Yea, I basically can't stand to listen to that Matt Till guy anymore. I mean, his early stuff was cool though.
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Ever Burn yourself out on a Bassist?
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I haven't really listened to much of Oysterhead, but I have to disagree with you on Claypool not listening to the drums. Maybe you just meant the Oysterhead album, but Claypool has really locked in with Herb and Brain on songs like Tommy the Cat, Too Many Puppies, and Antipop etc. No hard feelings.Matt Till said:
Planet: I know he's off the H, and that is awesome! But he's like a train wreck, he's truely a shell of his former self. Luckily, I have noticed he seems to slowly be getting better. Good for him. And I agree, him, Dave, and Hillel are not really easy to compare, because even though John came out of Hillel's mold, he changed quite a bit, as did the music making them not really easy to compare.
WR: I agree, I sold out man. It use to be about the sex and drugs, now all I seem to care about is the music. Damn shame.
C-money: Yes, I was refering to Oysterhead only. I was actually listening to the Brown album a little while ago and notice how well the bass and drums and guitar mesh on a lot of that album. The Chastising of Renegade is a great example! I originally didn't care for that song, but the 3 instruments work so well together. But I don't know if you've listened to much of the Police, but it's really about being sparce. And as you know, Claypool usually will have nothing to do with sparce.
WR: I agree, I sold out man. It use to be about the sex and drugs, now all I seem to care about is the music. Damn shame.
C-money: Yes, I was refering to Oysterhead only. I was actually listening to the Brown album a little while ago and notice how well the bass and drums and guitar mesh on a lot of that album. The Chastising of Renegade is a great example! I originally didn't care for that song, but the 3 instruments work so well together. But I don't know if you've listened to much of the Police, but it's really about being sparce. And as you know, Claypool usually will have nothing to do with sparce.
popinfresh said:
One Hot Minute was flea's best performance probably, and Navarro is just as good of a guitarist as John F. (Which isn't saying much at all.)
I got completely burnt out on Victor after listening to him day and night for almost a year (he was the first, and at the time, only awesome bassist I knew of.) Recently I've gotten back into his stuff more and more, copping techniques and licks and parts of songs.
I burnt myself on Vertical Horizon's really old stuff (first album -- really similar to the Barenaked Ladies only with better lyrics and vocals) a couple years back but I'm able to listen to them again.
I'm totally burnt out on RHCP, Primus, OLP, BNL, RATM, Jane Monheit, Matt Dusk, Martin L. Gore, Groove Collective, and Eva Cassidy. And I'm getting to that point with Diana Krall.
Occasionally, I'll get totally burnt out on jazz -- COMPLETELY. My ears just get so tired of it, I just can't listen to any more in one day, so I'll put on some Mudvayne, NIN, or whatever I have that's not jazz/fusion/blues.
I burnt myself on Vertical Horizon's really old stuff (first album -- really similar to the Barenaked Ladies only with better lyrics and vocals) a couple years back but I'm able to listen to them again.
I'm totally burnt out on RHCP, Primus, OLP, BNL, RATM, Jane Monheit, Matt Dusk, Martin L. Gore, Groove Collective, and Eva Cassidy. And I'm getting to that point with Diana Krall.
Occasionally, I'll get totally burnt out on jazz -- COMPLETELY. My ears just get so tired of it, I just can't listen to any more in one day, so I'll put on some Mudvayne, NIN, or whatever I have that's not jazz/fusion/blues.
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I burned out on Geddy for a bit, but I laid down for a nap and when I woke up it was OK again.
No really, I just try to avoid "binges" and ween myself off of whatever earworm I'm listening to before I'm sick of it, otherwise I'll get bored with ANYTHING.
No really, I just try to avoid "binges" and ween myself off of whatever earworm I'm listening to before I'm sick of it, otherwise I'll get bored with ANYTHING.
popinfresh said:
One hot minute was is a really underaited album, Flea has some really good bass lines on there and there msuic sounded differant but in a good way, but yeah, I dont think john could be replaced for the chili peppers, but neither could Flea and Anthony, them two are the orginal chili peppers, dunno about chad tho, he could be replaceable i suppose.
anyway, I was a really big Fan of Flea (and still am), But i started to search for other bass players as i as i got more experianced with playing bass and there are alot of bass players who r completely differant fomr how Flea plays and for a while i thought Flea wasnt really all that good compared tothe likes of, Stuart ham, John entwhistle, Victor wooten billy sheehan etc, But then i relaized it was just becouse i was soo familiar with Fleas style and not all these other bassists is why i thought Flea wasnt as good, but they r all just differant styles
Pretty much the only band I haven't managed to burn myself out on is Jamiroquai. I've been regularly listening to them for well over 2 years now, still can't get tired of Stuart Zender's playing...
if you start getting burnt out on it give it a rest for a good bit of time and go hunting for new tunes. I have burned myself out on claypool and then sparked him up again multiple times, lots of bands I'll do that. If you begin to get burned out it is definitely incentive to find new tunes.
that said
I really dug Oysterhead, I thought they played well together, and I thought there live shows were quite good as well. They didn't really wank off too much. seriously. trey and les had the potential to just noodle around in extreme fashions for a whole album but didnt, they wrote some material instead. I think that the material couldve been better, and that they all viewed it as a side project. I don't think Claypool overplays much, I think he plays a lot and definitely "fills the space" but I have never thought to myself that he was doing too much.
that said
I really dug Oysterhead, I thought they played well together, and I thought there live shows were quite good as well. They didn't really wank off too much. seriously. trey and les had the potential to just noodle around in extreme fashions for a whole album but didnt, they wrote some material instead. I think that the material couldve been better, and that they all viewed it as a side project. I don't think Claypool overplays much, I think he plays a lot and definitely "fills the space" but I have never thought to myself that he was doing too much.
Eh, maybe it's just be, but when I hear Stewart's drumming, I picture spacious bass playing creating a monster groove, Claypool seems to leave very few pockets of air in his playing. Damn you Sting!... or Claypool!
