Fender American Professional II Series

[Luigir]

I agree and we can't fool ourselves. However, depending on region and market, one thing is inflation, another thing is pisstake.

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I'm not gonna write down here how much £1,740 is in $, but here in London it's fairly rainy these days, I'm wondering if someone is pissing on our shoulders and tell us it's rain instead.

P.S. I still love my Fenders and "Fender" as an entity... It's more like complaining about your loved ones.

That's outrageous! In euros they are already pricey but in pounds the price is just ridicolous...

 

[EmaTheMirror]

That's outrageous! In euros they are already pricey but in pounds the price is just ridicolous...

I'll just write it down plain and simple, as I've already been steaming enough and it's probably not that clear for everyone, unless they deal with different currencies:

As of today, the FENDER AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL II PRECISION/JAZZ costs $2,263.45

Yes, that's "Google" correct. At least relatively correct.

I wish some Fender representative bumped into this thread and elaborated or clarified on that.

 

[Doug4321]

I'll just write it down plain and simple, as I've already been steaming enough and it's probably not that clear for everyone, unless they deal with different currencies:

As of today, the FENDER AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL II PRECISION/JAZZ costs $2,263.45

Yes, that's "Google" correct. At least relatively correct.

I wish some Fender representative bumped into this thread and elaborated or clarified on that.

Something to do with Brexit?

 

[Rnr..........4]

As a British American (you know..like our US founders) who has lived over there.. yeah it's expensive.. just like the German made Sandberg's are expensive here in the United States.

 

[EmaTheMirror]

Something to do with Brexit?

More than likely, but only to a certain extent.

On a side note: I've yet to meet someone involved in arts and not a celebrity or well-off enough that backed Brexit. And most of the celebs didn't anyway.

I won't go any further on the matter as I will probably break the forum's guidelines.

 

[FunkHead]

It makes no sense to compare price to American dollars. GB’s economy is a completely different thing. Prices of Fuel, cereal, cars, widgets etc... are all bases on the country they are sold in.
Why pick one other country to compare prices with. And why pick USA?
If you compared to Mexico, then what would that mean?

 

[Rnr..........4]

I'm really digging that Dark Night Precision bass. Might sway me away from getting a Jazz.

 

[RobertAuCoin]

Interesting: "4-Saddle HiMass™ Vintage (String-Through-Body or Top-Load)". Have string-through bridge setups been offered for other Fender basses? What about bridges that offer the option for top-load or string-through? Thanks in advance.

Here are links to images showing the string-through ports on the backsides of the P and the J:
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[RobertAuCoin]

I'm really digging that Dark Night Precision bass. Might sway me away from getting a Jazz.

I dig the Dark Night Jazz too! But I opted for the Precision, for now. I'll post photos when it gets here.

 

[Rnr..........4]

I dig the Dark Night Jazz too! But I opted for the Precision, for now. I'll post photos when it gets here.

Cool, let us know about the pickups too. If they sound any different.

Yes btw the previous American Professional Series and the American Standards all had string thru body designs.

 

[antfarm]

Interesting: "4-Saddle HiMass™ Vintage (String-Through-Body or Top-Load)". Have string-through bridge setups been offered for other Fender basses? What about bridges that offer the option for top-load or string-through? Thanks in advance.

Here are links to images showing the string-through ports on the backsides of the P and the J:
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It's the same string-through bridge that the old American Professional basses had: Invalid Link Removed

 

[EmaTheMirror]

As a British American who has lived over there.. yeah it's expensive.. just like the German made Sandberg's are expensive here in the United States.

Did you have any direct experience?

I checked for curiosity on Chicago Music Exchange, a rather well-known and respected vendor, also for their YouTube videos: randomly picking, a California II VS costs $1,495, Thomann DE shows one (same model, different finish) for Eur 1,279 and Thomann UK ships it for £1,148, that's around $1,495.

 

[EmaTheMirror]

It makes no sense to compare price to American dollars. GB’s economy is a completely different thing. Prices of Fuel, cereal, cars, widgets etc... are all bases on the country they are sold in.
Why pick one other country to compare prices with. And why pick USA?
If you compared to Mexico, then what would that mean?

Next time your guitarist will crave for a Marshall amp (new production line, mass produced) at something like £1500 -> $3000-ish we'll have a laugh, then... It's probably not gonna happen, I guess.

 

[Kro]

Interesting: "4-Saddle HiMass™ Vintage (String-Through-Body or Top-Load)". Have string-through bridge setups been offered for other Fender basses? What about bridges that offer the option for top-load or string-through? Thanks in advance.

Here are links to images showing the string-through ports on the backsides of the P and the J:
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It's the same bridge that they've been using on the American series for at least a decade.

It also so happens to be my favorite bridge.

 

[Ricky Rioli]

I agree and we can't fool ourselves. However, depending on region and market, one thing is inflation, another thing is pisstake.

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I'm not gonna write down here how much £1,740 is in $, but here in London it's fairly rainy these days, I'm wondering if someone is pissing on our shoulders and tell us it's rain instead.

P.S. I still love my Fenders and "Fender" as an entity... It's more like complaining about your loved ones.

If you buy a bass from the USA for $1550, you'll have pay about $175 to have it shipped, and then GB customs will charge 3% duty on both, and then 20% VAT on top of all that, which is $2132, or somewhere around £1650, which is the price at GuitarGuitar

 

[EmaTheMirror]

If you buy a bass from the USA for $1550, you'll have pay about $175 to have it shipped, and then GB customs will charge 3% duty on both, and then 20% VAT on top of all that, which is $2132, or somewhere around £1650, which is the price at GuitarGuitar

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Actually you're right re. taxes, I didn't take into account the fact that most of times they're not shown in the price tag in the US for domestic purchase - and probably that's the case here as well, making them more expensive than those $ shown.

OTOH, I just went to another rather well known and established brand, say Apple.
The Mac Pro tower starts from £5,499 in the UK shop
The Mac Pro tower starts from $5,999 in the US shop

This is why I compare the local store to a purchase made overseas, with customs and such, only up to a certain extent.
And IIRC the price difference didn't use to be such for Fender products. Please correct me from wrong.

 

[Plain Old Barry]

I agree and we can't fool ourselves. However, depending on region and market, one thing is inflation, another thing is pisstake.

View attachment 4017847

I'm not gonna write down here how much £1,740 is in $, but here in London it's fairly rainy these days, I'm wondering if someone is pissing on our shoulders and tell us it's rain instead.

P.S. I still love my Fenders and "Fender" as an entity... It's more like complaining about your loved ones.

It's worth pointing out that the $430 I paid for my '79 PBass new is about $1700 adjusted for inflation. I'll go out on a limb and point out that my '79 P also has the build quality of an average $900 MIM today.

 

[EmaTheMirror]

I've yet to understand why we're going so OT (my fault as well with the Apple comparison) to apparently defend this policy...

... BTW, I give up. I had my share of contacts (local and EU) getting my point. I guess I'll learn to agree to disagree with people on the other side of the (rather wide) pond.

End of my rant.

 

[Rnr..........4]

Guess this answers the V-Mod II pickup change...

 

[Ricky Rioli]

Guess this answers the V-Mod II pickup change...

This is most detail I've found written down so far. Which isn't saying much.