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Fender American Professional II Series

I'm digging the jazz in Dark Night with the maple fingerboard. My only issue is the pricing just to get that combo.

The only time I was in the market for a bass thats $1000 or more was when I bought my Matte Black Rickenbacker and that was only $200 more than what Fender wants for the Dark Night w/ maple combo.
 
I said in a previous thread that I needed 3 things to even consider these basses:

1) String retainer for the A-string.

2) ANY other type of tuners than those horrible ones with the tapered shafts that keep breaking strings during setups.

3) A pickup that sounds more like a classic P-bass and less like the original V-Mod.

I guess the jury is still out on 3) but it looks like I'm getting 0/3.

Even if they had fixed all these flaws I'm still not sure I would pay that much for a mass manufactured instrument with (based on AmPro I) inferior crafsmanship and abysmal QC compared to competing models like Yamaha MIJ BBs or Sandberg California VS/VT. Still, there's nothing that feels quite like a Fender (if you can find a good one). I would definitely have been interested if I didn't already own a number of Ps and Js.

I like the new finishes. The Dark Night finish looks very cool... but they kinda ruined the whole "dark" theme with the regular non-matching headstock. If it had a matching headstock I might have considered getting one and changed the tuners+pickup and installed an A-string retainer. But on seconds thoughs I could have gotten 3 Warmoths for that price!!!
 
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But... PINE? "Roasted" or not I don't care. Maybe I should mill down and glue up 2x4's from Home Depot.

It's worth saying that there's pine, and there's PINE... there are quite a few subspecies.

Fender is probably using high grade Southern Yellow Pine, cut and dried to select furniture grade standards.

SYP can be as hard and dense as ash. Many other woods used in solid body guitars, like alder and basswood, aren't exactly exotics.

What you see in Home Depot is not high grade material, not selectively milled, and it's not dried to anywhere near furniture grade standards. Most construction lumber is usually SPF, which stands for spruce / pine / fir and is mix of the various species milled for maximum yield from the tree. The trim aisle is usually white pine, far softer and lighter than SYP.

Personally, I'd like to try one of the pine basses and see how it sounds, as well as where the weight comes in.
 
Would really like to know if the Vmod II pickups are better or louder. I have a pro jazz V and do not like the original Vmod pickups, low output, and too wooly on the D and G and unfocused on the BEA strings.

Very interesting. I had the opposite experience, they were not wooly enough for me, too focused, and medium output. I think they were the cleanest sounding pickups I’ve used but maybe too much, to where they sounded sterile. I gigged the original V Mod for a year before swapping, so the tone was very usable in a mix, usually the engineer asked to take the tone knob down a bit. Regardless, let’s hope the next iteration is better!
 
i just don't see the need to buy a new fender. there are TONS of used options for less than this and at the end of the day the difference is minimal between different years of the same passive model....

A bit off topic, but this pretty much sums up my thoughts on any bass anymore. Fender and nearly all other bass manufacturers haven't really provided the market with any groundbreaking new features in a long time. I just can't justify buying a new bass when I can get an identical or near-identical one on the used market, in excellent condition, for a far lower price. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. :whistle:
 
Interesting: "4-Saddle HiMass™ Vintage (String-Through-Body or Top-Load)". Have string-through bridge setups been offered for other Fender basses? What about bridges that offer the option for top-load or string-through? Thanks in advance.

Here are links to images showing the string-through ports on the backsides of the P and the J:
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The American Series/Standard/Pro's have been string-thru since 1995. Plus the original '51. This particular bridge has been in use since 2008.
 
Yay Fender!

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