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Episode 88: S/D thread - No Hope

#61
Burnsy said:
2nd jam with new drummer last night. Is he "the one"? Let's hope. He doesn't have much background in the loud & heavy department, more of a indie rock / jazz guy, but he's very serious and very skilled. And like me, 38yo, with 2 kids, wife, stressful job, may just be feeling the need to smash the sh!t out of sh!t.

It feels nice to still be using my very first bass rig of a GK400 head & beat up Peavey 2x10… as a jam space vocal PA! I acquired that set up with my scholarship money from an Iowa City pawn shop in 1994, one of the best purchases I ever made.
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Congrats on the drummer find, and dig the tune! :bassist:
 
#62
bassboysam said:
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latest acquisition. Low impedance and low efficiency though, going to need a Dunwich amp to drive them properly :). What do you say Nick? 5 watt amp with lots of current.
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Good Lord Datassian those are hot!
 
#64
yaudep said:
There's actually no bass in the band. We are two baritone players, one plays the low parts with only guitar amps, I play the lower parts with a bass amp and a guitar amp, sometimes with a sub octave pedal. How do you think the F215 compare to the 66 for this kind of music?
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So you are playing in E standard with a baratone guit? Then I would say the fEARless or even the Dually is going to give you all you really need.

The sub orctave pedal is going to be the sticking point really. That thing is going to crush most cabs. The '66 is probably the best out there for handling that kind of signal at power.
 
#66
The_Janitor said:
Nice work on the StratoTele, Joe! I'm not a fender guy and I think it looks killer!
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Thanks Man and feel better! Fender is just comfortable guitar zone for me, something about Pbass, Strat, and Tele bodies that fit like a glove to me. I just want to put pickups from other brands I love on Fenderish bodies. I wish I could find the twin to this Squier that has two humbuckers in it and buy another one of those necks. Serious time for Tele Pbass build is just around the corner, just about enough layers of tru oil to slap it all together, I will be nervous till it is all together and pickups line up with the strings and all that jazz is accomplished.
 
#68
yaudep said:
There's actually no bass in the band. We are two baritone players, one plays the low parts with only guitar amps, I play the lower parts with a bass amp and a guitar amp, sometimes with a sub octave pedal. How do you think the F215 compare to the 66 for this kind of music?
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The F215 would do you just fine, smaller and more lightweight than the 66, the 66 can go a little lower due to the larger enclosure, but if you're just in standard bass range the F215 would sound amazing.

My guitarists have hooked up to my rig for fun and the 66 sounds absolutely amazing on guitar, and they're in low F so pretty close to where you're at in range.

If only I could convince them to get some F215 or 66's of their own....
 
#69
Ron Now said:
The F215 would do you just fine, smaller and more lightweight than the 66, the 66 can go a little lower due to the larger enclosure, but if you're just in standard bass range the F215 would sound amazing.

My guitarists have hooked up to my rig for fun and the 66 sounds absolutely amazing on guitar, and they're in low F so pretty close to where you're at in range.

If only I could convince them to get some F215 or 66's of their own....
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+1

People dont believe me when I tell them the fEARful is an amazing guitar cab. Last night I was running Link Removed through my '66. With the piezo pick up on it is stupid fat sounding.
 
#70
Ron Now said:
The F215 would do you just fine, smaller and more lightweight than the 66, the 66 can go a little lower due to the larger enclosure, but if you're just in standard bass range the F215 would sound amazing.

My guitarists have hooked up to my rig for fun and the 66 sounds absolutely amazing on guitar, and they're in low F so pretty close to where you're at in range.

If only I could convince them to get some F215 or 66's of their own....
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weve been talking about some stupid low tunings like Eo, im not as concerned with the cabs as i am with the tube heads. have you ever tried your F with that RD into an SVT or other big 300+ watt tube head, and what were the results? my rig handles G just fine but i wonder if going lower than that (F, Eo) may be an issue.

and i dont wanna go SS haha.
 
#71
beebassdude said:
weve been talking about some stupid low tunings like Eo, im not as concerned with the cabs as i am with the tube heads. have you ever tried your F with that RD into an SVT or other big 300+ watt tube head, and what were the results? my rig handles G just fine but i wonder if going lower than that (F, Eo) may be an issue.

and i dont wanna go SS haha.
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I know you are not one to care about specs.... but the Classic 400 benches a clean 400-430 watts at 40hz (depends on tubes). But it has a lot of iron, and that makes a difference.
 
#72
I have used my RD in low F with an SVT-II when I had my Berg's. Wasn't a fan, got too blown out for me, lacking on the extreme low end that I like. However, running the SVT-II into the NV215 and the Sunn 1200s into the NV610 was amazing.

Kind of the original inspiration of my 3800 watt SS/100 watt tube power amp setup that I'm using currently.
 
#73
Ron Now said:
I have used my RD in low F with an SVT-II when I had my Berg's. Wasn't a fan, got too blown out for me, lacking on the extreme low end that I like. However, running the SVT-II into the NV215 and the Sunn 1200s into the NV610 was amazing.

Kind of the original inspiration of my 3800 watt SS/100 watt tube power amp setup that I'm using currently.
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so youve never run into a normal SVT tube head other than the SVTII? i forget, is the II just the racked version and the exact same everything else?
 
#74
On Bees advice to get in to chord theory more, I did a little research and picked up this book. Pretty cool book, more knowledge than I will ever need but fun to dork out too. Dig his theory sections and his trick to memorizing the fretboard. And just look at the dude, probably an idiot savant, let the chord theory brain rape begin :D
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#75
Samsquanch1972 said:
On Bees advice to get in to chord theory more, I did a little research and picked up this book. Pretty cool book, more knowledge than I will ever need but fun to dork out too. Dig his theory sections and his trick to memorizing the fretboard. And just look at the dude, probably an idiot savant, let the chord theory brain rape begin :D
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*super locrians all over your face*
 
#77
beebassdude said:
so youve never run into a normal SVT tube head other than the SVTII? i forget, is the II just the racked version and the exact same everything else?
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Yeah the SVT-II (non pro) is apparently the closest circuit to a blue/blackline era SVT. Just in a rackmount format...and generally found for much cheaper than one of the 70's SVTs (I think I paid $700 for mine?)

I find that to get then real big low end, the mixing of SS with a tube amp really brings out the dynamics and deep low end of the super low tunings. When using just tube power sections I don't get the big low end I can get from a SS amp.

However the tube amps give a wonderful midrange/grind that I can't quite replicate from a SS amp the same way.

With my setup currently the 100 watt tube amp works well since I'm using it for a midrange/treble/grindy kind of tone. I knock the bass down with the depth control on my ORMAT pre and then bump up some of the lows with preamp bass EQ knob. Sounds tighter/way less blown out than just running the bass full bore into the preamp. Then the Ampeg/SS power is handling the big low end of my tone.

Both sides of my setup sound pretty awesome on their own, but together it's perfect.
 
#79
Ron Now said:
Yeah the SVT-II (non pro) is apparently the closest circuit to a blue/blackline era SVT. Just in a rackmount format...and generally found for much cheaper than one of the 70's SVTs (I think I paid $700 for mine?)

I find that to get then real big low end, the mixing of SS with a tube amp really brings out the dynamics and deep low end of the super low tunings. When using just tube power sections I don't get the big low end I can get from a SS amp.

However the tube amps give a wonderful midrange/grind that I can't quite replicate from a SS amp the same way.

With my setup currently the 100 watt tube amp works well since I'm using it for a midrange/treble/grindy kind of tone. I knock the bass down with the depth control on my ORMAT pre and then bump up some of the lows with preamp bass EQ knob. Sounds tighter/way less blown out than just running the bass full bore into the preamp. Then the Ampeg/SS power is handling the big low end of my tone.

Both sides of my setup sound pretty awesome on their own, but together it's perfect.
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how are you running things these days? i thought it was just the power amp into the dunwich pre, but i guess not?
 

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