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Everyone's downsizing these days..
- Thread starter I play metal
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Downsizing? I'm working on Upsizing. Bought a Bassman 300 a few month back, currently through a 115, but I'm looking at some Sunn style 215s coming up. Weight isn't really an issue if I'm getting the sound I want. I've tried out smaller SS heads, and compact modelers and 4x10s (Yes, I consider 4x10s small) and what not, but to me, a couple fifteens with a big ole tube head is just........right.
The Aguilar model is my favorite in the Pod so I'm sure the real thing is fantastic. I gotta say, I've gigged my new rig a few times now and it is incredible. Genz Benz Shuttle Max 12 and Shuttle 112 cab. Along with the Sadowsky RV-4 I may have found the tone in my head. (I still love how I sound thu a PA and AccuGroove has some new little cabs that look pretty cool but I'm guessing they are pricey and by the time I get an Avalon U5 and power amp that rig would be a little too much for me.) I got a KILLER deal on this rig and it sounds better than anything I have played through in the past - and that's a long list.
Atually I assumed that and I appologize!!
Not trying to be a dick but I just cant see that man.What are your guitarists playing through?Anything more tham 212's and there's no way you'd be heard with just a single 10,with a metal drummer added to the mix especially...IMO and in my experience ,that is.
Man if your pulling it off then good on ya!!That's a trace elliot your using?Sounds like ya gota noice rig!!
Wait---when did you switch to the Max 12 head?? Weren't you playing through one of the smaller Shuttles before??
I never did make it up to GF to check out the Max 12/Uber cab setup they had there, but I'm assuming that the Max 12 now belongs to you, so I can probably skip the trip now.
Hopefully Marguerite's will get off their butts and get a couple of the newer GB heads in, I'd really like to play my Roscoe through a couple to see how I like em.to me downsizing is great simply for logistic reasons, its much easier to transport and carry a small, light amp than a rig the size of a wardrobe. I play through a markbass little mark II and it does the job great for every venue ive ever played. People laugh at it thinking its some sort of toy or cheap knock off, then they hear it and immediately switch sides. Im only 21 so ive got the strength to haul a big rig but why would you want to if you didn't have to 
Wait---when did you switch to the Max 12 head?? Weren't you playing through one of the smaller Shuttles before??
I never did make it up to GF to check out the Max 12/Uber cab setup they had there, but I'm assuming that the Max 12 now belongs to you, so I can probably skip the trip now.
I just switched last week. While the Max 12 is overkill (yeah it belongs to me) volume-wise, it is killer tone-wise. I just think of it as having a back-up power amp.
They still have the Uber 212 and 410 cabs...and they have a Shuttle 9.0. Nice little head, but I prefer the voicing of the Max 12 and the two channels...and I got the "demo" Max 12 for basically the same price as a new 9.0 so I just had to get it.
I went with a Shuttle 112 cab. It has sounded amazing at every gig. The new rig is only slightly larger than the old combo, and I can still make it in one trip - once I get my bag for the Max 12.
ps - I'd like to hear/play your Roscoe through them as well.
Well, if Marguerite's doesn't have anything new in stock when I go in there tomorrow, I'll make a trip up to GF within the next couple weekends to at least check out the 9.0 through the Uber410 cab. I'll let ya know when/if I'm heading up there, and if you're free, you're more than welcome to check out my Roscoe.
Like I said, if I could find a light-weight head/cab that gives me the oomph that my rig does (or at least comes fairly close), I'd seriously consider making a switch. I'm gonna have to bug Paul at Marguerite's (he's one of the guitar players in one of the bands I'm in) to get stuff in so I can demo it on a gig.
Like I said, if I could find a light-weight head/cab that gives me the oomph that my rig does (or at least comes fairly close), I'd seriously consider making a switch. I'm gonna have to bug Paul at Marguerite's (he's one of the guitar players in one of the bands I'm in) to get stuff in so I can demo it on a gig.
Can I change my vote?
Played a job last night 35 miles away; kareoke bar on the first floor, rock club on the 2nd floor; big room with good PA and loaded with ultra, alcoholic drunks
Seemed like a waste to caryy a 100lb cab with a 60lb rack of high end gear for a crowd that couldn't possibly remember what they did last night.
So when you pull in the driveway at 2:00 AM, it's sometimes hard to justify buying, maintaing, and humping nice equipment that's heavy, when in fact the audio quality is only aprreciated by the players
Played a job last night 35 miles away; kareoke bar on the first floor, rock club on the 2nd floor; big room with good PA and loaded with ultra, alcoholic drunks
Seemed like a waste to caryy a 100lb cab with a 60lb rack of high end gear for a crowd that couldn't possibly remember what they did last night.
So when you pull in the driveway at 2:00 AM, it's sometimes hard to justify buying, maintaing, and humping nice equipment that's heavy, when in fact the audio quality is only aprreciated by the players
Can I change my vote?
Played a job last night 35 miles away; kareoke bar on the first floor, rock club on the 2nd floor; big room with good PA and loaded with ultra, alcoholic drunks
Seemed like a waste to caryy a 100lb cab with a 60lb rack of high end gear for a crowd that couldn't possibly remember what they did last night.
So when you pull in the driveway at 2:00 AM, it's sometimes hard to justify buying, maintaing, and humping nice equipment that's heavy, when in fact the audio quality is only aprreciated by the players
I think this is a valid point. For a huge amount of the audience they don't hear nuances about a bass, just the low-end and they are happy.
There are always train spotters who are there checking out the competition. Fortunately you could count those with your left hand.
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So when you pull in the driveway at 2:00 AM, it's sometimes hard to justify buying, maintaing, and humping nice equipment that's heavy, when in fact the audio quality is only aprreciated by the players
i have definitely felt that way on more than one occasion. unfortunately for me, the players are really the only ones i actually care about, so i guess that i'm really only schlepping it for me and my band.
Obviously a valid point but I differ here.Sometimes yes i'd looove to not carry out the gear at 3 am ,but ussually-YES I lovee wheeling around big cabs and bass rigs 24/7.I often do the heavy moving around while the other guys do the small(PA setup,etc) stuff.I get a high off loading the trailer after a good gig and driving away with a full load of hard earned gear.The sticky/sweat drenched cloths is ussually first priority for me after a show haha.
Then again I've been told I'm nuts and everything else in the book so meh.
Hooowa
Then again I've been told I'm nuts and everything else in the book so meh.
Hooowa
seems so common people are downsizing so much these days.I guess it's given with the technology out there.
Like people cutting to a single 10 inch rig.What on earth are you playing for that to be enough?(I play loud and heavy music so no offence
But am I the only one who looooves to wheel in a giant bass rig??(I'm also young and fit haha).Love to look behind me and know I can Level the place if need be.
But serious-why downsize so small to limet yourself so much.I mean...sure my rig is overkill half the time but it's nice to *have the headroom and ability* to rally bigger shows,etc and have all basses covered.Ya dig?
what'd you think?
well, I dont need a big rig to feel loud
I run through the house all of the time and boy do i love the rumble of those subs =P
I must admit I chickened out on the SVT for my gig tonight. I first loaded it up, then unloaded it and loaded up my B-15 and extension cab, and when I get there, I'll decide if I want to use one cab or two. I still stand behind my opinion that bigger is always better so I'll probably use two. But I don't feel so great...been sort of nauseous all day. Must have been that half price expired turkey I bought
Must have been that half price expired turkey I bought
Have always like vintage basses, amps, and cars but haven't considered vintage food; sounds yummy....
Agreed on all of the above - more than half the time, my band also brings sound and lights - so, moving a decent sized bass cab is really no biggie for me... Also, I've found a 410 to be a bare minimum *for me*, and usually run either a 610, 810, or 215 for most gigs... A 410 can definitely get loud enough for my purposes, but I prefer to have speakers nearer to my ears, and to have enough cab that I don't have to push anything too hard...
I figure that load-in/out is only a few minutes, but I typically play for a few hours, once there... In the end, I'd rather do a little work before and after a gig, but insure that I'll enjoy myself while playing - but, to each their own...
- georgestrings
+1... I remember someone posting something to the effect that if you're playing through a 110, 210, or 112, and *think* you're playing in a loud band - you're mistaken... that definitely applies here... I'm sure it works for him, and is a very nice combo - but to call it "loud" is a bit laughable...
- georgestrings
