Explain something to me about drummers

[Whousedtoplay]

The problem is "Recording Engineers" who don't understand music to this level or regularly work with musicians who don't understand this, and think they need to time align everything to make it "good", mostly because they can.

I've had a few Recording/Mixing engineers who were excellent musicians, composers, arrangers.
It was easy to talk to them.
(P.S. Sometimes, we had some disagreements also).

 

[Whousedtoplay]

I've experienced a different situation as of late.
I recorded a six song EP for an artist. The drummer was terrible; so terrible, that the engineer spent most of his time editing the mistakes in post.
I'm a good bassist; I have solid groove and great inherent time. Playing with this donkey made it hard for me to lock into his stuff. Even then, the finished product sounded lifeless and boring.

I truly don't understand why(!!!) someone would hire a musician (not a good one) and waste time, money, EMOTIONS trying to record that musician.

P.S. There is one thread in this forum where a drummer appologizes for "not playing drum patterns", for changing those patterns, etc...
It's one of my pet peeves at this forum where lots of bass players promote that mantra, "Just follow the drum's kick".
You don't follow the drum's kick.
You, as any rhythm group musician - including the drummer, follow the preset rhytmic pattern known for EVERYBODY.

 

[Nashrakh]

The drummer was terrible; so terrible, that the engineer spent most of his time editing the mistakes in post.

I've heard the story of a bassist who was so bad that he was replaced by a midi track after the recording sessions were over and the engineer couldn't salvage anything in post.

The guy never noticed that it wasn't him playing on the record...

 

[murphy]

I've played in a few bands that used backing tracks on midi live and mini disc....you all better be on time in those situations....especially with added video above stage

 

[LBS-bass]

I've heard the story of a bassist who was so bad that he was replaced by a midi track after the recording sessions were over and the engineer couldn't salvage anything in post.

The guy never noticed that it wasn't him playing on the record...

Lucky for me, I'm recording with a drummer who always wants to play to a click and does a good job of it, and we track together, so even when we have to make edits to his tracks my hits are usually ok, and vice versa. In theory we could mix and match any takes from anyone in the band and it would come out ok because we're being consistent. That's the real beauty of recording to a click that people often don't appreciate.