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fEARful part nine (9)

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Boomer777 said:
Greetings guys - I am Boomer 777 and am new to site. Am just re-aclamating myself to the bass world. Am trying to catch up on all the latest and greatest re: bass gear and this venue seems to be chock full of very informed posters. Have been following the B-2000 thread and am really curious. If I may posit my query and get some respones/ideas would be much obliged.

Firstly, I am an old-timer, 55 yrs old and have not purchased any amplification for about 13 years. The last rig I put together was a GK 400RB, 12 band EQ, and driving an original Guild-Hartke 4-10 cabinet. My primary bass is a Peavey TL-5 (active) and a Standard Fender Jazz bass (vintage 1998). My playing is modeled after: Jamerson, Prestia, Dee Murray (Elton John)....and the wonderdul 5 string sound that one hears on present day Gospel albums.

Here is my dilemma: Am looking for thermo-pulse that use to knock me in the chest when walking into a club long ago (primarily from the SVT). I am not a slapper, I do not like clanky, twangy, residue. A Punchy, tight, and booming sound is what I am after. Having said that: I NEED A SET-UP WHERE MY B-STRING DOES NOT CRAP OUT AT ANY LEVEL.
Was intrigued and am waiting to try the GK Fusion 550, 1050 and the Carvin B2000.

Can someone offer some counsel as to what I might try with respect to amp and cabinet?

Thanks for your time and attention

Warm Regards

Boomer777
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Here the answer you will get is to build a fEarful:

http://www.talkbass.com/wiki/index.php/Fearful™_12/6_&_15/6

My 1212/6 does a great job with the B-string.

Other possible configurations include the 15/6, or (2) 15/6 or a 1515/6 or ...
 
#723
When I first looked into the fEarful style cabs, I approached it like traditional cabs: "I'll need one cab for quiet gigs and two cabs for loud." What I've discovered is with enough watts, volume-wise the 12/6 fulfills most of my gigging requirements. The 15/6 is invaluable for the loud gigs, especially outdoors w/no PA support. I have never required both at the same event. So having one of each ends up being a time/hassle saver in terms of moving gear back and forth to performance and rehearsal venues. The 12/6 is about 35 pounds; the 15/6 is about 45 pounds.
 
#724
m.oreilly said:
you might try starting your very own thread in the amp section :)
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Someone sent him here from the Carvin B2000 thread, so we could at least talk about the cab side a little.;)

Boomer: when you get a chance maybe fill in a bit of your profile, please. You'll be amazed by how much better directed responses you'll sometimes get. Even just your location is very helpful since many of use get together periodically and get to actually try each other's rigs. Nothing beats hands on experience really.

Your bolded reference to your requirement of your B string never crapping out automatically warrants an hour or three perusing this thread, which is also prominently linked in the fEarful Wiki.

Since the fEarful designs are primarily a do it yourself deal, the first question is, do you want to build a speaker cabinet yourself? The Wiki deals with other options, and you certainly don't have to build it yourself, but a lot of the designer's energy went into building a dynamically growing knowledge base for those of us who want to get into the nuts and bolts of bass sound reinforcement.

Welcome to Talkbass, hope you find what you're looking for here.
 
#725
Ukiah Bass said:
When I first looked into the fEarful style cabs, I approached it like traditional cabs: "I'll need one cab for quiet gigs and two cabs for loud." What I've discovered is with enough watts, volume-wise the 12/6 fulfills most of my gigging requirements. The 15/6 is invaluable for the loud gigs, especially outdoors w/no PA support. I have never required both at the same event. So having one of each ends up being a time/hassle saver in terms of moving gear back and forth to performance and rehearsal venues. The 12/6 is about 35 pounds; the 15/6 is about 45 pounds.
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I've found something similar. The 15/6+15/sub seems to work for every gig for me.;)
 
#726
Boomer777 said:
Greetings guys - I am Boomer 777 and am new to site. Am just re-aclamating myself to the bass world. Am trying to catch up on all the latest and greatest re: bass gear and this venue seems to be chock full of very informed posters. Have been following the B-2000 thread and am really curious. If I may posit my query and get some respones/ideas would be much obliged.

Firstly, I am an old-timer, 55 yrs old and have not purchased any amplification for about 13 years. The last rig I put together was a GK 400RB, 12 band EQ, and driving an original Guild-Hartke 4-10 cabinet. My primary bass is a Peavey TL-5 (active) and a Standard Fender Jazz bass (vintage 1998). My playing is modeled after: Jamerson, Prestia, Dee Murray (Elton John)....and the wonderdul 5 string sound that one hears on present day Gospel albums.

Here is my dilemma: Am looking for thermo-pulse that use to knock me in the chest when walking into a club long ago (primarily from the SVT). I am not a slapper, I do not like clanky, twangy, residue. A Punchy, tight, and booming sound is what I am after. Having said that: I NEED A SET-UP WHERE MY B-STRING DOES NOT CRAP OUT AT ANY LEVEL.
Was intrigued and am waiting to try the GK Fusion 550, 1050 and the Carvin B2000.

Can someone offer some counsel as to what I might try with respect to amp and cabinet?

Thanks for your time and attention

Warm Regards

Boomer777
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No one in a fEarful thread will ever tell you not to get a fEarful. ;)

What is more the question is the side that's up to you. Yes. The fEarful will have no problem with the low B, at nearly any volume. BUT...is it the cab for you...hrrrrm. If you like a cab that's got a specific 'voice' a trademark tonal character, this may not be your cab. If you want a cab that's flat and even and "fills in the blanks" that other cabs leave as tonal holes, if you want a cab that stays clean and clear very loud unless you're intentionally feeding it distorted signal, if you want a cab that puts your amp head and your bass' sound out front...this may be worth looking at.

Are you willing to build, or find someone who can build it for you faithfully to the plans? That's probably a concern. There are some options these days (what a great time to be interested in a fEarful!).
 
#730
BurningSkies said:
A little bird whispered the words Kern IP-777 to me the other day...Not a certainty, but my fEarful experiment may get more interesting soon.
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The IP-777 and a nice amp would certainly rawk through the fEarfuls! I may have to give that a try with my Kern and CA9! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :cool:

As the Kerns are a bit hard to find, you may want to check out the Jules Monique tube preamp. I have not put ears on one yet, but hope to soon, and the preliminary reports sound promising!

Tom.
 
#732
tombowlus said:
The IP-777 and a nice amp would certainly rawk through the fEarfuls! I may have to give that a try with my Kern and CA9! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :cool:

As the Kerns are a bit hard to find, you may want to check out the Jules Monique tube preamp. I have not put ears on one yet, but hope to soon, and the preliminary reports sound promising!

Tom.
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One found me. ;) Which is really the best of how TB works. I'm not going to say who or where, since stuff isn't solid yet (no money has changed hands). but I wouldn't be unhappy if it came together as planned. If it doesn't happen, I'll begin to cast about for other options. I'm not one to count chickens whether unhatched or in the bush.

I don't think the Monique is what I'm after, no matter how awesome it sounds and specs out...The size/shape + cost isn't really working for me. I really would like something rack mount and easily transportable/protectable.

But I'm moving towards a high-power pre/power setup, based around one of the new Peavey IPR-3000 to fuel the fEarful cabs.
 
#736
My 12/6 project was the recipient of an unexpected few hours this week. It should wrap up easily tomarrow.

I'm using a Thunderfunk 420 these days, and given Ken Jung's comments about the T Funks being rolled off in the low register, I can't help but think it is time for a change.

Tone goals are a bit on the warm side, full, deep and percussive. I play a five string fretless (Barker B1.) I'm not at all hung up over weight. Volume needs are to be able to match up with a grand piano played HARD.

Any suggestions?
 
#737
BurningSkies said:
No one in a fEarful thread will ever tell you not to get a fEarful. ;)
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Oh yes they would.

I had followed the fEarful threads and wanted a 15/6, but was ummming and errring on another thread over whether to build a fEarful or buy a Barefaced Big One. Greenboy himself popped up to recomend that if, like me, he was in the UK he would buy a Big One.

So I did, and I couldn't be happier with it - a full review will follow.
 
#738
Interceptor said:
My 12/6 project was the recipient of an unexpected few hours this week. It should wrap up easily tomarrow.

I'm using a Thunderfunk 420 these days, and given Ken Jung's comments about the T Funks being rolled off in the low register, I can't help but think it is time for a change.

Tone goals are a bit on the warm side, full, deep and percussive. I play a five string fretless (Barker B1.) I'm not at all hung up over weight. Volume needs are to be able to match up with a grand piano played HARD.

Any suggestions?
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Try it first IMO :p
 
#739
Interceptor said:
I'm using a Thunderfunk 420 these days, and given Ken Jung's comments about the T Funks being rolled off in the low register, I can't help but think it is time for a change.
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Try the head first, like Thud says. If you end up wanting something different it's not likely because the TF 420 is lacking down below. This forum churns GAS. But in the longer view much of that is just subjective cavitation that could easily be backwash of someone else's opposing subjective impressions. So real data is of value. That's why I applaud Bass Gear Magazine's efforts to present actual test data and referenced testing apporaches. And with that in mind, see this thread in general and this post in specific:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/b...t-will-i-lose-712654/index3.html#post10001790

TfunkTimbre.jpg


If that graph is remotely accurate the TF is actually one of the few heads around with a decent high pass filter - ie designed to roll off hard at typical ported-driver unloading frequencies without touching their useful and audible output. That is to say, the rolloff indicated in the graph seems to have been designed not as a default voicing baked in to promote a tonal philosophy, but merely as well-engineered low-cut filtering at a frequency knee that fits deeper-reaching bass cabs like the fEARful very well indeed.
 
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Interceptor said:
My 12/6 project was the recipient of an unexpected few hours this week. It should wrap up easily tomarrow.

I'm using a Thunderfunk 420 these days, and given Ken Jung's comments about the T Funks being rolled off in the low register, I can't help but think it is time for a change.

Tone goals are a bit on the warm side, full, deep and percussive. I play a five string fretless (Barker B1.) I'm not at all hung up over weight. Volume needs are to be able to match up with a grand piano played HARD.

Any suggestions?
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none except to say that ... yeah, play that thing for a bit. You might choose to replace the T'Funk but I expect it will sound great.

If you get the chance, audition the GK MB500 with your fEarful sometime. I really like that little amp ...
 
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