when it was. It was (obviously) not properly tested, and it also later became obvious they weren't prepared to service the returns in a timely fashion.
FACT: Eden was WAY WAY WAY WAY too slow to respond to this, and (OMHO) when they did, I saw/read too much hostility or at least apathy towards the users, like it was their problem.
...and the 1205 gain issue isn't even the greatest of their current problems. The 800C was worse... not in design, but in production, QC, and also customer service.
I'm gonna' qualify all this, by saying, as much as it may surprise folks reading the above, while I'm not encouraged by svtb15's most recent results, I still hope Eden pulls out of this. I still own some of their products and have no plans to "dump" any of it or encourage others to do so. I still feel their designs are good and the tone is great. I don't want them to die, but I must say, they need to stop the bleeding NOW and work hard to rebuild thier reputation or it WILL get worse.
