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Explain this to your kids

Ya know... I... ok. I’m 38. I’m missed all the early “heavy metal” stuff in the 70s and 80s and even before. And while I appreciate quite a lot of that stuff, KISS is a band I’ve just never understood. When you now older cats were younger, did this REALLY get your motor runnin, if you catch my drift? I mean... this is JUST AWFUL!!! Apart from the atrocious clothing that metal fans wore back in the day (I’ll never understand how wearing makeup and leopard print boots made you feel like a MAN) the music itself is laughably simple. The drums didn’t even sound like an actual kit was used. It’s hard for me to believe people bought into this garbage.
I'll give it a crack. Don't shred me, this is just one man's recollection.

I think this is one of those things - if you weren't there you wouldn't understand. In fact, lots of people at that time despised them. But they were the first band to take all of the theatrical elements and put them together with a high energy rock n roll show. Bands like Alice Cooper, T-Rex and Bowie had some theatrics. But they were a bit abstract for most, I think - and a bit pop minded. Deep Purple and Black Sabbath had raw energy. But a little boring live if you weren't a big fan or stoned. Kiss put everything together at the right time in one huge in-your-face high energy package. It definitely wasn't about the art of music. It was an escape. It's hard to put into words, and if you ask 100 people you'll probably get 100 answers. What they are now is not what they were back when - but then, everything around them has changed and evolved, too. TBH, if I was in my 20s or 30s, I wouldn't get it either. You just kinda had to be there.
Yeah, basically what he said, as far as Kiss in particular is concerned; then you mix in the comic book fantasy character factor. It was pure junk entertainment in a total franchise package. Now, to be honest, when Kiss came along, I was just a little too old to get caught up in it. I had been into TRex, Bowie, NY Dolls even(a band that was coming up in the NYC clubs along with Kiss)but when Kiss happened, I thought it was crass processed empty calories, AND they were a little behind the curve with the glam thing, it had already played out. But as the glam thing was artsy, tongue in cheek, fey, it wasn’t that huge in the US. But it did get audiences accustomed to a more theatrical presentation, so Simmons and company took that hook, butched it up, presented themselves as otherworldly comic book superheroes, recycled some Rolling Stones riffs and other bluesy hard rock of the time, and the rest is history, although they really didn’t break through until their third album, the infamous live one. They appealed to a much younger audience who weren’t that concerned about integrity or artfulness in music, and certainly apathetic to whatever happened at Woodstock or Monterey. It was all razzle dazzle circus. On that note, since I don’t have any idea how any of the rock of the 60’s onward might have impacted you, you’d have to tell us what ‘old’ bands, if any, impress you, or what you make of it all. Then it might be easier to explain the ebb and flow of the trends of those days.
 
Yeah, basically what he said, as far as Kiss in particular is concerned; then you mix in the comic book fantasy character factor. It was pure junk entertainment in a total franchise package. Now, to be honest, when Kiss came along, I was just a little too old to get caught up in it. I had been into TRex, Bowie, NY Dolls even(a band that was coming up in the NYC clubs along with Kiss)but when Kiss happened, I thought it was crass processed empty calories, AND they were a little behind the curve with the glam thing, it had already played out. But as the glam thing was artsy, tongue in cheek, fey, it wasn’t that huge in the US. But it did get audiences accustomed to a more theatrical presentation, so Simmons and company took that hook, butched it up, presented themselves as otherworldly comic book superheroes, recycled some Rolling Stones riffs and other bluesy hard rock of the time, and the rest is history, although they really didn’t break through until their third album, the infamous live one. They appealed to a much younger audience who weren’t that concerned about integrity or artfulness in music, and certainly apathetic to whatever happened at Woodstock or Monterey. It was all razzle dazzle circus. On that note, since I don’t have any idea how any of the rock of the 60’s onward might have impacted you, you’d have to tell us what ‘old’ bands, if any, impress you, or what you make of it all. Then it might be easier to explain the ebb and flow of the trends of those days.
It really is a case of “you had to be there man” haha. As far as the older rock/metal... Pink Floyd, a number of Zepplin tunes, same with Black Sabbath and Deep Purple... then a number of 80s metal bands I super appreciate. Extreme, Def Leppard, Motley Crue...

I mean, my first intro to “metal” was Metallica ...And Justice For All and Megadeth Rust In Peace in like 1990. I had never heard of heavy metal music or even knew what an electric guitar looked like lol. As I got older I looked into the back catalogue of where metal began...

To put all of this into perspective, in ‘91 after Metallica’s Black album came out (I was 11 lol) I found a bunch of old tapes that my dad had “dubbed” from records. Alice Cooper, Creedance, John Denver... and KISS. I couldn’t help but laugh when my dad told me his parents didn’t allow him to listen to AC or KISS. I mean, compared to what I had come to accept as the golden standard of heavy metal, KISS surely had to just be a joke. Then I saw music videos of them and well... I never became a fan.

All these years later, it’s still mind boggling. But I’m sure my first child who’s due this May will do the same with my “old music” ala Dream Theater, Tesseract, Angra, Kamelot when he starts to truly discover music.
 
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I have not seen Gogol Bordello nor the Cardiacs before, but really enjoyed those videos. Thanks.

I don't have a video, but have you ever been accused of making stuff up? I grew up with a 45 of "Napoleon XIV" doing "They're Coming to Take Me Away" (and of course, the reverse on side B). Accused for years of making it up.

Or "Sunrise, Sunset" by 5-Man Electrical Band. "does not exist", or better, their cover of the Beatles "Birthday" which really has disappeared from the universe. (Listened to it on a CKXL Calgary all summer in 1970; that and "Lay Lady Lay" and "Boy Named Sue" - all on the top 40 hit station that summer).

My first "heavy metal" was Iron Butterfly in a high school English class. Went out and bought the album the next day. I loved Alice Cooper but also never really "got" Kiss. I always thought Alice was superior in every way.
 
I don't have a video, but have you ever been accused of making stuff up? I grew up with a 45 of "Napoleon XIV" doing "They're Coming to Take Me Away" (and of course, the reverse on side B). Accused for years of making it up.
I'll back you up on that, friend had a copy and I've personally played it (both sides).

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