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El toro

I couldnt do that, I would have play it if I bought it. I cant stand having instruments that dont get play time. Having a set for a collection would be cool though.

Can anyone explain how El Toro differs tonally from an L2000? My guess is that it is something between a first gen SB-2 or Lynx and an L2000.

I don't mess around when I'm playing bass. Why would I add wear on a bass that not only could I not readily replace via the manufacturer it's also a historic piece as well? Part of the reason I bought more El Toros is the fact that I can't order another one if something were to happen to my main one. I can get an L-2000 anywhere even further I can get a 3 bolt neck L-2000 (which I prefer) practically anywhere. Getting an El Toro is not that simple. My goal is to buy one in every colour and fretboard type that were produced. I would also like to acquire a passive El Toro (those are REALLY rare). I just love the El Toro bass.

As Chef stated above, it is a mean active Jazz bass. People ask "what the hell?" is that all of the time when I go to a session. Once they hear it, they heap loads of praise on my El Toro for its sound.

G&Ls aren't boutique basses. They are meant to be played. It's great to think that Leo Fender could have had his hands on one of my basses but that possibilty is even greater with my NAMM El Toro.

Hey, if I end up playing on Letterman one day, I'll definitely bust it out.

As far as collecting goes, some people collect cars they don't drive, pens they don't write with, hats they don't wear and then there are those of us who buy basses that don't get plaed as much as others. I love buying basses and guitars. Some are works of art to me and others are different pieces at my disposal to draw from. I will alwyas play an instrument that I buy. The only thing that will vary is the amount of use that I devote to each.

Gregg
 
My goal is to buy one in every colour and fretboard type that were produced. I would also like to acquire a passive El Toro (those are REALLY rare). I just love the El Toro bass.

Gregg

Seen many of these Gregg? Mahogany with matching stock and maple board. Only one I have seen and only the 3'r 'hog I have seen.

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One of those "pry it out of my cold dead hand" basses. Love the Bull!

Jim
 
Thats cool people definitely have collection things going on I can appreciate. I also dig the historic aspects of it like you say with the NAMM Toro you have. I dont really get into that side of it personally. I mean if I had a mint 1960 J bass I would play it all the time, it would'nt be a collector piece to me. I also think the "vintage market" is a tragedy but thats another story for another day. :crying: ;)

All that said, I have some toro related gas pains building up.
 
Seen many of these Gregg? Mahogany with matching stock and maple board. Only one I have seen and only the 3'r 'hog I have seen.


One of those "pry it out of my cold dead hand" basses. Love the Bull!

Jim

That looks like my main El Toro. I also have a blue one with a matching headstock and maple board (my first one) and a red one with matching headstock with a rosewood board. If my kids don't pick up the bass, I'll have to be buried 20 ft deep so they can go with me. I want to play in the afterlife too!

I will try to get pics of them up soon. I put pics up ages ago in the Dudepit G&L forum but I don't know if they are still there. If you look at Greg Gagliano's website, I bought the NAMM bass from him about 9-10 years ago.

http://www.ggjaguar.com/eltoro-a.htm

Gregg
 
Thats cool people definitely have collection things going on I can appreciate. I also dig the historic aspects of it like you say with the NAMM Toro you have. I dont really get into that side of it personally. I mean if I had a mint 1960 J bass I would play it all the time, it would'nt be a collector piece to me. I also think the "vintage market" is a tragedy but thats another story for another day. :crying: ;)

All that said, I have some toro related gas pains building up.

Playing a MINT 1960 Fender J bass would be like going muddin' in a 1960 Cheverolet Corvette. If you had that kind of money to burn, I guess you wouldn't fret fretting a mint highly irreplaceable classic Fender J bass.
 
I gotta disagree with that.
It'd be more like driving a mint 1960 Corvette.

One can take an axe to a gig, play it, and not harm it, when done respectfully.

I realise that's a whole 'nuther thread, really.
 
I gotta disagree with that.
It'd be more like driving a mint 1960 Corvette.

One can take an axe to a gig, play it, and not harm it, when done respectfully.

I realise that's a whole 'nuther thread, really.

You record with that $25,000+ axe in the best conditions afforded to you (especially if you own a $25K instrument). You don't take it to a 'gig'. I learned that lesson the hard way. I took my boutique bass to a gig and the butt end hit the floor which cause a hairline fracture through the entire body. I got it repaired but it wasn't as solid as before. I babied that bass and it still got ruined. I had plenty of basses to choose from to gig with that night but I chose that one. So from now on, great basses to the studio, good basses to the gigs.

Gregg
 
"I took my boutique bass to a gig and the butt end hit the floor"

Which could just as easily happen at the studio.
Which is why I have replacement value insurance on all my stuff.

$25,000 ain't that much when you start shopping "serious doublebasses."

Anyways, that's all I have to say about that, in this thread.

El Toros rawk!
 
Playing a MINT 1960 Fender J bass would be like going muddin' in a 1960 Cheverolet Corvette. If you had that kind of money to burn, I guess you wouldn't fret fretting a mint highly irreplaceable classic Fender J bass.


Well to me its not worth that much (or even close) so I would never have one. Besides, any bass will outlast me whether I play it or not and when Im dead its irreplaceable-ness is meaningless. I wouldnt disagree with anyone who said I am insane though.

But like Chef said that is a whole other thread. I would rather talk about el toros! Definitely post pics of yours when you get a chance.
 
Seen many of these Gregg? Mahogany with matching stock and maple board. Only one I have seen and only the 3'r 'hog I have seen.

ElToro002.jpg

Bassshots2040.jpg


One of those "pry it out of my cold dead hand" basses. Love the Bull!

Jim


That is a Great bass!!! :cool:

I to have been watching the EBAY El Toro, and have been very interested in it. I wish I had the cash as I would buy it.. The NAMM factor to me would be worth a few extra bucks. I think he will get what he's asking for it sooner or later.
 
The previous owner of my El Toro decided that he didn't like the versatility of the preamp and pickup switching, so he removed it all. It's left with 2 volume and 1 tone knobs and it works just find and sounds great.

I would like to restore it to as close to original spec as possible given availability of parts. I have ordered the replacement mini-toggles from G&L, but I have not been able to find any information on a suitable preamp, or the wiring.

Any ideas?
 
You can find the interceptor schematic, which i believe is the same, at the G&L guitars websites' support section. scroll to the bootm of that section for schematics.
preamps are available new still, i bleeb.
contact matt at guitarman in nyc: good dealer.
he might be able to get you the proper switchgear, or try butch at bayoucables.com
 
Well to me its not worth that much (or even close) so I would never have one. Besides, any bass will outlast me whether I play it or not and when Im dead its irreplaceable-ness is meaningless. I wouldnt disagree with anyone who said I am insane though.

But like Chef said that is a whole other thread. I would rather talk about el toros! Definitely post pics of yours when you get a chance.

Si' Mon!!!! The B-3 (Blue Balled Bull) 1984 Vintage...Played Just short of the point of Abuse!!! (And Loves it!) This bass is ACTUALLY fairly light at 8.5 lbs...Sounds Much Heavier!

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