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[ctmullins]

You can do it either way. I have one bass that has an EXB followed by a VLPF. Works well.

 

[Christcr]

You can do it either way. I have one bass that has an EXB followed by a VLPF. Works well.

That's another idea. I've had a bass in the past with just the EXB. I'll bet it's way more versatile with both.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Hey everyone!

I got an atelier z

Currently running Jbz-4/70s pickips
And swapped the preamp for an audere

And It’s been really good at hifi yet retaining the old school classic jazz bass

I still love my warmoth with Emg JVX and OBP3 at 18V (60s position)

My question:

how many of you with jazz basses just run vol vol tone with active emgs vs having an onboard preamp additionally ?

I was thinking of the “passive” setup with vol vol tone for the atelier z but just curious if I’ll loose anything I need I rarely boost bass or treble on that
But use the tone control quite a bit (2 band + tone)

and I’ve been on an alex Al kick lol

 

[frankie5string]

Hey everyone!

I got an atelier z

Currently running Jbz-4/70s pickips
And swapped the preamp for an audere

And It’s been really good at hifi yet retaining the old school classic jazz bass

I still love my warmoth with Emg JVX and OBP3 at 18V (60s position)

My question:

how many of you with jazz basses just run vol vol tone with active emgs vs having an onboard preamp additionally ?

I was thinking of the “passive” setup with vol vol tone for the atelier z but just curious if I’ll loose anything I need I rarely boost bass or treble on that
But use the tone control quite a bit (2 band + tone)

and I’ve been on an alex Al kick lol

I believe Gary Pratt has been running his “Betsy” jazz bass for decades that way. Not JVX pickups, but the original recipe Js and VVT.

I know a few others who do the same. It seems to work very well for them. Just make sure you get the right pot values for the volume and tone controls.

 

[markanini]

I'm looking for sound clips comparing a DC/DC set to DC/CS. Anyone have them?

 

[NickyTango]

Installing a set of PX/JX soapbars on a Schecter Stiletto Studio (Vol/Blend/B/M/T). Original wiring has a blend control with the middle notch for 50/50 bridge and pickup. The new pups came with the VLPF pot, but am I better off getting an ABC pot to mirror the original wiring (which I like). Is it necessary to have the VLPF at all if I go the ABC route? I don't want to drill another hole

 

[nono]

Installing a set of PX/JX soapbars on a Schecter Stiletto Studio (Vol/Blend/B/M/T). Original wiring has a blend control with the middle notch for 50/50 bridge and pickup. The new pups came with the VLPF pot, but am I better off getting an ABC pot to mirror the original wiring (which I like). Is it necessary to have the VLPF at all if I go the ABC route? I don't want to drill another hole

The VLPF is purely a tone control, it would probably be redundant with an eq but it is completely independent of the balance control.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

The VLPF is purely a tone control, it would probably be redundant with an eq but it is completely independent of the balance control.

Not necessarily

A lpf vs eq cutting have two different effects

I used to have a TL 5 with Emg Tw and a BQC system and a tone control at 18v

the thing was the treble control reduce sizzle and made it darker but the tone control was able to cut in a different way / slope that it still retained bite

 

[ctmullins]

The VLPF is not a passive tone control.

It is an active control whose only function is to reduce treble frequencies using a shelving EQ.

Very similar to what the BTC/BTS/BQC/BQS treble control does, although it has four different EQ curves available.

What the VLPF does is in no way related to what the blend control does, however. @nono was right about that!

 

[NickyTango]

So I'm struggling with why I'm not getting any output. I have all of the power running to a power bus, pups running into the volume pot (my only option given the solderless install), and I've tried running out of the volume pot into VLPF into EQ to output jack, and volume > EQ > VLPF > output jack. I get nothing. Is there something I'm missing? I do have an active balance control on order to replace the VLPF but my mind is fried otherwise...

 

[ctmullins]

The solderless wiring makes troubleshooting easier than it otherwise would be.

Start simple: pickup to volume pot to jack. Just one pickup at a time. Verify that they both work properly.

Then add a single component at a time back into the circuit and test again.

Are you following the EMG instructions? They provide very good instructions. They mention that sometimes the cable headers need to be reversed, to keep ground connected to ground and hot connected to hot. You’re not trying to wing it are you?

 

[NickyTango]

The solderless wiring makes troubleshooting easier than it otherwise would be.

Start simple: pickup to volume pot to jack. Just one pickup at a time. Verify that they both work properly.

Then add a single component at a time back into the circuit and test again.

Are you following the EMG instructions? They provide very good instructions. They mention that sometimes the cable headers need to be reversed, to keep ground connected to ground and hot connected to hot. You’re not trying to wing it are you?

I'm not, but I also haven't come across a diagram of 2 PU/1 Vol/1 Tone (or blend), or one that includes an EQ in the chain.

 

[ctmullins]

I'm not, but I also haven't come across a diagram of 2 PU/1 Vol/1 Tone (or blend), or one that includes an EQ in the chain.

Please read the instructions. They are provided to avoid the kinds of headaches you are having.

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Read it top to bottom. Twice.

Then start simple, with the “One pickup” diagram they provide.

Edit: I interpreted your “I’m not” response to mean “I’m not using the EMG instructions”. If you are, then disregard my chastisement, but still start simple and work your way up to the full circuit. You may want to also review the instructions for the ABCX blend. You did buy the ABCX, and not the ABC, right?

 

[NickyTango]

Please read the instructions. They are provided to avoid the kinds of headaches you are having.

Start here: Invalid Link Removed

Read it top to bottom. Twice.

Then start simple, with the “One pickup” diagram they provide.

Edit: I interpreted your “I’m not” response to mean “I’m not using the EMG instructions”. If you are, then disregard my chastisement, but still start simple and work your way up to the full circuit. You may want to also review the instructions for the ABCX blend. You did buy the ABCX, and not the ABC, right?

I am using the instructions, they came with both of the pickups. Yes I bought an ABCX.

 

[ctmullins]

I am using the instructions, they came with both of the pickups. Yes I bought an ABCX.

Good!

Sorry, I get triggered by people who ignore the instructions included with stuff, then wonder why it’s not working right. It happens too often…

The ABCX instructions should have exactly the circuit you need. I would wait until you actually have your ABCX in hand to do the whole shebang. But you can review the documentation today.

 

[NickyTango]

Good!

Sorry, I get triggered by people who ignore the instructions included with stuff, then wonder why it’s not working right. It happens too often…

The ABCX instructions should have exactly the circuit you need. I would wait until you actually have your ABCX in hand to do the whole shebang. But you can review the documentation today.

I'm a very impatient person, but I suppose waiting 2-3 days for the piece Ill be actually using is the smart thing to do

 

[NickyTango]

I have sound!

The pins on my preamp for input and ground are inverted, similar to the VLPF. Flipped that around and we're growling again

 

[SuperTheBass]

Hey guys, I've read through all 56 pages and haven't seen the JCS or JCSX mentioned at all. Does anyone have experience with these?

Im looking to put emgs in a jazz bass. My only experience is with HZ soapbars which I think are CS magnets. I do like the tone of those. I know most people seem to like the JA/JAXs for jazz basses but I've heard samples of those and I like them less than the regular J/JXs. I may just play it safe and get the original recipe, but first I'd like to see if anyone has any comments either positive or negative about the JCS since I like them in theory. I would probably get the X series either way.

 

[gerryjazzman]

Hey guys, I've read through all 56 pages and haven't seen the JCS or JCSX mentioned at all. Does anyone have experience with these?

Im looking to put emgs in a jazz bass. My only experience is with HZ soapbars which I think are CS magnets. I do like the tone of those. I know most people seem to like the JA/JAXs for jazz basses but I've heard samples of those and I like them less than the regular J/JXs. I may just play it safe and get the original recipe, but first I'd like to see if anyone has any comments either positive or negative about the JCS since I like them in theory. I would probably get the X series either way.

No experience with the HZ or JCS but I did try 40jcsx along with 40TWX (which is 40jcsx in single coil mode) in a schecter riot 5 session bass. I wasn’t very impressed. They sounded too smooth, the attack was too soft. I prefer the original J’s.

 

[SuperTheBass]

No experience with the HZ or JCS but I did try 40jcsx along with 40TWX (which is 40jcsx in single coil mode) in a schecter riot 5 session bass. I wasn’t very impressed. They sounded too smooth, the attack was too soft. I prefer the original J’s.

Thanks for the feedback. I think for me "too smooth" isn't something that would bother me. As long as they're clear and not muddy. I may just get them. EMGs return policy sounds good as long as you're careful.