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Thanks again for that info. It didn't come with a leather booklet..unless the original owner kept that by accident. I will send an email off to Fender to request. It's nice to keep all the paperwork together. I will take a couple other pics in a few. Moment of silence for vets at the moment. Thanks to all those who we remember who fought for us, and for those who lost their lives for us. God bless those
Just commenting on how arm wear occurs on an older nitro finished bass. I know because I have a few. As long as the finish hasn't opened, wear proceeds more slowly.
I'm sorry if my comment was felt to be inappropriate, and apologize if I have caused any offense. That was not my intent.
My only intention was, as I stated, to comment on how arm wear occurs. IME, CS nitro finish basses will show arm contour wear eventually, if they are played as much as mine.
My apologies if my responses sounded otherwise. Not my intent. I was not sure why you were bringing it up, as it had nothing to do, IMO, to the point I was trying to make. I was just trying to figure out what the idea was behind your question. I know that in time, these nitro finishes will eventually end up with forearm wear if played long and hard enough, but it does not address why there is forearm wear on a Lush Closet Classic finish, which in every example does not have one.I know this is a FCS thread, but... sweet-ass Wal. Between Moulding and Karn, those have always seriously given me the horn.
The idea of the Pro series extends to the Time Machine line, as well. Even the CS Design Guide states it: "Select a Custom Shop Base Model". That's the whole essence of Fender CS, in my humble opinion. One can have a stock 1962 Jazz, or a 1962 Jazz with binding, lollipop tuners, ebony fingerboard and 7.25" to 12" radius. Even though the latter would not fit the 1962 year tag based on specs, it can be seen as a "custom" 1962. That's how I see it anyway.
The idea of the Pro series extends to the Time Machine line, as well. Even the CS Design Guide states it: "Select a Custom Shop Base Model". That's the whole essence of Fender CS, in my humble opinion. One can have a stock 1962 Jazz, or a 1962 Jazz with binding, lollipop tuners, ebony fingerboard and 7.25" to 12" radius. Even though the latter would not fit the 1962 year tag based on specs, it can be seen as a "custom" 1962. That's how I see it anyway.
I started worrying that the original owner lightly sanded the forearm area ....cuz it has some scratch areas below it (on the black) BUT I just put it under my magnifying glass and light..and the bare wood has actually been clear coated as well. So..I will assume it was all done right from the CS factory. Regardless I just finished playing it and it is SO soooo sweet...i would almost say I like it a bit more than my 1970... the jazz width neck a welcoming treat at times.No offense at all.
The point I was trying to make with graphics1988's bass was in regards to it's finish inconstancy with other Post Modern Relic basses with Lush Closet Classic finishes. I have not seen another Post Modern Lush Closet Classic finish with forearm wear. Again, nothing wrong with forearm wear. My comment has to do with the inconsistency with other Post Modern relic finishes and Fender's products in general. If there is another Lush Closet Classic finish out there with forearm wear, it would be great to see a photo, because I have yet to see one. That doesn't mean another doesn't exist, but it would be only the second one I know of, and I have seen about every post modern bass on the internet.
So, about inconsistency in product line. I have seen FCS 59 RI's with 70's style logos, 59's with black anodized guards and 2TSB finishes that would not have been on a 59, grounding strips on AVRI 64 jazz basses while the Custom Shop 64's do not, 62 jazz basses with block inlays, among other things. There is in general a loose interpretation of models across the board with Fender products, IMO.
As far as the Fender Custom Shop relic models go, the Time Machine Series was an attempt to make an authentic and consistent product line that was intended to be a replica of the years model using the same tooling as the basses made from said era. Prior to the Time Machine series, the FCS was not so consistent with the CS instruments. However, recently there have been more loose interpretations of their product lines. This is not a good or bad thing, just that you can't describe one of their products without being wrong. Case in point graphics1988's bass with the forearm wear, or finding a Fender AVRI 63 Precision with a factory jazz neck which is supposed to be a spot on exact replica of a 63 P bass.
Now, the Pro series line according to Mike Eldred, meant that it was a prototype. It was intended to be a base from which anything could happen. There could be a maple blocked and bound neck with a Inca Silver finish, etc. The model was just supposed to be a base from which a dealer or customer could pick and choose what they wanted on that base model. This idea seems to have migrated beyond the Pro series, and can be seen in other models.
I started worrying that the original owner lightly sanded the forearm area ....cuz it has some scratch areas below it (on the black) BUT I just put it under my magnifying glass and light..and the bare wood has actually been clear coated as well. So..I will assume it was all done right from the CS factory. Regardless I just finished playing it and it is SO soooo sweet...i would almost say I like it a bit more than my 1970... the jazz width neck a welcoming treat at times.
No, I definitely don't think that ordinary changes like the ones you mention will get you into Masterbuilt territory. The non-contour, double-bound Jazz you mentioned is an example of that; if you want to be sure what can be done Teambuilt-wise, the safe road is always to ask.It may be the case now, but if I’m not mistaken, once you wanted to change a bridge design, standard model colors, tuners, pickups or neck, you were getting into a Master Built bass. You could do it, but it was going to be at a Masterbuilt price.
On a side note, it appears that FCS dealers have something different going with the Custom Shop then what is available to customers. I’m seeing dealers with hybrids that take a 64 jazz bass base, combined with a slab body with binding similar to a Custom telecaster, yet is not called a Masterbuilt bass. It appears this level of customization is only available to dealers at non Masterbuilt prices.
Anyway, regardless of whatever direction Fender CS is going now, I’m still a huge fan of their products and if it becomes difficult explaining why a Lush Closet Classic has a clean pick guard and forearm wear, it will be a small price to pay in light of the wonderful basses we all get to play and enjoy.
