Feeling cancelled?

[LBS-bass]

No good deed goes unpunished.

In fairness, I tend to expect very little from people, and I'm rarely disappointed.

 

[fhm555]

I played bass for an original and cover power trio for 5 years…
…by and large we each contributed our own parts and added our arrangement ideas…
…Early on in the recent band the two of us discovered we were very far apart on the political spectrum…
…I decided to make the heart wrenching choice to leave the group. That was a year ago…
…They are moving to finish the album…
…my trouble is I haven't been acknowledged as the low end contributor…
…should I expect any acknowledgement, or just accept, since I left, that I will be ignored?

My first question would be if you made a difficult personal choice to quit a band in order to avoid a contentious, argumentative relationship, why are you considering entering a contentious argumentative relationship with the same individual you quit the band to avoid? It’s a different pretext for sure, but you are rationalizing a return to a situation you quit, for the same reason you quit in the first place. Your former friend had a bone to pick with you and it drove you away, now you want to go back just to pick a bone with them?
If it’s for recognition, unless there's copyright or contractural restrictions you are free to use any recording you played on to flesh out your resume. Your former friend not acknowledging you can only mean they consider the friendship dead so accept that, grab copies of the songs you played on and use them to find a new situation. Success with a new band is a step forward, arguing over recognition on music with zero commercial potential is taking a step back into keeping a long running dead end squabble alive.

 

[arbiterusa]

So my question is, should I expect any acknowledgement

sadly in my personal experience, no. I mean, you can ask. Won’t happen, but you can ask.

 

[DwaynieAD]

You left and you left behind your bass lines.

 

[bassliner50]

"I was met with resistance to that decision, laced with theories and downright bs."

Therein lies your answer. Never underestimate the destructive power of BS.

 

[Bass Viking]

In fairness, I tend to expect very little from people, and I'm rarely disappointed.

This is the secret to life.

 

[jim nolte]

I played bass for an original and cover power trio for 5 years. We played out occasionally but got together almost every week to rehearse and work/write/record. The guitarist mainly introduced the lines for the originals and suggested ideas for bass and drum parts, but by and large we each contributed our own parts and added our arrangement ideas. By that point we'd completed 6 or 7 of our own songs, mastered and ready to release. Then covid hit.
Important background: the guitar player and I go back over 40 years, to high school and jazz band, then beginning to work together in a few fairly successful groups, again with original music an emphasis. But we never actually took off.
Early on in the recent band the two of us discovered we were very far apart on the political spectrum, but after a brief text battle we agreed it was best to focus on music and leave those things out. There were some revisiting instances over the years, always by the guitarist, but I chose to not engage.
When everything closed down I decided for many reasons, personal and scientific, it was best to wait it out and then start up when we all felt comfortable again. I was met with resistance to that decision, laced with theories and downright bs. I decided to make the heart wrenching choice to leave the group. That was a year ago.
They have just recently found a replacement for me, which I expected. They are moving to finish the album and have released several of the cuts on social media. But my trouble is I haven't been acknowledged as the low end contributor. The drummer is referenced, the guitarist, but no bass player.
So my question is, should I expect any acknowledgement, or just accept, since I left, that I will be ignored?

Are you the bassist that is on the track on social media or is a different bass player playing your parts that you wrote for the song?

 

[DJ Bebop]

I played bass for an original and cover power trio for 5 years. We played out occasionally but got together almost every week to rehearse and work/write/record. The guitarist mainly introduced the lines for the originals and suggested ideas for bass and drum parts, but by and large we each contributed our own parts and added our arrangement ideas. By that point we'd completed 6 or 7 of our own songs, mastered and ready to release. Then covid hit.
Important background: the guitar player and I go back over 40 years, to high school and jazz band, then beginning to work together in a few fairly successful groups, again with original music an emphasis. But we never actually took off.
Early on in the recent band the two of us discovered we were very far apart on the political spectrum, but after a brief text battle we agreed it was best to focus on music and leave those things out. There were some revisiting instances over the years, always by the guitarist, but I chose to not engage.
When everything closed down I decided for many reasons, personal and scientific, it was best to wait it out and then start up when we all felt comfortable again. I was met with resistance to that decision, laced with theories and downright bs. I decided to make the heart wrenching choice to leave the group. That was a year ago.
They have just recently found a replacement for me, which I expected. They are moving to finish the album and have released several of the cuts on social media. But my trouble is I haven't been acknowledged as the low end contributor. The drummer is referenced, the guitarist, but no bass player.
So my question is, should I expect any acknowledgment, or just accept, since I left, that I will be ignored?

I was in a short-lived situation like that.

I let it eat at me, thinking the same, I was underappreciated and that my contributions would be attributed to someone else and all that jazz.

The band broke up about a month after they kicked me out, they never got going again and even if they did. I don't have to be a part of it

I've got my own life to live
I'm the one that's going to have to die
When it's time for me to die
So let me live my life
The way I want to, yeah
Sing on brother
Play on drummer

 

[db59]

If you haven't ...read up about Jake E. Lee and Ozzy and how he wasn't given credit on the album "Bark at the Moon"

 

[DJ Bebop]

I played bass for an original and cover power trio for 5 years. We played out occasionally but got together almost every week to rehearse and work/write/record. The guitarist mainly introduced the lines for the originals and suggested ideas for bass and drum parts, but by and large we each contributed our own parts and added our arrangement ideas. By that point we'd completed 6 or 7 of our own songs, mastered and ready to release. Then covid hit.
Important background: the guitar player and I go back over 40 years, to high school and jazz band, then beginning to work together in a few fairly successful groups, again with original music an emphasis. But we never actually took off.
Early on in the recent band the two of us discovered we were very far apart on the political spectrum, but after a brief text battle we agreed it was best to focus on music and leave those things out. There were some revisiting instances over the years, always by the guitarist, but I chose to not engage.
When everything closed down I decided for many reasons, personal and scientific, it was best to wait it out and then start up when we all felt comfortable again. I was met with resistance to that decision, laced with theories and downright bs. I decided to make the heart wrenching choice to leave the group. That was a year ago.
They have just recently found a replacement for me, which I expected. They are moving to finish the album and have released several of the cuts on social media. But my trouble is I haven't been acknowledged as the low end contributor. The drummer is referenced, the guitarist, but no bass player.
So my question is, should I expect any acknowledgement, or just accept, since I left, that I will be ignored?

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."

Hunter S. Thompson

 

[DJ Bebop]

Sure there is...credit for his work. I think it was me I would ask for credit as the bassist on the songs that I played on. What's the harm in asking?

But credit for what?

Not to disrespect the OP but, what is it that he contribute to?

Songs on a new release on digital download or CD after signing to a recording contract, or some original songs played in a band around town?

If it's the former, get a lawyer, if it is the latter, walk away.

IMHO

 

[Tritone]

Aside from personalities, political views, etc...It boils down to the band wanted to move forward and play, and you didn't want to. In the absence of any contracts, written agreements, publishing agreements, mechanical royalties, or similar.... they don't owe you anything.

 

[Bass Viking]

Nope, no pay, just a few hours of work in my studio because we were friends and I figured it would be a nice thing to do.

I just noticed it was your studio. So no pay, no credit, and he used your facilities. That's what friends do.

 

[LBS-bass]

I just noticed it was your studio. So no pay, no credit, and he used your facilities. That's what friends do.

No, it was a remote recording. He's on the east coast; I've known him since the 80's when I lived out there. So he sent me a guitar track that he recorded against a looped drum pattern. I went into my studio and replaced the loop with some well programmed drums to add fills and variations between sections, and then recorded a bass line, then sent those tracks back to him. He was never here.

 

[DJ Bebop]

No, it was a remote recording. He's on the east coast; He was never here.

 

[Steadfast]

Hey, I arranged some very famous horn parts in 1985 on what is now a classic. I got screwed in a complicated scene. But hey you gotta move on.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Hey, I arranged some very famous horn parts in 1985 on what is now a classic. I got screwed in a complicated scene. But hey you gotta move on.

A friend of mine also did horn arrangements and charts for a famous band he was in. Year's later they tried to not credit him and try to hold his royalties because he had left the band down the road after the recordings with him on them and his arrangement still existed.

But because he had stuff on paper, it didn't go well for the band

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

I played bass for an original and cover power trio for 5 years. We played out occasionally but got together almost every week to rehearse and work/write/record. The guitarist mainly introduced the lines for the originals and suggested ideas for bass and drum parts, but by and large we each contributed our own parts and added our arrangement ideas. By that point we'd completed 6 or 7 of our own songs, mastered and ready to release. Then covid hit.
Important background: the guitar player and I go back over 40 years, to high school and jazz band, then beginning to work together in a few fairly successful groups, again with original music an emphasis. But we never actually took off.
Early on in the recent band the two of us discovered we were very far apart on the political spectrum, but after a brief text battle we agreed it was best to focus on music and leave those things out. There were some revisiting instances over the years, always by the guitarist, but I chose to not engage.
When everything closed down I decided for many reasons, personal and scientific, it was best to wait it out and then start up when we all felt comfortable again. I was met with resistance to that decision, laced with theories and downright bs. I decided to make the heart wrenching choice to leave the group. That was a year ago.
They have just recently found a replacement for me, which I expected. They are moving to finish the album and have released several of the cuts on social media. But my trouble is I haven't been acknowledged as the low end contributor. The drummer is referenced, the guitarist, but no bass player.
So my question is, should I expect any acknowledgement, or just accept, since I left, that I will be ignored?

They will re record your bass tracks with the new bassist, when they feel they've found "the guy"

You will then, no longer be any sort of "low end contributer"

 

[yodedude2]

Unless he stands to make money off it, to hell with them. If he will sell something with your playing on it, then I'd want my cut.

agreed. unless there is some sort of money to argue over...it's all ego. forget that.

anyone mention yet what chaquico is dealing with from 'jefferson starship'?

 

[Killing Floor]

Start a new band. Get better. Have them open for you. Make them use your gear, no sound check. Drop the guitar from the FoH. But dime it in the monitors so they won’t know. Then cut them off early. Tell all your fans to wait outside until they are done.