• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing

Status
Not open for further replies.
#282
Bassgrinder77 said:
And BTW, Leo could have specified a more guitar-like tuner but he went to Kluson and had them make a bass guitar tuner with a big oversized open gear and the big oversized clover grabber - like an upright.
Think about it. Those tuners were not to scale with the rest of the instrument. They made a statement - This is a BASS.
They were the one thing on Leo's new bass guitar that looked remotely bass(upright)-like. That wasn't an accident.
Click to expand...

The tuners made no such statement. On the contrary, they were a simple expedient that required minor modification to the baseplate and the string post. They were also too heavy for the application. Fender didn't correct that until recently.
 
#283
pyrohr said:
So is it about profiling or actually playing? And who should you look like a real bass player to? just asking. :)
And as for ibby basses I think they look nice so why many believe you can't profile with them?
Click to expand...

I don't know what it's about, but I do know in many cases live performances focus more on the visual rather than the music being played, and that's largely because of audiences. They want to see stuff and be entertained, if they want to hear the music they can listen to a CD. As much as I hate to admit it, looks count A LOT and Ibbys just don't have the look.

I think most Ibbys look funny, and if I don't like its looks I'll go for something else. I'm shallow like that. But, I have four 34" scale necks, all Ibby TR Series.

I'm just saying that with as much emphasis as there is on looks I believe many guys pass on Ibbys. All IMO, of course.

It's almost as if Fender has a certain amount of automatic credibility built into it, not for the product, but for the owner.

I was amazed to see that Cliff Burton? played an Aria Pro II.
 
#285
pyrohr said:
Impressive list mostly of people I've never heard of but that doesn't matter, how many on that list are bassist? As far as Gerald Veasey is concerned yes he is a well known bassist playing an extended range bass Which Fender didn't make until recently. When it comes to anything over five strings (some people four strings) anything but a Fender will do. I personally do not go over to Ibanez threads posting pics of Fenders or how much Fenders look, sound or feel better than Ibanezes!
Verdine White of EWF also plays an Ibanez and he's more popular than Gerald is in popular or crossover music, but as soon as he started playing Ibanez basses he was no longer noticed for his bass playing. All Verdine's substantial stuff was done on a jazz bass. I myself could care less what some one plays and think time spend practicing and learning is better spent than blaming any instrument for it's shortcomings!
Click to expand...

this isn't a fender thread per-se the OP asked people to explain why certain dealers ram Fender down people's throats or come off as snotty if you don't play a Fender....this thread explores that question....but back to the Ibanez thing

Pyrohr.....here is a list of Current Bass Players using Ibanez basses along with what bands they are in and what models they use.....please note certain highlighted artist which unless you live under a rock you should have heard of....some of which are actually playing their own Ibanez Signature models


Banana Morning Surfer
Fieldy Korn K5
Klang Love Group ATK305
Sugi Amecan
Takeshi YAMA-ARASHI ATK
OX LORDI BTB200 IPF
JAY THE RANSACK SRX500 HS
Rozaimi Deja Voodoo Spells SR1005EWN NTF, AEBE DVS
Adam Blackstone Jill Scott, Musiq, The Roots ATK
Akinori Yamada BTB
Anders Iwers Tiamat SR 5-string, ICB
Andrew Jacobs Mutiny Within SR
Antonio "Maca" Ramos Independent ATK
Arya Setyadi SR3000
Banana Siwat Homkham Morning Surfer BTB555MP
Barry Donaghy Harem Scarem SRX
Bernt "Flash" Jansen Wig Wam SR900
Brad Allen City Sleeps ATK
Caisa Troedsson Calaisa SR1005NTF, EWB205
Caleb Schneider Bad Acid Trip BTB
Carol Kaye SRX
Charlotte Poiget Aqme SRX 505
Chris Ball Ignominious Incarceration SR 5-string
Chuck Bailey Kid Deposit Triumph ATK
Clint Norris As I Lay Dying ATK
Cveto Polak Sank Rock BTB1205E NTF
Dan Kurtz The New Deal EDA900
Dennis Bradley Beneath the Massacre BTB
Dustin Davidson August Burns Red SDGR
Fred Calderon Carnifex SR 5-string
Fredrik Larsson Hammerfall ICB
Gary Willis Solo Artist, Triphasic, Slaughterhouse 3 GWB1005NTF, GWB35BKF
Gerald Veasley SR 6-string
Glen Benton Deicide, Vital Remains SR
Greg K The Offspring CUST. RD500
Guido Fregonara K-lafate BTB1006E OL
Hans J Kullock SRX
Henrik Sandelin Avatar SR1005FM
Henrik Deluran Solo, Studio SR1000EWN NTF
Jason White Straight Line Stitch SR 6-string
Jeanne Sagan All That Remains SR
Jett Beres Sister Hazel SR 5-string
Joe Keyser Skinless SRX 5-string
Joe Pitter Evans Blue SR, ICB, BTB
Joe Payne Divine Heresy BTB 6-string, SR 5-string
Jon Frost Light This City SRX
Jukka Koskinen Wintersun
Karin Axelsson Sonic Syndicate SR530
Kay Brem Eluveitie ICB300EX BK, SR706 TK, EWB205WNE NT
Kentaro Azuma Badfish SR EDA
Lee Foral After the Burial BTB
Luciano Barros PAULO GONZO BTB5CPD NTF
Marc Brownstein The Disco Biscuits ATK
Marcelo Da Venezia Weichafe BTB1205E NTF
Marco Coti Zelati Lacuna Coil SR 5-string
Marcus Kossler Fanta 4 ATK
Mark Davis Emmure EDB, BTB
Mark Young (hed) planet earth ATK
Matt Kean Bring Me The Horizon
Matt Snell Five Finger Death Punch SR 5-string
Matt Fisher Eyes of Fire SR 5-string
Mick Whitney 36 Crazyfists BTB
Mike D'Antonio Killswitch Engage MDB
Mike Murphy Haste The Day SRX
Mugurel Vrabete Holograf SR1005 EFM, SR400 PB
Nate Olp Demiricous ICB
Nelson Braxton The Braxton Brothers SRX
Niko Del Hierro Saratoga SR
Olivier Defives Jadallys BTB450QMTK, AEB10BK
Paul Romanko Shadows Fall PRB
Paul Gray Slipknot PGB
Paul Waudby The Eyes Of A Traitor ATK
Pedro Diaz Herrero Mago de Oz SRX
Pepe Bao Medina Azahara SR, BTB, SB
Percy Jones EDA905
Pete Way UFO, Waysted ICB200
Peter Iwers In Flames PIB
Raul Ruutu Sunrise Avenue
Raymond Bürgin P.M.T. - Pre Menstrual Tension AEB10 BK
Remko Tielemans TEXTURES SRX755
Riccardo eRiK Atzeni Solid Vision BTB1005E OL, BTB705 OL
Richie Castellano Blue Oyster Cult SR 5-string
Roland Guerin Marcus Roberts Trio, Solo Artist BTB 6-string
Ross Dolan Immolation SR
Rufus Philpot Planet X, Down to the Bone CUST. RD505
Ryan Wombacher Bleeding Through SR 5-string
Sean Andrews Redemption SR 6-string
Sharlee D'Angelo Arch Enemy SDB
Stefan Brunzell SRX
Steinar Krokmo PAGAN'S MIND BTB1306E
Stephane Barbe Kataklysm SR900
Stig Skog Andersen Purified in blood SR900
Stu Gili-Ross Gallows ATK
Takeharu Hayakawa BTB SRX
Terry Butler Six Feet Under BTB, ICB
Troy Bleich Into Eternity SR 5-string
Tru James Stone Mecca ATK 5-string
Tsuyoshi Ishikawa P.T.P (ex. Drug Store Cowboy) SR, ATK
Wojciech Mazolewski Pink Freud BTB1006 OL

they guy was simply trying to explain that he was tired of being picked on for not Playing a Fender and that he found Ibanez basses more to his liking....thats a personal opinion just like yours....

I say it all the time

Play what you like.....and Like what you play

so while this list may not be as impressive as the list of artists playing a Fender...there is indeed somebody playing Ibanez basses and making a living doing it......

and i personally think your missing out on some really great basses by being so narrow minded...but what do i know i play ESP's, B.C. Rich's, Trabens, and Ric's....lol
 
#289
what you guys keep forgetting and that we Non-Fender people keep trying to point out is that Fender for the most part was basically the only game in town for over 20 years....people used them in all those recordings because that's all there was...

but this is 2009 not the 1950's there are other literally thousands of other choices out there now. So stop eating the vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry....and try the pineapple, the mango, or the New York Fudge Super-chunk.....you might actually like it

all we are trying to point out and or say...
 
#290
what you guys keep forgetting and that we Non-Fender people keep trying to point out is that Fender for the most part was basically the only game in town for over 20 years....people used them in all those recordings because that's all there was...

but this is 2009 not the 1950's there are other literally thousands of other choices out there now. So stop eating the vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry....and try the pineapple, the mango, or the New York Fudge Super-chunk.....you might actually like it

all we are trying to point out and or say...
Click to expand...

I certainly don't have a problem with that. :)


OH! I do have a mango ..... but it's a Fender. :D
 
#291
I certainly appreciate Fender's legacy and what he did for electric bass (and guitar). It does not necessarily mean that they are currently the best. With so many choices these days, there is no best, just different flavors and whatever works for you, works for you.

Some people get it in their heads that they have to have a particular brand or look. Fender has been around for a long time and they probably sell the most instruments and therefore some may think that they are basses to have. That's what they see and that's what they are used to, however there are plenty of other great instruments out there. Choice is good.

So, I cannot explain why "Fender is God", because I do not believe they are.
 
#292
Snakeman1066 said:
what you guys keep forgetting and that we Non-Fender people keep trying to point out is that Fender for the most part was basically the only game in town for over 20 years....people used them in all those recordings because that's all there was...
Click to expand...

Gibson ('53) and Rickenbacker ('57) both had basses available in the '50s. There were also Harmonys and Kays. Don't forget Danelectro, especially the 6 string "tic-tac" bass which enjoyed some popularity in studios. Hofner landed in the US with the mop-tops in the early '60s. Guild got into the act in the '60s as well. Then came the lawsuit versions.

Fender was by far the most used but they weren't all there was.
 
#293
I have been a bass player for a long time and never owned a Fender until about six months ago. I bought the Geddy Lee Jazz and I have been a believer ever since. The Jazz has a great tone and the neck is thin and fast. I recorded some stuff in the studio with it and was amazed with how great it sounded. I must admit that I really do not like the new Jazz basses I tried in the stores. I played a lot of them when I was shopping and was not too happy with the action or tone of the new ones. Basses are a matter of personal taste. Buy what you like for the style of music you play.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back