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Thanks... The cabs alone would be almost $300 with shipping/tax and they are used. They are also much heavier than what I am looking for. I am not 30 something anymore! LOL! But thanks for the suggestion...

So, within your budget, for the duties you need it to do (carry FOH & stage bass, and even do outdoor gigs), the one saving grace that would find you a rig for the job for the price would be to go used and heavy. The older heavy amps and cabs sell for pretty cheap bc everyone wants lighter stuff.

If you can’t do heavy, no worries - that just limits you a bit, but the Rumble 500 would be the next best bet.

For indoor gigs - well, depends the style of music and how loud the band plays - but you’ll probably want something like a 2x12 or 4x10 cab with 300 watts or so (expandable to 500 watts with a second cab).

Alternatively, look around for an Eden Nemesis rig. They were made as combos or separate amp/cab, and were surprisingly not heavy - using a special construction for the cab. I used a 2x10 Nemesis combo for years, pairing it with a matching 2x12 cab or daisy chaining to a second Nemesis 410 combo for outdoor gigs. A pair of these amps should run you under $600 - but they’re going on 30 years old now, and you gotta find one that is 100% functional and well kept.
 
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So, within your budget, for the duties you need it to do (carry FOH & stage bass, and even do outdoor gigs), the one saving grace that would find you a rig for the job for the price would be to go used and heavy. The older heavy amps and cabs sell for pretty cheap bc everyone wants lighter stuff.

If you can’t do heavy, no worries - that just limits you a bit, but the Rumble 500 would be the next best bet.

For indoor gigs - well, depends the style of music and how loud the band plays - but you’ll probably want something like a 2x12 or 4x10 cab with 300 watts or so (expandable to 500 watts with a second cab).

Alternatively, look around for an Eden Nemesis rig. They were made as combos or separate amp/cab, and were surprisingly not heavy - using a special construction for the cab. I used a 2x10 Nemesis combo for years, pairing it with a matching 2x12 cab or daisy chaining to a second Nemesis 410 combo for outdoor gigs. A pair of these amps should run you under $600 - but they’re going on 30 years old now, and you gotta find one that is 100% functional and well kept.

Just bought a Fender Rumble 500 V3 from Guitar Center for $450. I guess we'll see if it meets my needs. Thanks to EVERYONE who responded to this thread and put their two cents in. Information is something we can never get enough of!
 
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I use a Genz Benz 6.0 210 shuttle and a 12" Genz Benz extension cabinet for outdoor gigs

I too would suggest used Genz-Benz gear.
Yeah Fender bought and killed GB
But the individual humans who actually built them are still around, supporting their work.

Plus a head+cab leaves you open for extension cabs and future improvement

EDIT Oops looks like you went Fender Rumble
I wonder sometimes if that's what fender did with the Genz- Benz tech they bought.
 
Just bought a Fender Rumble 500 V3 from Guitar Center for $450. I guess we'll see if it meets my needs. Thanks to EVERYONE who responded to this thread and put their two cents in. Information is something we can never get enough of!
Congrats! Looking forward to hearing your initial thoughts and your thoughts after having an opportunity to play it at a gig.
 
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Here's a 410 and a 300 watt head for roughly $500 before tax

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I've got the Acoustic B410C cab and it got pretty farty (and blew its tweeter) on outdoor gigs with my Ampeg PF-500. I ended up replacing the crappy 100w drivers and disconnecting the tweeter, so my $200 cab investment at the time turned into $600. Great cab now, BTW. Works great outdoors.
 
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So for those suggesting running into my PA, I have two Harbinger MLS1000 column speakers with 10” subs. The vocals sound incredible through it but once you start introducing instruments the vocals get lost. I run my guitar rig (Quilters) direct, no stage amp and love that but feel like the bass will destroy the overall mix.
No I’m not buying a new FOH system which is why I’m inquiring about a stage bass amp that has the balls to handle normal gigs this freeing up the PA for vocals. Bass amp is considerably cheaper than a new PA. If, sensibly, spending more is the only REAL solution, then that is what I will end up doing. But it seems to me, from experience with other bassists who still use stage amps in the 200w range, they were overkill at most of the medium clubs we play.

CONGRATS ON THE FENDER RUMBLE 500. It's strong, it's compact, it'll get the heavy lifting done without the heavy lifting. I've used these a couple times as provided-backline with some hard hitting drummers and they had plenty of vital headroom on tap. And for your stated styles of bass playing, the "vintage" setting sounds and feels awesome.

Good luck with the bass pursuits, BTW. I'm a decent pro-level guitarist currently doing one token guitar gig a week, and vastly preferring my 2-3 weekly bass gigs. I like hanging out in the engine room & locking in with a good drummer.
 
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First time poster. I am a guitar player who has been playing over 40 years now and have decided to move to playing bass at least half the time simply because there are more gigs open to bass players and, quite frankly, I love grooving instead of playing leads all night.

That being said I have a PA that will handle vocals, even outside, but I am a little concerned about introducing the bass into it. So... I am looking for a bass amp that will carry my sound at mostly indoor gigs, but the occasional outside gig as well. I play mostly blues/rock stuff with some funk and fusion type jazz as well.

The caveat is that I don't want to break the bank in case I decide that playing bass half the time really isn't what I expected and go back to guitar, leaving a bass cabinet mostly sitting in the garage.

I've looked at the Hartke HD150 (played it also a t a local music shop) and on 2 it was pretty freaking loud. I have also looked online at the Rumble 100 V3 and the Ampeg RB-112 Rocket Bass amp.

Anyone think these would fill my need? I know they all have direct out which if I "did" have to connect to the FOH I could.

Oh, and my bass is Fender J-Bass.

Again, I really don't want to invest a TON of cash until it looks like I am gigging more playing bass and feel the need to upgrade my bass gear.

Thanks for the input!
A used GK MB210-II combo would be a decent way to go. I have one that I gigged 2 and 3 nights for a year. And I did it without an extension cab (350 watts @ 8ohms through it's two internal 10s). There were times I was pushing it hard and started to feel like I was running out of gas, but not many. And adding another 8ohm 210 extension cab into the equation would have gotten me 500 watts @ 4ohms as well as doubling the amount of air getting pushed, 4 speakers vs 2. And the combo only ways 37 lbs, plus you can always add a used CX 210 or CX 115 cab later.

The only problem I see, is finding a used one at a decent price. I paid 650 for mine brand new in 2018, they currently go for 1100 new.
 
Outside of utilizing GC's return policy, this may perhaps be too late, but I would also recommend buying used. I recently scored a used GK MB212-II combo amp under $500 from GC that sounds great and is louder than I'll need. I haven't seen too many of them used and I may have just gotten lucky but it's a huge savings from a new unit.
 
Just bought a Fender Rumble 500 V3 from Guitar Center for $450. I guess we'll see if it meets my needs. Thanks to EVERYONE who responded to this thread and put their two cents in. Information is something we can never get enough of!
that is a good option, it should serve you well and if you need more, you can always add a second cab. I was about to chime in and steer you away from the "beef up your pa and plug in there" option. In my experience, this only works well if the whole band is going threough the pa. Subs dont help alot, they are not full-range and again in my experience, can often hurt more than help sometimes by just muddying things up.
 
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that is a good option, it should serve you well and if you need more, you can always add a second cab. I was about to chime in and steer you away from the "beef up your pa and plug in there" option. In my experience, this only works well if the whole band is going threough the pa. Subs dont help alot, they are not full-range and again in my experience, can often hurt more than help sometimes by just muddying things up.
Normal indoors or intimate outdoor setting, I don't use Subs or put my bass in the mix (so my bass rig provides the lower frequencies making the subs not missed.

Only on larger outdoor gigs (like car shows where everyone is waaaay out there around the cars) do I add Subs and put bass in the mix. :)
 
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So, the Fender Rumble 500 I ordered showed up today. Plugged it in and it's fat sounding. Plenty loud for the places I play. I like that it has direct out as well as an ext. speaker connection. Gives me options if I need them. I will need to sit down and really dial in my sound, but just ballparking it it sounds really good. I cannot get over how light it is!!!! That is a HUGE bonus! Thanks to all who recommended this one, I'm happy with it!
 
So, the Fender Rumble 500 I ordered showed up today. Plugged it in and it's fat sounding. Plenty loud for the places I play. I like that it has direct out as well as an ext. speaker connection. Gives me options if I need them. I will need to sit down and really dial in my sound, but just ballparking it it sounds really good. I cannot get over how light it is!!!! That is a HUGE bonus! Thanks to all who recommended this one, I'm happy with it!
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