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Exar Tourbox Thread

#22
OK, I've gotten scotch and tigerbass's info, and geographically it looks like they will fit best in between RFord04 and RCCollins, like so:
warwick.hoy --> karter2000 --> Superbassman2000 --> Ebennetts --> Swift713 -->
Yakob --> cybersnyder --> JimmyM --> michaelvee --> akaTRENT -->
RFord04 --> tigerbass --> scotch --> RCCollins --> nad -->
My name is Mudd --> TheMutt --> Fuzzboxvoodoo --> Cheapbasslovin

I'll remind folks of this changeup when their turn draws nearer.
 
#25
DerHoggz said:
So chords = no no?
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Unfortunately, I think so. I tried a few chords through the Octavium before packing it up, and it didn't sound bad, it didn't warble and glitch as crazily as some octave effects will do, but it wasn't exactly happy with the chords either. :)

Oh, and high-five to warwick.hoy for the very cool vids!
 
#26
bongomania said:
Unfortunately, I think so. I tried a few chords through the Octavium before packing it up, and it didn't sound bad, it didn't warble and glitch as crazily as some octave effects will do, but it wasn't exactly happy with the chords either. :)
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This was my experience as well.

Oh, and high-five to warwick.hoy for the very cool vids!
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Thanks.

My hope is for everyone to get a chance to do clips and vids that are equipped to do so. Mine are really preliminary and rough and that's really the best I can do with no video editing software no decent camera or microphone and no real recording interface.

I can't wait to see something more polished from some of you guys that rock it on the demos.

I'm pretty excited about these pedals being available in the states. They sound great. The Bass Distortion is high on my GAS list and is feature rich. The Moby Dick sounds great but I have little idea what to do with a chorus so I'll leave someone else to that.


I'm a little tentative discussing this so here goes nothing. I brought up the True Bypass thing earlier because I think EXAR may want to be a little careful with this. Not trying to start a TBP flame war but there is so much juju and hype that surrounds TBP and while I think EXAR has nailed a superior bypass design using a relay and microprocessor that truly is true bypass; putting TBP on both the box and the pedal feels a little forced. Perhaps my feeling is that they are underselling their bypass design by labeling it as TBP. Perhaps I would prefer them not to hop on the TBP bandwagon because so many people do (hop on the wagon) without really knowing what TBP is or what that means.

Or perhaps this is really just me splitting hairs and looking for something to grouse about.
 
#28
Ideally, I think a relay that was able to switch to bypassed if/when there was power loss and back to the signal chain when there was power would be a cool idea to create for those who are worried about their pedals not bypassing when there is power loss.

Otherwise, I am completely unconcerned with buffered bypass or true bypass. As long as the tone is there (or tone is added) and the effect is awesome, it doesn't matter to me. :D
 
#29
Yeah it's a damned if ya do, damned if ya don't thing. For example, Barber used to use true bypass, but then he got sick of complaints from his touring pro customers about the 3PDT switches making pop noises and outright breaking, so he went to a very high-quality buffered bypass. But then all of his more generalized customer base started crying about his pedals not being true bypass!!! He was forced to go back to using TBP as the standard off-the-shelf version, and offering the buffered version as a special-order option.

Bottom line, most customers demand TBP even if they don't know much about it. :)
 
#30
bongomania said:
Yeah it's a damned if ya do, damned if ya don't thing.
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I hear ya Cyrus and that's kinda what I figured. EXAR could put "Silent TBP" on the box and pedal enclosure and just further confuse the uninitiated. I'm sure somewhere someone has been told to beware of anything that doesn't say the exact words "True Bypass" even if the bypass is superior to mechanical TBP.
 
#31
warwick.hoy said:
I hear ya Cyrus and that's kinda what I figured. EXAR could put "Silent TBP" on the box and pedal enclosure and just further confuse the uninitiated. I'm sure somewhere someone has been told to beware of anything that doesn't say the exact words "True Bypass" even if the bypass is superior to mechanical TBP.
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Yes, MXR has "true hardwire bypass" which is the old school crappy bypass.

Also, I think unless it is a 3PDT switch with no electronics in the bypass path it is false advertising to claim TBP. I'm not saying buffers and relays aren't better, it is just false advertising IMO.
 
#33
DerHoggz said:
Yes, MXR has "true hardwire bypass" which is the old school crappy bypass.

Also, I think unless it is a 3PDT switch with no electronics in the bypass path it is false advertising to claim TBP. I'm not saying buffers and relays aren't better, it is just false advertising IMO.
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Not wanting to add to the thread derail but I'm not sure I agree with the bolded text.

While the 3PDT switch is probably the most common true bypass it is not the only type. My understanding is that true bypass

...means that the signal passes straight through the box - directly from input to output jack, touching only the switch/relay - when the effect is bypassed. This kind of bypass arrangement is only possible to create with some sort of mechanical switching - either with a good old stompswitch, or with an audio relay. The switching is done simultaneously at the input and the output, to route the signal around the electronics in the effect, and when bypassed, the effect/tuner is completely disconnected from the input signal....
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The audio relay that EXAR employs is a type of TBP as far as I know.

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