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fender jazz vs fender precession

I be lovin' me some P-Basses and some Jazz Basses and some Jaguar basses and some mustang basses and some P/J basses and some Deluxe 5 string basses and...

The Jazz has more tonal options available. If you need versatility, buy the Jazz. If you want one really good solid tone, get the P. Just my opinion. :)
 
actually i have myself a bass called a "P-bass Lyte" it basically is a combination of the two basses, it has the split pickup near the neck and a jazz pickup in the back. though in electronics and body... its like neither(the body is much smaller and lighter, the electronics have EMG pickups and have active controls)

i must say i am quite happy with it. they dont make my bass anymore but i think there are some p-bass deluxes with the same qualities. but i agree with these guys that say just to play it and see what you like. i personally like the feel of the p-basses better
 
Jazz is easier to spell/lookup? :hiding:

But seriously, they sound and look about the same to the causal observer. The Jazz body is a bit bigger, and it has two pickups. The precision has one pickup. P-basses are known for a nice low mid-range thump which the Jazz can't quite get. A Jazz has more knobs and chrome and costs a bit more.

You can use either for any music where an electric bass is called for. I suggest you go play them both at a music store. :cool:
 
Man...that Jamiroquai is off the chain! I've never really listened to him. Good stuff!

Anyway, here's what the man, Ed Friedland, had to say on the issue.
Ed Friedland on the subject:
To my way of thinking, the difference between a P and J bass goes way beyond the physical. Yes, P bass - fatter neck (usually), split pickup, chunkier tone, less highs. J bass - slimmer neck, easier to play, dual pickups, more note definition, more high frequency.

But... I think P or J bass is a lifestyle choice as well. Committing to the P means taking on a set of preferences, and inherent parameters. You can't or at least shouldn't try to play a P bass like a Jazz. That would be missing the point. The P bass is a fat, chunky-butt animal that likes to take up space. It demands a high level of attention to what you play, because every note hurts - or helps. There ain't no takin' it back with a P bass. You better mean it, or be very good at making it work. You can play fast on a P, but it's not nimble like a Jackrabbit, more like a Grizzly doing 60mph to catch something to eat. Slap on a P? Sure, it's chunkfunk, think Boz Scaggs "Lowdown". The pop on a P is not as sharp as a J. It's like getting sliced with a serrated steak knife. Ouch! Use only when you gots to cut through some tough meat. Classic P guys... Jamerson, Rainey, Rocco, Bob Glaub.

The J is a sleeker machine. Being a Jazz guy means having a little more wiggle room. It takes up less space in the mix, so you can get more active without squashing people. With great power comes great responsibility. Just because you CAN move around, does that mean you should? And if so - how to, how much, and why? The J is a bit skinnier, so you have to learn how to use that texture to fill it up, and how to play it fat when it needs to be fat. Soloing? Sure. Slap? You bet. Passive it cuts like a well honed Buck knife. Active with a good pre amp, more like a barbers razor. Classic J guys... Jerry Jemmot, Larry Graham, Jaco, Marcus...

Some people make a choice early on and stick with it. Their entire style is built around that early decision, whether it was conscious or not. You may know some of these people. Players that would no sooner pick up the other axe than they would deliberately eat rotten food. There's honor in this I think, it certainly makes your life simpler when it's Friday night and you're trying to decide which bass to put in the bag.

I think it behooves (love that word) a professional bassist to have both and spend time cultivating the characteristics of each instrument. You need to make each one speak it's native language. There are some gigs that just naturally call for one or another. Not to say you couldn't switch around. You learn alot about the nature of the P and J when you try to make one do what the other does naturally.

Personally, I'm more fascinated with the P because I've always been a J guy by first nature. The J thing is in my DNA, but the P has gotten into my blood. I love chunkin out some fat ass P bass. It feels like I'm on vacation. The J still feels like home even though I've spent years getting used to the 5 string. I am definitely a confirmed 24 fret guy now. I always wished Fender would come out with a killer 24 fret J bass. I know.. the Urge bass.... Like I said.....

On most of my gigs these days, there is the expectation that I'm going to solo. If I wasn't so damned attached to what happens between frets 21 and 24, I'd bring a J, but.... Luckily I've found something with 24 that does it for me. But I still miss the opportunity to play my Fenders. I actually go out of my way to cultivate Fender gigs. No solos please!
 
Most of my bass heroes who played Fender used Precisions (Steve Harris, Bob Daisley, Mark Hoppus, etc.), although Geddy used Jazzes...

For me, the woody 'clank' of the Precision wins, and I like the aesthetics of the scratchplate curve, over the Jazz's chrome knob plate.

After all that, as a compromise of sorts, I bought an American Precision Deluxe, which has P-bass pickups and a humbucker bridge pickup...

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I own both. I'm definitely in the P-Bass camp. IMO the Jazz sounds more refined. It may be a little more versatile. It might have a better solo tone....I'm not sure, though.

For me, my style, and the styles of music that I prefer, the P-Bass is the better choice, of course YMMV.

For me, the P-Bass' "bark" works better live. If I had only one bass to choose from, it would be a P-Bass.

My 2 cents
 
My personal experience has led me to prefer a Jazz bass over a P-Bass. In fact, I have honestly NEVER played a P that I've liked. This being said, I have only been playing for a few years, and so I haven't had many opportunities to play a P outisde guitar center, which leads me to believe that I havent really given the P a decent chance.

Listening to recordings of P-basses leads me to believe that I would absolutely love playing a P were it well setup and I had more time to get a feel for the controls to work out a tone I like. In fact, when I play my jazz bass, the tone I favor is very reminiscent of the P-bass tone I've liked in recordings.

Then again, with a combination of the bass's controls, the amp's controls, and right hand position, I've managed to get a P-esque tone on a J, while I can still get a more broad variety of tones as a whole than I could get on a P, leading me to believe I should stick with the J (since even though I've gone with the P tone lately, I like the other tones it can get aswell).

Anyway, long story short, I love J's, and I think that if I were able to spend some time with a P I would learn to love it just as much.
 
Man...that Jamiroquai is off the chain! I've never really listened to him. Good stuff!

Anyway, here's what the man, Ed Friedland, had to say on the issue.
Ed Friedland on the subject:
To my way of thinking, the difference between a P and J bass goes way beyond the physical. Yes, P bass - fatter neck (usually), split pickup, chunkier tone, less highs. J bass - slimmer neck, easier to play, dual pickups, more note definition, more high frequency.

But... I think P or J bass is a lifestyle choice as well. Committing to the P means taking on a set of preferences, and inherent parameters. You can't or at least shouldn't try to play a P bass like a Jazz. That would be missing the point. The P bass is a fat, chunky-butt animal that likes to take up space. It demands a high level of attention to what you play, because every note hurts - or helps. There ain't no takin' it back with a P bass. You better mean it, or be very good at making it work. You can play fast on a P, but it's not nimble like a Jackrabbit, more like a Grizzly doing 60mph to catch something to eat. Slap on a P? Sure, it's chunkfunk, think Boz Scaggs "Lowdown". The pop on a P is not as sharp as a J. It's like getting sliced with a serrated steak knife. Ouch! Use only when you gots to cut through some tough meat. Classic P guys... Jamerson, Rainey, Rocco, Bob Glaub.

The J is a sleeker machine. Being a Jazz guy means having a little more wiggle room. It takes up less space in the mix, so you can get more active without squashing people. With great power comes great responsibility. Just because you CAN move around, does that mean you should? And if so - how to, how much, and why? The J is a bit skinnier, so you have to learn how to use that texture to fill it up, and how to play it fat when it needs to be fat. Soloing? Sure. Slap? You bet. Passive it cuts like a well honed Buck knife. Active with a good pre amp, more like a barbers razor. Classic J guys... Jerry Jemmot, Larry Graham, Jaco, Marcus...

Some people make a choice early on and stick with it. Their entire style is built around that early decision, whether it was conscious or not. You may know some of these people. Players that would no sooner pick up the other axe than they would deliberately eat rotten food. There's honor in this I think, it certainly makes your life simpler when it's Friday night and you're trying to decide which bass to put in the bag.

I think it behooves (love that word) a professional bassist to have both and spend time cultivating the characteristics of each instrument. You need to make each one speak it's native language. There are some gigs that just naturally call for one or another. Not to say you couldn't switch around. You learn alot about the nature of the P and J when you try to make one do what the other does naturally.

Personally, I'm more fascinated with the P because I've always been a J guy by first nature. The J thing is in my DNA, but the P has gotten into my blood. I love chunkin out some fat ass P bass. It feels like I'm on vacation. The J still feels like home even though I've spent years getting used to the 5 string. I am definitely a confirmed 24 fret guy now. I always wished Fender would come out with a killer 24 fret J bass. I know.. the Urge bass.... Like I said.....

On most of my gigs these days, there is the expectation that I'm going to solo. If I wasn't so damned attached to what happens between frets 21 and 24, I'd bring a J, but.... Luckily I've found something with 24 that does it for me. But I still miss the opportunity to play my Fenders. I actually go out of my way to cultivate Fender gigs. No solos please!

Great post.

I hear you, and agree while at the same time question. Man....most people aren't bass players. They either like the music and/or the look of the band they're watching or not.

Many [most?] musicians can't even tell much of the difference [P v. J] if we compensate one way or another with technique and/or gear.

In many styles of music, we are the most ignored musician on stage. Sometimes it's like we aren't even there. This is why "we" [as a "group"] tend to get anal and overthink things sometimes.

But to approach the OP's concern, a Jazz with a series/parallel switch may be the ticket. J pups, when in series and w/some EQ, can sound almost P like. :hiding:
 
Ed Friedland on the subject:
To my way of thinking, the difference between a P and J bass goes way beyond the physical. Yes, P bass - fatter neck (usually), split pickup, chunkier tone, less highs. J bass - slimmer neck, easier to play, dual pickups, more note definition, more high frequency.

But... I think P or J bass is a lifestyle choice as well. Committing to the P means taking on a set of preferences, and inherent parameters. You can't or at least shouldn't try to play a P bass like a Jazz. That would be missing the point. The P bass is a fat, chunky-butt animal that likes to take up space. It demands a high level of attention to what you play, because every note hurts - or helps. There ain't no takin' it back with a P bass. You better mean it, or be very good at making it work. You can play fast on a P, but it's not nimble like a Jackrabbit, more like a Grizzly doing 60mph to catch something to eat. Slap on a P? Sure, it's chunkfunk, think Boz Scaggs "Lowdown". The pop on a P is not as sharp as a J. It's like getting sliced with a serrated steak knife. Ouch! Use only when you gots to cut through some tough meat. Classic P guys... Jamerson, Rainey, Rocco, Bob Glaub.

The J is a sleeker machine. Being a Jazz guy means having a little more wiggle room. It takes up less space in the mix, so you can get more active without squashing people. With great power comes great responsibility. Just because you CAN move around, does that mean you should? And if so - how to, how much, and why? The J is a bit skinnier, so you have to learn how to use that texture to fill it up, and how to play it fat when it needs to be fat. Soloing? Sure. Slap? You bet. Passive it cuts like a well honed Buck knife. Active with a good pre amp, more like a barbers razor. Classic J guys... Jerry Jemmot, Larry Graham, Jaco, Marcus...

Some people make a choice early on and stick with it. Their entire style is built around that early decision, whether it was conscious or not. You may know some of these people. Players that would no sooner pick up the other axe than they would deliberately eat rotten food. There's honor in this I think, it certainly makes your life simpler when it's Friday night and you're trying to decide which bass to put in the bag.

I think it behooves (love that word) a professional bassist to have both and spend time cultivating the characteristics of each instrument. You need to make each one speak it's native language. There are some gigs that just naturally call for one or another. Not to say you couldn't switch around. You learn alot about the nature of the P and J when you try to make one do what the other does naturally.

Personally, I'm more fascinated with the P because I've always been a J guy by first nature. The J thing is in my DNA, but the P has gotten into my blood. I love chunkin out some fat ass P bass. It feels like I'm on vacation.

Couldn't have said it better myself! :)
 
I started playing bass in 1974. I started on P basses because frankly, they were less expensive than J's and that's what I could afford. Now that I am at a point in life where I can pretty much afford any bass I choose, I have gravitated toward J basses. This is mostly for two reasons:

1. I can hear myself in the band mix with a J. P's to my ears easily get lost in the mix.

2. I need the thinner neck to play the more sophisticated bass lines that I'm asked to play now.

I am nostalgically connected to P's as they were my first but currently don't have one in my stable.

Just my experience.
 
I don't really think either of them is better than the other, I've found that you can use either sound for different styles of music. Up to this point I've only owned P/J's with the exception of my P-bass Squier, which I never really liked the sound of and have now ripped the frets out of.

I think it depends on what you're playing, but even so I think you could get away with using either of them for any style of music.
 
Ed Friedland's piece is interesting, but I think it's relevant primarily for those who play multiple genres and use several techniques (finger, pick, slap, etc.). I play rock exclusively, in a range from mellower "indie" stuff to some punk and old school metal. It's fingerstyle 95% of the time.

In this context, while I certainly notice the differences between Jazz and Precision, I don't alter my playing to account for them. These basses work equally well most of the time, and I use them almost interchangably. Sure, the highs sing more on the Jazz, and the Precision fills up a power trio mix a little better, but does that mean I stay below the 12th fret on the P or completely ignore the J for heavy stuff? Of course not. Frankly, I sometimes think the differences between the two are overblown.

That said, I do think the Jazz is slightly more versatile, so for many players it's the better place to start. But it doesn't matter, because eventually you'll have both. (And if you stay on TB long enough, you'll end up with several samples of each. :D)
 

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