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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing

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What's wrong here:

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or even here:

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and thats just the back of this!
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I do, however agree that the Ibanez guitars are amazing. RG's = the best in the world.

and yes, this thread needed some pics.


The first one's not bad, but I think the horns are a little wide (or rather, the space between the horns and the neck, not the horns themselves). The others just sort of "bleh." Not bad, just sort of seems like an imitation that doesn't quite live up to the standard.

It's difficult for me to define... Wals look "right," EBMM Stingrays and Sterlings look "right," but these Ibanezes don't. Just me, your milage may vary.
 
I'm really surprised that so many Fender fans don't know that Paul Tutmarc invented the electric bass. The first solid body, horizontally held, fretted, electric bass was Paul Tutmarc's "Electronic Bass Fiddle", model #736.

He may have been first, but Leon Fender was the guy that invented it well enough that no one else needed to come along and invent it again. ;)
 
He may have been first, but Leon Fender was the guy that invented it well enough that no one else needed to come along and invent it again. ;)

Leo may have invented it. But there have been other companies that have took Leo's design to the next level by making them more playable and updating the sound they produce to make them more modern.

So what I'm saying is just because Leo invented it doesn't mean he perfected it.
 
Simplicity!This is what Fender was/is prided on over the last 60+years:Simplicity of operation,design,...and not to mention,ease of service.You can buy a Fender anywhere,and despite all of the innovations that were spawned from this design,it's still an industry-standard,making this instrument the most sought after sound among musicians,producers,and engineers,alike.The fact that it's"idiot-proof"all the way around,makes it the most desirable instrument around,...you just can't go wrong with a fender!
 
I'm just the opposite. I think Fenders have a classic look that's just "right." Ibanez basses look cheap and "wrong" to me. Strangely, I don't feel the same way about their guitars. I DO think Fender guitars have a similar "right" look, but Ibanez guitars don't bother me the way their basses do.

Same with me. I've played Ibanez guitars since the mid 80's and still play them now, but I can't stand most of their basses. Not all of them. There are good ones, but that was 25 years ago.

Fender Jazz = supreme. There's nothing like a good Jazz.
 
What's wrong here:

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or even here:

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and thats just the back of this!
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I do, however agree that the Ibanez guitars are amazing. RG's = the best in the world.

and yes, this thread needed some pics.

That one at the top is absolutely hideous!
 
What's wrong here:

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or even here:

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and thats just the back of this!
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I do, however agree that the Ibanez guitars are amazing. RG's = the best in the world.

and yes, this thread needed some pics.


I don't think there's anything wrong. Those basses address ergonomic issues. A longer upper horn helps with the balance and a deeper cutaway allows access to the upper frets. The one on the bottom has rounded body edges, which I find comfortable. Of course, they don't look like Fenders but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
 
I don't think there's anything wrong. Those basses address ergonomic issues. A longer upper horn helps with the balance and a deeper cutaway allows access to the upper frets. The one on the bottom has rounded body edges, which I find comfortable. Of course, they don't look like Fenders but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

+1. The model up top looks like it should, at least in theory, also have some pretty significant weight reduction. I haven't played these particular basses, but my first bass is kinda shaped like that and it spoiled me.
 
I like Fenders because the sound, the looks, the feel (of mine at least :D), and the interesting history of the company. I am one of those guys who like the more subdued body shapes and paint jobs. I have never been a fan of boutique and super high end production basses. That's just me :D
 
Explain the Fender is God thang and someone post pics of a couple of Ibanezes? Look around when you go to concerts, no one is playing an Ibanez! Half of my friends are bassplayers and i've been playing like 38 years, none have an Ibanez!!! look at any concert on TV and you will not see an Ibanez!!! For those of you who love Ibanez and hate Fender please keep that to your self and stop with the Fender bashing threads!!! I owned an Ibanez for 6 weeks and returned it for full credit, I told the guitar associate I could not get it to sound like anything regardless to how hard I tried!!! As far as Fender goes the amount of people playing them where ever you go with all the basses in the world out there including IBANEZ should tell you something! The amount of people who have gone full circle and came back to Fender should tell you something! Just notice when you come across concerts on TV, random pics of groups playing, or just musical situations where a bassist is present I bet a good amount of time the bassist is playing a Fender! Fender is not the God of all basses but the quintessential meat and potatoes bass. I understand why some bassist like boutique basses, I have friends with Fodera's, Cirruses, NYBW's Clifford Roi's, Mtd's and most of these guy's have something in common, they own at least one Fender! So if you want to be different that's fine but if and when you settle down musically and realize it's about the music and not you ego, your lifestyle, your dress code or lack of, how many disruptions you can make to your personal appearance (dude and dudettes) and just want to professionally play or want to be a part of a real situation then and only then will you begin to understand what Fender basses are all about!
Proud owner of TEN FENDER BASSES!!!
 
pyrohr seriously slow your roll.....I don't know you from Adam, but because of guys like you I don't play Fenders.....aside from the fact that i don't like them....

we get that you like Fender, We all get the Leo was the man, but honestly do you think there would be other brands out there in business if somebody didn't play them? or if people didn't wan't something different from the norm....

and before you open a can of worms again please do your homework...

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maybe you need to hunt these guys down and tell them how cool Fender basses are...lol

nothing personal i respect that you dig Fenders but i know there are plenty of metal and Punk artists that play and endorse Ibanez

Different strokes for different folks man....
 
pyrohr seriously slow your roll.....I don't know you from Adam, but because of guys like you I don't play Fenders.....aside from the fact that i don't like them....

we get that you like Fender, We all get the Leo was the man, but honestly do you think there would be other brands out there in business if somebody didn't play them? or if people didn't wan't something different from the norm....

and before you open a can of worms again please do your homework...

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maybe you need to hunt these guys down and tell them how cool Fender basses are...lol

nothing personal i respect that you dig Fenders but i know there are plenty of metal and Punk artists that play and endorse Ibanez

Different strokes for different folks man....

Impressive list mostly of people I've never heard of but that doesn't matter, how many on that list are bassist? As far as Gerald Veasey is concerned yes he is a well known bassist playing an extended range bass Which Fender didn't make until recently. When it comes to anything over five strings (some people four strings) anything but a Fender will do. I personally do not go over to Ibanez threads posting pics of Fenders or how much Fenders look, sound or feel better than Ibanezes!
Verdine White of EWF also plays an Ibanez and he's more popular than Gerald is in popular or crossover music, but as soon as he started playing Ibanez basses he was no longer noticed for his bass playing. All Verdine's substantial stuff was done on a jazz bass. I myself could care less what some one plays and think time spend practicing and learning is better spent than blaming any instrument for it's shortcomings!
 
That one at the top is absolutely stunning!
Fixed.

I'm gassing over a BTB780 right now.


And Christ, what's wrong if someone doesn't like Fender? Okay, Leo might be the first to develop the mass produced electric bass (the first being that weird Tutmark or whatever) but hey, different strokes for different folks.

Personally I find the Fender designs, although handsome, quite generic. Everyone has seen a Fender design. Ps and Js are the most widely seen, be it from Sadowsky, Fender, Mike Lull, SX, or whoever. I'd like to see something different; even if it might be ugly (to some, like that BTB that I find gorgeous) , at least it's different.
 
we get that you like Fender, We all get the Leo was the man, but honestly do you think there would be other brands out there in business if somebody didn't play them? or if people didn't wan't something different from the norm....

Exactly. A guy at work (a staunch Fender loyalist) spouted off about my collection, which was mostly Warmoth and Carvin, that "nobody plays it". Nonsense! If that were true Carvin wouldn't have been in business since the 1940s, which is about as long as Fender.

I've also owned Ibanez basses and they were fine instruments. One was a Musician (Sting used to play one) and the other was an ATK.
 
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