Since it's been established by several others here that Fender wasn't the only game in town, they must have been doing something right or they wouldn't have become the generic electric bass.
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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing
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Since it's been established by several others here that Fender wasn't the only game in town, they must have been doing something right or they wouldn't have become the generic electric bass.
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
Not at all! I've seen cats tear up a host of different knock off basses and I've also seen bassist with 5K basses that sounded like butt!are you not equating skill with instruments, though?
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
Not at all! I've seen cats tear up a host of different knock off basses and I've also seen bassist with 5K basses that sounded like butt!
heh. yeah, true.
Still rubbish; "over 20 years" is an even bigger pile of rubbish. Where did you get this information?
More accurately, "for the most part was the only game in town" that people wanted to play.
yeah. mass producing.
And competent advertising and promotion. Fender put basses (and guitars) in the hands of many popular artists at the time to promote the brand.
Even with all of that, you still have to consider the fact that the Fender designs has not only endured all these years but have been "borrowed" by almost everyone under the sun. Fender is the generic for others to follow. Fender created a foundation for others to build upon.
Fender ruled the bass world back then, in spite of the competetion. In the '60s it was common to see the album credits giving the person's name and instrument like a: guitar; b: drums; c: vocals and tambourine; d: Fender bass. They never mentioned the brands of the other instruments, but "Fender bass" was specified a lot.
not rubbish
Danelectro made a huge mistake by marketing to Sears and Montgomery Wards and knocking of their own products by making inferior copies of plywood and masonite...the six string never caught on and only seemed to find a home in Nashville
Gibson was too worried about their guitar line to worry about basses...and even when they did start to market them they were simply compies of their guitars....and by the time the EB-3 was honed and perfected 1961 Fender already had the market cornered...
Rickenbacker spent most of it marketing efforts on steel guitars until it was too late (1957) as well, and they really didn't catch on in the rock n roll world until the Beatles, John Entwistle of The Who, Peter Quaife of The Kinks, and Roger Waters of Pink Floyd started using them in the early sixties..
and actually in the 70's you saw more Ric's than Fenders on stage
Don't even get me started on Kay....
again for the most part the only game in town
Danelectro made a huge mistake by marketing to Sears and Montgomery Wards and knocking of their own products by making inferior copies of plywood and masonite...the six string never caught on and only seemed to find a home in Nashville
Gibson was too worried about their guitar line to worry about basses...and even when they did start to market them they were simply compies of their guitars....and by the time the EB-3 was honed and perfected 1961 Fender already had the market cornered...
Rickenbacker spent most of it marketing efforts on steel guitars until it was too late (1957) as well, and they really didn't catch on in the rock n roll world until the Beatles, John Entwistle of The Who, Peter Quaife of The Kinks, and Roger Waters of Pink Floyd started using them in the early sixties..
and actually in the 70's you saw more Ric's than Fenders on stage
Don't even get me started on Kay....
again for the most part the only game in town
Not sure what you're getting at here...
Are you saying that Ibanezes don't cut through the mix, based on a population sample of 1? I don't know which Ibanez he plays but maybe he should try an ATK, they cut pretty well.
LOL, there was no "making inferior copies" for Sears or anyone else involved at Danelectro. That's how they always made instruments. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
I have several of Sears Dano basses and they don't even have an adjustable trussrod (no original Danos I've seen did). Yet those necks haven't gone out of true in almost 50 years. One of them had it's frets pulled and the fret slots left open over 20 years ago and it's still not needed adjustment. Every single Fender I've ever owned required at least seasonal neck adjustments.
Fender developed the Bass VI well after the Dano six string. The Bass VI didn't exactly set the bass world on fire.
"They are not God, "He" (Leo) is God. or with God now, as it were.
Fender certainly was NOT the only game in town back in the day (for the most part).
It's just the same now as it was then:
The right tool for the job. In my humble opinion.
First up I owned an SR400 bass for 6 weeks and could not get a decent sound out of it. I have tried most other Ibanez basses and was unimpressed with most, the ATK being one of the better ones. But for what I play Fenders work better! And yes his Ibby gets lost in the mix, this coming out a Epifany head and cab!.Not sure what you're getting at here...
Are you saying that Ibanezes don't cut through the mix, based on a population sample of 1? I don't know which Ibanez he plays but maybe he should try an ATK, they cut pretty well.
for me, i decide what's write based on the specific model, not by brands.
i can't say i hate fender basses, because there are a few i've played that i really like. i also can't say i only love ibanez, i've played some that i really don't like. i'm currently playing u.s. masters, and while i love the bass i have more than any other bass i've ever played, i know they make some basses i don't like.
i just wish people would stop with the fervent brand loyalty. sure, they might have some good products, but all companies i can think of make some that really aren't good at all, despite the similarity in brand name.
and i think some people mostly want to go with the fender and ampeg setup because it's the "cool" setup, not because they've tried out others and decided for themselves what they want to play. that said, they do make some great gear, but if you think you like everything they make, you're kidding yourself.
i can't say i hate fender basses, because there are a few i've played that i really like. i also can't say i only love ibanez, i've played some that i really don't like. i'm currently playing u.s. masters, and while i love the bass i have more than any other bass i've ever played, i know they make some basses i don't like.
i just wish people would stop with the fervent brand loyalty. sure, they might have some good products, but all companies i can think of make some that really aren't good at all, despite the similarity in brand name.
and i think some people mostly want to go with the fender and ampeg setup because it's the "cool" setup, not because they've tried out others and decided for themselves what they want to play. that said, they do make some great gear, but if you think you like everything they make, you're kidding yourself.
I don't particularly care for them but they are clear, and besides that every other bass player before and after him sounds fine! He was at the store when I purchased my Victor Bailey and loved the way it sounded! At the time he could not afford it so he got the Marcus Miller instead which allowed his style (thump and popper) to shine.
But mass production without demand would have meant bankruptcy.yeah. mass producing.
Yeah the pickups/eq on some Ibani is lacking. My SR500 and SR505 can pound the tar off the roof and leave my Fenders at the gate through the same rig. I wonder if it's the woods, pickups or onboard EQ that does it?
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